Giza Pyramid Machines: Their true purpose finally revealed., page 4

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reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 05:35 AM by DizzyDayDream

reply to post by seattletruth

I love your attitude towards "free information". But i can equally appreciate what this guy Christopher Dunn is about, and what he's acheived. He seems very freelance, and also very subversive in the eyes of the Egyptologists, but both of those things haven't stopped him from going out there to do his own studies and research, which would all cost time and money. So in a way i can understand why he published his findings in a book, given how expensive collecting all that information must have been. Thats money from his own pocket too, not some academic research project funded by a university. The guy clearly has dedication.

I found this particularly fascinating too - It's the respone he recieved from a Ukranian Physicist regarding the Giza Pyramid Power Pland theory:

Dear Christopher,

I already finished to read your dissertation. I take of my hat before you. Should I send it to you by the mail? I just entered the amazon.com and put the following comments to your book:

SUMMARY
It can help our modern progressive science to find ground

ABSTRACT
The book keeps pace with my recent findings in the area of fundamentalphysics: the oriented pyramid is a resonator of the Earth inerton waves, that is, the aether wind, which was elusive from scientists in the 19th and the beginning of 20th centuries. When Einstein proposed his very formal general relativity all studies, which touched the aetherproblems, were abandoned. However, today the inerton field is already revealed. The field influences objects in the same way as ultrasound. That is why I absolutely support Chris Dunn's theory: indeed, thePyramid was constructed as a power plant that transduced the Earthvibrating energy into the electromagnetic energy. That is why the bookis highly recommended to all thinking scientists, especially, physicists.

VolodymyrDr. V. Krasnoholovets Department of Theoretical PhysicsInstitute of Physics National Academy of Sciences Prospect Nauky 46UA-03028 Kyiv Ukraine

I'm glad he mentioned electromagnetic energy. i had a suspicion it played an important role earlier in this thread. I think electromagnetism is infact repsonsable for much of the phenomenon in the hutchinson video. I wish i could explain more right no but my eyes are struggling to focus on my text book. time for some sleep i think.. But i promise ill be back in a few hours or so with a fresh perspective on attempting to explain how happens.

Adieux for now ATS.

Diizzzz zzz zzz zz (already dreaming)

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 05:51 AM by above

reply to post by seattletruth

I believe all the videos and evidence are hoaxes. The only possibly viable of them is the breaking of water using resonant frequencies, but even with it i am skeptical the energy achieved is less then what it takes to form the hho gas.

I am however hoping i am wrong

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 06:01 AM by jbmitch

The application of resonance and the discipline of harmonic attunement is a very old concept practiced by the sumerians and their follow on discipline most notably the acrane science of Kaballahism as it passed from the Sumerian empire through to the Egyptian empire and practiced by the dedendants of Abraham and as its known today as Jewish Mystic Culture of Kaballah to include the creation of life from clay (Golems).
Why is this relavant because both the monks of Tibet and the ancient Mayans also practice the use of intonation and used resonance and harmonics to leviatate large objects (Tibetan Monks) and activate stargates as practiced by the Mayan Shamism. This body of knowledge surfaced again with Nicholas Telsa and his studies in the application of harmonic resonance and again by Ed Skalieen who not only harvested the multi ton stones to build an edifact but moved it himself ..alone with a flat bed truck to its present day location of Homestead Florida.
So what has this to do with the Pryamids of Giza. Whoever designed and built the "unique" one off Giza Pryamid and Sphinx also knew and used this technology just as the builders of the structures in South America and China. Khufu didnt have to build the damm thing to have his mummy put there even though that has never been confirmed. What ever resident population is indicated in and around the Giza complex does not mean they were there to build that structue. No different than the artifacts around the pryamids in S. America.
I presented the connection of the Giza pryamid and Ed Skaleen's accomplishment on many boards both here at ATS and another popular conspiracy site. Its not a totally new concept but still just a contraversial.

I'll go a step further, beside the base that was built for the Giza pryamid which is a feat in and of its self. I propose that the Pryamid was build from the inside -out. That the same technology that used harmonic resonance that we now know can break molecular bonds and disrrupt surface tension can be used in the reverse to create solid blocks of sand out of loose dirt. Hence a futuristic form of concrete not possible.. we make ice out of water all the time in our own kitchen...who says there is yet un developed technology or laws of physics that will allow to turn sand into solid blocks.

Anyhow nice post, I never have and never will buy off on dragging multi-ton stones across desert sands to stack them 480 some feet in the air in precise geometric proportions that can not be reproduced today! But thats me!

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 06:04 AM by WISHADOW

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Seattletruth your on to many things that seem very accurate. If you observe these pyramids you can see what appears to be a water level line near the top on all of them. There are other pyramids in the world that also have these lines. So you can cleary see where the water came up to.

I've learned about the pump too and the resonating frequencies that can be controlled by the giant metal plates that hang in the shaft approaching the kings chamber. It makes complete sense for this machine to work in creating these energies. Learn about the cracked fracture that they found in the chamber on what they say was from an explosion. Makes perfect sense now. Learn about the sacred geometry laser burned into a pillar that Nassim Haramein has discovered in Giza and brought to light. Learn all these things like Ed L. from Coral Castle. Ed stated he had discovered the secret of the pyramids.

And as others I'm sure have stated it makes sense with the shafts used for something like collecting these gases or for the lines for the power source out, or tuning frequencies it makes sense this being a giant reactor. They do reside on the shore and the surrounding area appears to have been under water back in the day. They maybe so much older like 260,000 years older like the giant gold mining operation recently found near South America but hasn't been publicied. These things could of made this world grow into a water world.

