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Are we getting a pattern here?
That all requires infrastructure...trade routes, roads, workers, economics.
How does a culture get to that stage of sophistication? Well...they evolve through time like we have. This means huts to groups of huts, to better huts, houses and then towns to cities. These need to be linked by roads so the materials above can be transported. We need factories, education, specialization in the workforce.
A sophisticated and technologically advanced urban culture is evident in the Indus Valley Civilization making them the first urban centers in the region. The quality of municipal town planning suggests the knowledge of urban planning and efficient municipal governments which placed a high priority on hygiene, or, alternately, accessibility to the means of religious ritual.
As seen in Harappa, Mohenjo-daro and the recently partially excavated Rakhigarhi, this urban plan included the world's first known urban sanitation systems. Within the city, individual homes or groups of homes obtained water from wells. From a room that appears to have been set aside for bathing, waste water was directed to covered drains, which lined the major streets. Houses opened only to inner courtyards and smaller lanes.
The ancient Indus systems of sewerage and drainage that were developed and used in cities throughout the Indus region were far more advanced than any found in contemporary urban sites in the Middle East and even more efficient than those in many areas of Pakistan and India today. The advanced architecture of the Harappans is shown by their impressive dockyards, granaries, warehouses, brick platforms and protective walls.
The people of the Indus Civilization achieved great accuracy in measuring length, mass, and time. They were among the first to develop a system of uniform weights and measures. Their measurements are said to be extremely precise; however, a comparison of available objects indicates large scale variation across the Indus territories. Their smallest division, which is marked on an ivory scale found in Lothal, was approximately 1.704 mm, the smallest division ever recorded on a scale of the Bronze Age. Harappan engineers followed the decimal division of measurement for all practical purposes, including the measurement of mass as revealed by their hexahedron weights.
These chert weights were in a perfect ratio of 4:2:1 with weights of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, and 500 units, with each unit weighing approximately 28 grams, similar to the English Imperial ounce or Greek uncia, and smaller objects were weighed in similar ratios with the units of 0.871. The weights and measures later used in Kautilya's Arthashastra (4th century BCE) are the same as those used in Lothal.
Unique Harappan inventions include an instrument which was used to measure whole sections of the horizon and the tidal lock. In addition, Harappans evolved some new techniques in metallurgy and produced copper, bronze, lead and tin. The engineering skill of the Harappans was remarkable, especially in building docks after a careful study of tides, waves and currents.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
I think we can safely rule out the meteorite hypothesis because no evidence of a meteorite impact has been found(no impact creator, no meteorite fragments)
We must look at the available evidence and derive our conclusions from that.
Again I will say that if a future civilization finds our true historical texts about our level of technology, computers, trains, airplanes, etc., but does not find physical evidence to go with it, I would not expect them to believe that we truly had the things described in our texts. I would expect them to believe that there was historical information mixed with fictitious information within the texts, until they were able to prove otherwise.
#1 Imagining a future where all evidence of airplanes is absent apart from texts is a distraction from the point. The airports, manufacturing plants, artwork, images, diaries, news records, design manuals and etc etc would remain even if the millions of aircraft had somehow vanished from existence.
#2 The SS texts are only an 'engineering text' in the eyes of the faithful, ATS zombies and fans of the old 'forbidden archaeology' sites and books.
Samarangana Sutradhara is an encyclopedic work on classical Indian architecture (Vastu Shastra) written by Paramara King Bhoja of Dhar (1000-1055 AD).
In 83 chapters, subjects treated are town planning, house architecture, temple architecture and sculptural arts together with Mudras (the different hand poses and the poses of the body as well as the postures of legs), the canons of painting, and a chapter on the art of mechanical contrivances, the yantras (chapter 31).
#3 The 'ancient precursors' you mention aren't ancient. '18th Century' isn't ancient unless you were born then and still alive...It's a distraction and doesn't refer to ancient India.
#4 Cherry-picking the Anykthera Mechanism is a distraction tactic to avoid conceding that the utter lack of evidence indicates the texts to be false. They were propaganda in the sense that one culture sought to elevate its claims above all others.
he ancient precursors I mentioned are all ancient. The Arthshastra(ancient economics), vaiseshika shastra(ancient physics), asthayadhi(ancient computer science) charaka and sushrataha samhita(ancient medicine) and they are all at modern levels in development. In fact even modern surgery such as plastic surgery is derived from sushratha samhita. To give you an idea, in ancient times Sushratha was performing complex and very fine surgery using 125 surgical instruments. Show me something equivalent to this before modern times.
What text to be false? the SS? I think I have already shown you it is defintiely very real. I cannot quite understand on what grounds you are making this claim that it is false. Is it because you want it to be false?
The four types of Abhishyandha (Ophthalmatis), the four types of Adhi-mantha, the two forms of Akshi-páka (suppuration of the eye) attended with or without swelling, these ten, as well as Hatádhimantha, Anila-Parjáya, Śuskákshi-páka, Anyato-váta, Amládhyu#a, Drishti, Sirot-páta and Sirá-Harsha are the names of the (seventeen kinds of) diseases which affect the eye as a whole. Nearly all these forms of eye-diseases may result from the Abhishyanda (Ophthalmitis). Hence a wise physician shall try speedily to remedy a case of Abhishyanda (Ophthalmitis )as soon as it is found out. 2.
