The big secret of a master Mason: "What, the builder!", page 1
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reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 02:03 PM by RuneSpider
reply to post by seattletruth



Bill is himself a scam artist, aside from claiming to be a 33rd degree Mason, when he's never displayed documentation showing it, he also claims credit for most of the Wicca communities in America.


reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 03:10 PM by network dude
reply to post by seattletruth



Here is a bit of information on that guy.

quite an interesting character.


reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 11:30 PM by KSigMason
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I watched one of the videos of Bill Schnoebelen (which was over 2 hours long) and if I saw Bill I would call him a intolerant, lying, religious zealot. He claims he was everything, from witch to Mormon to 90-degree Mason. Somehow everything that he isn't anymore is evil. His life story is filled with contradictions and his supposed Masonic membership I find suspicious. He seems to fabricate things to make his life seem more interesting and to spread his agenda, whatever it may be. It seems every few years he would add some occult title to his resume so he can be an expert to bad mouth them.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


Well, according to his own timeline displayed in his own book he was a Wiccan, and a Mormon, all the while attending Catholic school going for a degree in theology..


reply posted on 11-1-2010 @ 09:37 AM by RuneSpider
reply to post by JoshNorton


Point of correction, that's not my chart, but one I found as I was reading up on Mr. Schnoebelen.
Don't want to take credit for others work.


reply posted on 13-1-2010 @ 10:11 AM by Matthew Dark
reply to post by JoshNorton



Oh...well that just sums it all up then. I guess when you use pretty colours to explain it in plain English, it all seems to make sense. I guess he really believes his own nonsense then...so...why shouldn't we, eh? [note: sarcasm]


Originally posted by Fitzgibbon

That would have to have been the night course.

Think about it.


Ha! Well said and touche!!


reply posted on 13-1-2010 @ 11:31 PM by CTBAPRBR
reply to post by JoshNorton



Any religion is delusional, a kind of schizophrenia, where they believe that someone is watching for them. Sorry if I'm being rude. I'm believe yes in an energy that criated all living beings and everything else. Back to the point, this person -Bill Shoebelen- is confused and have mental problems. That explains why he runs everywhere trying to hide from himself.
All the best



reply posted on 8-2-2010 @ 02:51 PM by KSigMason
reply to post by Matthew Dark


Its a BS in BS.

reply to post by Gerard


I'm sure he'll claim he was an alien or abducted at one time or another, or that Freemasons are servants to aliens.


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 08:30 PM by Coemgen
"Mah-Ha-Bone" is defined as "What, the builder!".

The first question I would ask If I had gone through all the initiation and practice to get to that level and be whispered something like that.

The funny part is a lot of people may attempt to find out if it is really said. Of course what sorts of things would they have done to have heard this.

The curiosity if that is actually what it is all about may inspire some to actually find out.

So what would the message intend.
It most likely that there are multiple levels of information contained in this message.

It is almost a question, except it has an exclamation point. Perhaps it is a question with much emphasis.

The builder may be defined as a person that builds.

What, a person that builds!

What, a person that works!

When a person builds and does work detail must be attended to or the structure will not be safe. The people that design it and build it comprise the people that worked on it. And all of them have to care and put forth effort to accomplish their goal. If people are a unit of a society we build or do we not build our own society our own lives.

For the people, by the people, of the people, for the people.

At the point a person has heard this and understands the words, "Mah-Ha-Bone" and "What, the builder!" they must have spent a lot of time and energy to reach the level to be told this very significant information.



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reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 03:41 PM by vcwxvwligen
reply to post by seattletruth



The Five Points of Fellowship come after the symbolic death of Hiram Abiff, in the 3rd degree. The candidate is pulled up using the strong grip, and into the "perpendicular." You can search for it on the web. "Ma Ha Bone" is a corruption of the original Hebrew ("ma, ha-bonEH," stress on the last syllable).

Don't listen to the Freemasons here attack Bill Schnoebelen's character. That's a typical cop-out of people who don't want to argue on facts. Yes, he's been wrong a few times, but he provides a lot of useful information.
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