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Who thinks man made global warming is fake, speak up

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posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 04:46 PM
Man-Made Global Warming is fake. For anyone who follows the news, that statement is ludicrous, absurd, ridiculous, and dumb. 

However, what is truly stupid is the news reporting something completely phony as fact. The news and Al Gore spit out junk science as if they were passing candy out at Halloween, yet none of their alleged science can tell you how man is killing the planet.  

They tell you that methane from a cow’s anus depletes the ozone layer but they can’t explain why.  They talk as if they were the counselor from South Park; “Burning coal is bad mmkay”.  How is it bad?

The media needs to explain this, but there’s the exact point; they can’t because it’s all made up. Man does not have the capability to destroy the planet, yet we throw away trillions trying to correct the damage we think we've done.

To make a long story short I want to know if you think man made global warming is real or fake and be ready to explain why you think that way.

If Al Gores bull crap was true we would all be dead by now, but we ain't. 

Who thinks man made global warming is real and who thinks is fake?

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posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 04:50 PM
Man made global warming is fake for sure, no doubt about it. It is all a ploy to tax the crap out of people, and gain more control over their lives, making them even more of a slave to the system.

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 04:50 PM
It's not man made, its the Sun! Some scientists and astronomers are saying that all the planets in our solar system are heating up.

Another opinion i heard recently is that sulphur dioxide is causing the cooling effect that all of us in Europe have been experiencing.

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posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:02 PM
Lord Monckton FTW

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:05 PM
The Earth goes through seasons. I saw it on history channel, they took core samples in Egypt and showed when there was more moisture or dryness.

Man made global warming is a total farce and I am kind of upset Al Gore made alot of money that he doesn't deserve...

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:05 PM
Fake, Common sense and Occum's razor.

For more info look here-The Church of Climatology

I could provide more, but that thread EXPLAINS it all.

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:06 PM
reply to post by SuperSlovak

Here is the truth.

It is natural for the Earth to have an ice age every 10,000 years.

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:06 PM
BIGGEST SCAM IN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:07 PM
God yeah. I posted this on another thread but thought it again relevant here.

Sorry I dont have the original link as this was sent to me via email.