Specific Symptoms Of Abhishyanda
The symptoms which mark a case of Abhishyanda due to the action of the deranged Váyu are pricking pain (in the eyes), numbness, horripilation and irritation in the eyes, roughness and parchedness of the organ, cold lachrymations and headache. A case of Pittaja-Abhishyanda exhibits the following features, viz., burning and inflammatory suppuration of the eyes, longing for coldness (in the eyes), excessive hot lachrymations, cloudy vision and a yellowness of the eye. In the Kaphaja type of the disease, the affected organ longs for the contact of warm articles and is attended with a heaviness, itching sensation, swelling, excessive whiteness and a constant deposit and discharge of slimy mucus. The special type of this disease which has its origin in the vitiated condition of the blood, i. e. the Raktaja type is marked by redness of the eyes, flow of copper-coloured tears, as well as the symptoms of the Pittaja type of the disease and the presence of deep red stripes all along. 3-6.
We have already described the names and symptoms of the seventy-six kinds of eye disease. We shall now briefly and severally deal with the nature of treatment to be pursued in them. Of these seventy-six kinds eleven should be treated with incision operations (Chhedya), nine with scarification (Lekhya), five with excision (Bhedya), fifteen with venesection (Vyádhya); twelve cases should not be operated upon and seven admit only of palliative measures (Yápya), while fifteen should be given up by an experienced physician (Ophthalmic surgeon) as incurable. The two kinds of eye-disease of traumatic origin should be likewise held as incurable or admitting only of palliative measures at the best. 2.
Names of the Chhedya and Lekhya eye-diseases - Diseases which should be treated with incision are Ars'o-vartma, Sushkárs'as, Arvuda, Sirá-Pidaká, Sirá-jala, the five types of Arman * and Parvaniká (thus numbering eleven in ali). Diseases in which scarification should be resorted to (numbering seven in all) are Utsangini, Rahala-vartma, Kardama-vartma, Syáva-vartma, Vaddha-vartma, Klishta-vartma, Pothaki, Kumbhikini, and Śarkará-vartma. 3-4.
The Ashtadhyayi (IAST: Aṣṭādhyāyī Devanagari: अष्टाध्यायी) is the central part of Pāṇini's grammar, and by far the most complex. It is at once the most exhaustive as well as the shortest grammar of Classical Sanskrit, or indeed, of any language. It takes material from the lexical lists (Dhatupatha, Ganapatha) as input and describes algorithms to be applied to them for the generation of well-formed words. It is highly systematised and technical. Inherent in its generative approach are the concepts of the phoneme, the morpheme and the root, only recognized by Western linguists some two millennia. His rules have a reputation for perfection — that is, they are claimed to describe Sanskrit morphology fully, without any redundancy. A consequence of his grammar's focus on brevity is its highly unintuitive structure, reminiscent of modern notations such as the "Backus–Naur Form". His sophisticated logical rules and technique have been widely influential in ancient and modern linguistics.
The Backus-Naur form (Panini-Backus form) or BNF grammars used to describe modern programming languages have significant similarities to Pāṇini grammar rules. Pāṇini's grammar can be considered to be the world's first formal system, well before the 19th century innovations of Gottlob Frege and the subsequent development of mathematical logic. To design his grammar, Pāṇini used the method of "auxiliary symbols," in which new affixes are designated to mark syntactic categories and the control of grammatical derivations. This technique was rediscovered by the logician Emil Post and is now a standard method in the design of computer programming languages.
Strong and durable must the body be made, like a great flying bird, of light material. Inside it one must place the Mercury-engine with its iron heating apparatus beneath. By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky in a most marvelous manner. Similarly by using the prescribed processes one can build a vimana as large as the temple of the God-in-motion. Four strong mercury containers must be built into the interior structure. When these have been heated by controlled fire from iron containers, the vimana develops thunder-power through the mercury. And at once it becomes a pearl in the sky. Moreover, if this iron engine with properly welded joints be filled with mercury, and the fire be conducted to the upper part it develops power with the roar of a lion.
This engine works on the principle of the ionization of the propellant gas through the use of direct electron bombardment or radio frequency fields to increase the temperature of the gas and cause the desired thrust.
The gas used to propel this type of engine is either the gas Ar (Argon) or Xe (Xenon), or the vaporized form of Hg (Mercury) or Cs (Cesium).
This stored gas enters the ionization chamber to increase its temperature up to the thrust temperature.
The increase in temperature is done through the ionization of the gas.
It passes through two acceleration grids which bombard it with positive ions from the power source.
Before reaching the nozzle the accelerated mass of ionized gas is injected with electrons.
Thrust is obtained, and the exhaust beam is electrically neutral behind the thruster nozzle. (10)