Airport Body Scanners Can Store And Print Images!!

"I don't think the TSA has been forthcoming with the American public about the true capability of these devices," EPIC's Rotenberg said. "They've done a bunch of very slick promotions where they show people -- including journalists -- going through the devices. And then they reassure people, based on the images that have been produced, that there's not any privacy concerns. "But if you look at the actual technical specifications and you read the vendor contracts, you come to understand that these machines are capable of doing far more than the TSA has let on," he said.


www.cnn.com...


Well I really didnt think about this, the ability to save and distribute the images they render. Surely if combined with your name and possibly passport number an airport profile of sorts could be created, allowing more monitoring of our activities.

There is certainly more to these scanners than meets the eye, and it will come out eventually.


[edit on 11-1-2010 by la2]

wow that just makes way for a whole new way for pevs to get stuff. i dont like the idea of them keeping my pic and putting it on the web, wow i would hate to explain to my parents how that got on there. they wouldnt believe me till it happened to them.

read the whole article and you will find it is not all together true. They are not even hooked to a network and have no internal storage.

The artical says that the potential is there, they have not been designed with the specific of NOT being able to print and save, and that the functions can be activated, that is the worry.

If these scanners are networked then thats a very worrying development, and surely the basis of the machine alone means that some temporary storage has to be usable, otherwise how would an image be available for further scrutiny before aleereting officials.

reply to post by la2


Some of those TSA workers are going to have very sticky fingers. I can almost picture them now in some back room, moaning and groaning and touching themselves.

Its a pretty shocking thought to be honest, its not only a vile invasion of privacy, but now it seems that we are really being mislead about the whole thing.

Another thing that comes to mind is a sketchy TSA employee hooking up a hard drive to the scanner system and storing all the images. He then goes home, inverts the images and voila instant data base of naked images.

[edit on 11-1-2010 by Gargamel]

I have to point out that it would have to be a conspiracy to network and store any images from one of these machines. I think that there would be at least ONE other TSA worker there who would have to allow it to happen.
If I worked there and I noticed a few extra cords and/or a flash drive sticking out of it the machine, I would inform a superior. If I didn't, I would be just as guilty as the uploader. Now, what are the chances of some perv getting away with trying to alter the delivered machines without his co-workers knowing about it.
Do any of you know the process to hook up a drive to capture images off this machine? Do any of you know who's working behind the monitor and if they are or aren't a perv of some clinical sort?

I don't, but, I can believe there are checks and balances to keep it from being a problem.

Getting cancer from it, on the other hand.....

Cuhail

Originally posted by Cuhail

I have to point out that it would have to be a conspiracy to network and store any images from one of these machines. I think that there would be at least ONE other TSA worker there who would have to allow it to happen.
If I worked there and I noticed a few extra cords and/or a flash drive sticking out of it the machine, I would inform a superior. If I didn't, I would be just as guilty as the uploader. Now, what are the chances of some perv getting away with trying to alter the delivered machines without his co-workers knowing about it.
Do any of you know the process to hook up a drive to capture images off this machine? Do any of you know who's working behind the monitor and if they are or aren't a perv of some clinical sort?

You're assuming it would be done illegally.

Before long it will be customary to hook this up to a computer to enhance and store the images. Storing would be useful as you could compare a person's image to previous images of them if you were suspicious.

Flash drives are pretty small now. It would be easy to use one without being seen if you were into blue, 2D body shapes.

reply to post by Kailassa


I have a couple of points about your post.

You're assuming it would be done illegally.

Isn't this whole topic based on assumptions?

Before long it will be customary to hook this up to a computer to enhance and store the images. Storing would be useful as you could compare a person's image to previous images of them if you were suspicious.

It will be? Isn't this an assumation itself? You know this? This method or Standard Operating Procedure is, for sure, on it's way?

Flash drives are pretty small now. It would be easy to use one without being seen if you were into blue, 2D body shapes.

Is there a USB port on these things? I could see a COM port or two, but, that's just me assuming.