Truth about coal powered power genration
This article appeared in the Rockhampton morning Bulletin on 22.12.09.
This is an excellent piece for my friends to send to their politicians or to anybody who needs
to be educated about Australia's Coal driven power houses. Terry is now retired and is in
excellent health at age 69. Nobody paid him to write the article which was, (to their credit),
published by the local press.
Written By Terence Cardwell
The Editor
The Morning Bulletin.
I have sat by for a number of years frustrated at the rubbish being put forth about carbon
dioxide emissions, thermal coal fired power stations and renewable energy and the ridiculous
Emissions Trading Scheme.
Frustration at the lies told (particularly during the election) about global pollution. Using
Power Station cooling towers for an example. The condensation coming from those cooling
towers is as pure as that that comes out of any kettle.
Frustration about the so called incorrectly named man made 'carbon emissions' which of
course is Carbon Dioxide emissions and what it is supposedly doing to our planet.
Frustration about the lies told about renewable energy and the deliberate distortion of
renewable energy and its ability to replace fossil fuel energy generation. And frustration at
the ridiculous carbon credit programme which is beyond comprehension.
And further frustration at some members of the public who have not got a clue about thermal
Power Stations or Renewable Energy. Quoting ridiculous figures about something they
clearly have little or no knowledge of.
First coal fired power stations do NOT send 60 to 70% of the energy up the chimney. The
boilers of modern power station are 96% efficient and the exhaust heat is captured by the
economisers and reheaters and heat the air and water before entering the boilers.
The very slight amount exiting the stack is moist as in condensation and CO2. There is
virtually no fly ash because this is removed by the precipitators or bagging plant that are
99.98% efficient. The 4% lost is heat through boiler wall convection.
Coal fired Power Stations are highly efficient with very little heat loss and can generate
massive amount of energy for our needs. They can generate power at efficiency of less than
10,000 b.t.u. per kilowatt and cost wise that is very low.
The percentage cost of mining and freight is very low. The total cost of fuel is 8% of total
generation cost and does NOT constitute a major production cost.
As for being laughed out of the country, China is building multitudes of coal fired power
stations because they are the most efficient for bulk power generation.
We have, like, the USA, coal fired power stations because we HAVE the raw materials and are
VERY fortunate to have them. Believe me no one is laughing at Australia - exactly the
reverse, they are very envious of our raw materials and independence.
The major percentage of power in Europe and U.K. is nuclear because they don't have the
coal supply for the future.
Yes it would be very nice to have clean, quiet, cheap energy in bulk supply. Everyone agrees
that it would be ideal. You don't have to be a genius to work that out. But there is only one
problem---It doesn't exist.
Yes - there are wind and solar generators being built all over the world but they only add a
small amount to the overall power demand.
The maximum size wind generator is 3 Megawatts, which can rarely be attained on a
continuous basis because it requires substantial forces of wind. And for the same reason only
generate when there is sufficient wind to drive them. This of course depends where they are
located but usually they only run for 45% -65% of the time, mostly well below maximum
capacity. They cannot be relied for a 'base load' because they are too variable. And they
certainly could not be used for load control.
The peak load demand for electricity in Australia is approximately 50,000 Megawatts and
only small part of this comes from the Snowy Hydro Electric System (The ultimate power
Generation) because it is only available when water is there from snow melt or rain. And yes
they can pump it back but it cost to do that. (Long Story).
Tasmania is very fortunate in that they have mostly hydro electric generation because of their
high amounts of snow and rainfall. They also have wind generators (located in the roaring
forties) but that is only a small amount of total power generated.
Based on an average generating output of 1.5 megawatts (of unreliable power) you would
require over 33,300 wind generators.
As for solar power generation much research has been done over the decades and there are
two types. Solar thermal generation and Solar Electric generation but in each case they
cannot generate large amounts of electricity.
Any clean, cheap energy is obviously welcomed but they would NEVER have the capability of
replacing Thermal power generation. So get your heads out of the clouds, do some basic
mathematics and look at the facts not going off with the fairies (or some would say the
extreme greenies.)
We are all greenies in one form or another and care very much about our planet. The
difference is most of us are realistic. Not in some idyllic utopia where everything can be made
perfect by standing around holding a banner and being a general pain in the backside.
Here are some facts that will show how ridiculous this financial madness the government is
following. Do the simple maths and see for yourselves.
According to the 'believers' the CO2 in air has risen from .034% to .038% in air over the last
50 years.
To put the percentage of Carbon Dioxide in air in a clearer perspective;
If you had a room 12 ft x 12 ft x 7 ft or 3.7 mtrs x 3.7 mtrs x 2.1 mtrs, the area carbon
dioxide would occupy in that room would be .25m x .25m x .17m or the size of a large
packet of cereal.
Australia emits 1 percent of the world's total carbon Dioxide and the government wants to
reduce this by twenty percent or reduce emissions by .2 percent of the world's total CO2
What effect will this have on existing CO2 levels?
By their own figures they state the CO2 in air has risen from .034% to .038% in 50 years.
Assuming this is correct, the world CO2 has increased in 50 years by .004 percent.
Per year that is .004 divided by 50 = .00008 percent. (Getting confusing -but stay with me).
Of that because we only contribute 1% our emissions would cause CO2 to rise .00008 divided
by 100 = .0000008 percent.
Of that 1%, we supposedly emit, the governments wants to reduce it by 20% which is 1/5th
of .0000008 = .00000016 percent effect per year they would have on the world CO2
emissions based on their own figures.
That would equate to a area in the same room, as the size of a small pin.!!!
For that they have gone crazy with the ridiculous trading schemes, Solar and roofing
installations, Clean coal technology. Renewable energy, etc, etc.
How ridiculous it that.
The cost to the general public and industry will be enormous. Cripple and even closing some
smaller business.
T.L. Cardwell
To the Editor I thought I should clarify. I spent 25 years in the Electricity Commission of
NSW working, commissioning and operating the various power units. My last was the 4 X 350
MW Munmorah Power Station near Newcastle. I would be pleased to supply you any
information you may require.
1,204 Words.

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:08 PM
Well look at the current weather, its freezing. Seems like the entire United States is at below average temperatures. Coinicidince or not.

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:08 PM
Double post

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posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:19 PM
hello to 'the_seeker', great post, I'd really like to be able to pass it on to some of the deniers I know, is that possible?
highest regards.

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:21 PM
As far as I know, mankind has not been able to figure out how to create or destroy matter. So, that means all the "fossil fuel" we are burning already existed in nature. We did not make it. We are just moving it around!

If our scientists are correct, all the Carbon in our Fossil Fuels, came from living things, so all that Carbon was already in existence on the Earth.

All of our Radioactive Isotopes are recovered from nature, so we are not adding any radioactivity to the equation.

All the Cows and their farts are surely offset by all the wild animals we have destroyed and taken their environments.

All in all, Earth is almost a net-zero equation. We do absorb a slight amount of mass and material from meteors, but we also launch stuff into space, so that probably equals out as well.

IMHO, we will never be able to outdo Mother Nature. We will only be capable of doing as much or as little as nature allows!!

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:31 PM
reply to post by pikestaff

If you U2U me I can send you the PDF on email whilst I hunt around for the original link.
This is the link to a later article on people that are supporting him.

Still hunting around in the above link for his original article..

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:39 PM
Of course its FAKE. They can tax the arse out of us both directly and by stealth and there's nothing we can do ! We all know who will profit from this ! It's theft by any other name ! FAKE !

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posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 05:46 PM

Originally posted by kingoftheworld
Man made global warming is fake for sure, no doubt about it. It is all a ploy to tax the crap out of people, and gain more control over their lives, making them even more of a slave to the system.

if global warming exists, its not man made ... thats a fact

they want to kill and control, these bastards ... lol

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 06:10 PM
I no longer know where to stand in this issue. Excessive carbon dioxide increases the greenhouse effect. This means that excessive heat is reflected back to earth. Deforestation, along with ecological collapse is really taking a toll on the natural ability for our planet to adapt.
Its all a cycle.. The burning of fossil fuels at this rate is wrecking the natural balance in atmospheric composition of gases. We can deny that the petroleum industries are harming the environment and they will continue plundering the earth and damaging it in the process.
Don't you understand? If you believe Global Warming is a farce, you're just supporting the big oil industry. That's why all the news channels have recently been focusing on denying it in the first place. The gas prices will continue rising and rising and rising until we'll slaughter each other to get from point A to point B.
The average world temperatures have been on a steady rise, some say that it is a natural cycle.. Then again, if you speak to an environmental scientist or take a course in it, you will realize that it's very real. There are those who commit their lives to studying these things.. There is more than enough evidence that can substantiate the fact that we have been downplaying the effects of reckless dick-first industrialization.
Whether you believe global warming is real or a complete conspiratorial fabrication, we're all #ed either way. The key is divide and conquer.. Democrat-republican global warming-no global warming. We'll continue to be systematically fragmented to keep us distracted from the big picture. Maybe global warming is neither real nor fake, maybe its a product of atmospheric alteration through radio frequency power by HAARP. There is substantiation for any side you wish to take.. Whatever makes you feel safe within the margins of your perception of reality.

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 06:12 PM
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I keep posting this in the hope that somebody may read it. It is important research and should be taken seriously

A recent study by M. Mouse & D. Duck

From the university of Disney California

The study presented by Prof, M. Mouse & Dr D. Duck Proposes that global temperatures will continue to rise when the man with the big pencil, puts little spikes and swirly marks around the circle which is situated above the line that runs halfway across the paper. During these conditions there is a tendency for it to get hotter and even hotter when he colors it with yellow.

Studies also suggest that when he draws icicles, it will get colder, much colder.

The conclusion from these studies provides evidence to suggest that when "the man" with the pencil wants us to believe it is getting hotter (or colder) he will create the illusion that most appropriately fits the storyline.

This study is waiting to be peer reviewed.

In answer to your question. It is FAKE!!!!!

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 08:18 PM

Created so Gore and his associates could make a load of money on their stupid carbon credit trading scam.

The whole gang belongs in jail.

posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 09:12 PM



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