I understand the path we tend to trod upon here at ATS, but, you can assume that all this has already happened all ya want. Won't make it true until proof of abuse arrives.

Just saying.
Cuhail

Originally posted by Cuhail
reply to post by Kailassa

 

I have a couple of points about your post.

You're assuming it would be done illegally.

Isn't this whole topic based on assumptions?

I'm just pointing out that there is a greater likelihood of this being a problem because it could also happen legally.

Before long it will be customary to hook this up to a computer to enhance and store the images. Storing would be useful as you could compare a person's image to previous images of them if you were suspicious.

It will be? Isn't this an assumation itself? You know this? This method or Standard Operating Procedure is, for sure, on it's way?

Yes, it's pure speculation, - based on what I believe to be likely. Technology evolves. Computer linkage would be the simplest way for this technology to evolve.

Flash drives are pretty small now. It would be easy to use one without being seen if you were into blue, 2D body shapes.

Is there a USB port on these things? I could see a COM port or two, but, that's just me assuming.

I don't see why there should be. I was talking about the flash drives present on computers.

I understand the path we tend to trod upon here at ATS, but, you can assume that all this has already happened all ya want. Won't make it true until proof of abuse arrives.

Is that a good reason to not stop and consider what harm an innovation may lead to?

Well, obviously they have the ability to save images!
How else are they going to produce evidence,in court,of any would be hijackers method of smuggling weapons etc.

You could say this with just about any equipment that is electronic and used in service industries.

Cable boxes can do far more then they are enabled to do, it makes the future ready. You are more likely to have some pervert taking pictures at a swimming pool or the beach then anyone at TSA keeping these pictures.

Unfortunately there was a hoax that many believe to be true about how these pictures look and you just invent for soft core porn. Those were fakes and actually just real pictures of a naked lady ( go figure people thought they looked like a real naked lady).

You are at more risk for having personal information abused when you go shopping or get your mail then anything TSA could do.

The argument that people should be making is how effective these are and not the dirty pictures that can be taken.

i recently stumbled on the CNN article, due to a posting in a video-community and would like to introduce the idea about why this ability to save, store and transmit images has been implemented.

the technology of these scanners is very similar to what you know from your last x-ray at your local hospital.

in case of a nationwide catastrophy where there are possibly millions of lifes endangered. this nation (as many other nations too) have plans in the drawer.
plans, that are fabricated to ensure to keep the nation capable of regaining itself to the state we now know it.
back to normality, if you will so.
These plans are kept secret, because they include scnerarios you might never heard of, and will never hear about, unless you are part of a group who is involved in the development of such plans or (worst case) you are a victim of such an event.
under no circumstances these plans include something like a new world order, or so, its just a plan to give the capability to survive as a nation in general, and not fall back into the stoneage, where the ancient people voted with a club on someone else head.

To be able to survive it requires shelter for the public, in positions which are easy to access, large enough and strong enough to withstand a specifc measure of force from the outside.
An airport is a perfect place for such a need.
To be able to survive it requires medical care.
Since we already figured that an airport is a perfect place we would expect to treat the wounded at an airport too.

you see in which direction this goes ?

The scanners in question do have the capability because it aids in using them as a medical device in case of such an emergency where there are possibly thousands at an airport and nowhere else to go due to outer circumstances.

the devices however have the capability or at least give the opportunity to assist a doctor in a diagnosis.
And recording and storing the data with a laptop or a PC becomes a highly desirable feature, which isnt that much expensive to build that in, because the computer inside gets along with the data anyway, so why not simply make it capable on demand.

So i think this is the true purpose about why these scanners are ordered to have these capabilities.

My personal opinion in this is:
well done .. good planning ...even ok not to explain that to the public in detail...

but...
where is the control instance to ensure its not being used right now ?
are there regular and random checks wether it has been manipulated ? and if so who does it ?
if not, whom to ask to do it ?

i hope i shed some more light from this side onto it.
i'm sure it was implemented in good faith, if not ..well ... i expect to find it in this forum then