I like to think of them as terraformers. But I think of them much more. If you look at the shape of the kings chamber remember it. That same type of form can be found in ancient architechture all around the world. From China, India, and beyond. That same transformer - capacitor shape only appears represented as some form of artsy type of architecture plus there are relics that seem to be more than just a sculpture sitting out in the open before everyone to see. But we don't see at like the commoners of the world. Were all too blind to see the world as it was before our time.

I am convinced that these were ancient HAARP technology types of devices. And that is why and how this world can be transformed into the Garden of Eden once again. It is the most sacred thing in this world. We say we don't know who they are but we're not allowing ourselves to perceive them that way. Those people did build the pyramids. They are the ones. It is just that after the great war much of everything was destroyed in the lava so you don't know of the hardcore evidence. It is stated in the Book of Revelations.

Many pieces were said to be housed for those people to see like a museum as Sitchin has mentioned in his books or safe housed such as the Ark of the Covenant. The Jews are at the heart of this turmoil. The Templars are said to have brought it back to Israel. Deep down below the conflict in Israel. It is the perfect cover. They know it and will kill anyone to stop it in the name of God. The ark is that important to the pyramids because it was stolen by Moses from the Egyptians. And so this is where we get the Haldron Collider. They are attempting to recreate these things or they have and now its shut down. Shut down like a Mars rover.

This whole Illumanti Ancient one all see eye thing. Oh really???? Let them hide. We outnumber them. They are cowards. They are weak. They've been here for a very long time. Remnants of the past left here in their purity waiting for ALL AWAY and their mothership to return. Funny how they all ended up being named after countries and cities. The ancient mystery conflict between the Israel and Egypt continues. In ancient times Syria stood in between. The conflict is still there and oddly enough it has been kept there for all that we know even with this so called person becoming a country to its own. They are isolated deep within the Earth. This one thinks safe breathing the open air but can only see as far as the horizon. Jesus Christ will return someday madder than hell right? Is the Vatican gonna let him spend the night? Maybe a little heehaw you know. Catch up with times. All that good stuff.

I dunno. This prophecy is no more than to regain rule. Control of this world once again before we took over. I think after they had their hissy fit with each other they cleaned house and left. They left their pets loose. Jesus was a cool guy. I wonder if he is still alive. If he died on us I wonder if they buried him next to Toto in a Sarcophagus in the biggest pyramid ever built in the universe. They would have to make a big deal like that and make the biggest pyramid you know. Power to the people.

One other thing. If we find out that you died from a heart attack well know and we won't stop until we win this war. The New World Order will be defeated. Their not going to take this world over again. Screw that. They'll never find me or do me harm I am much too powerful for my legions of black triangles. I will turn day into night and night into day. And then they will continue to piss me off and I will burn down the Vatican and blow up NASA and destroy their homeworld!!! Plaedian!!! And will continue my reign and take over Zeta Reticuli 1 and 2 as well. After that well have counsel meetings and popcorn around Orions belt. Sync our calendars from my planet to yours. It'll be fun. Everyone likes to have fun. It'll be like one galactic bash! We'll party for many moons!!!!! EVERYTHING WILL BE ON THE HOUSE!!!!!

These things finally make sense. I'm very happy Seattletruth for sharing this information to us. The Giza Pyramid Machines are real! The world needs to learn about the truth and start them up again. Who's got that kind of money and power? Anyone? Hello? What about the Chinese they make everything?

Hey wait a minute. That rich billionaire Maurice I think he's got it in with the Emperor. Meh. With that kind of money I bet he's also funding Pyramid City in Japan.

I AM POSSESSED BY HIS HOLINESS!!!!!

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 06:04 AM by guessing

Great thread and postulations.

Something to add as an after thought. Is it a possiblity the geological location of the pyramids is on a slip fault shear zone and geothermal energy could assist in the seperation of the H2o.?

I haven't examined the regions geology, yet it is known that gold is distributed and collects near the surface through hydrothermal veins.

Geothermal energy assistance may explain rounding and blackening of rocks at or near the bedrock. Just like a pressure cooker, water vapor under tremendous pressure in a pyramid structure would enable enormous amounts of energy. There would need to be a venting system, I would assume. I am not familiar with the pyramids so I will leave that up to experts to determine.

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 06:05 AM by moniker

Originally posted by seattletruth
We use nuclear power today, but that takes lots of refining of uranium, lots of metal, etc. My bet is that they were actually more advanced than us today, and were using water from the Nile to generate power, with no radioactive byproducts.

Talk about "alternative energy" and "green power".

Going slightly off topic here. Back when "we" started making nuclear reactors based on Uranium, there were also at the same time projects involved in creating Thorium reactors with better efficiency and very little waste products. The powers that be decided to go with Uranium despite all the side effects and lower efficiency because they wanted the Plutonium.

Now Thorium reactors are being rediscovered again and I believe that both India and Russia have started making them.

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 06:51 AM by reject

reply to post by seattletruth

who knows, maybe the pyramids started the ball rolling so that a harsh atmosphere stabilized enough for more complex animals like us

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 06:52 AM by Reevster

Makes sense, Think about it this way, If persay it was some aliens who crashed on earth for and for what ever reason they couldnt contact their planet / own kind and those aliens were smart but like someone of today could use a computer but could not build one( make the parts etc) so they couldnt repair their ship well enough for space travel ,but they did have basic knowlege of other things and one of those things was the use of sound / frequencies etc. They then used what was on hand to build a power planet or what have you, maybe it was even some kind of becon in hopes of a passer by could find them , sort of a SOS singal.

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 07:16 AM by InfaRedMan

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Finally revealed again! How many final reveals must we endure!

IRM

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 07:19 AM by genius/idoit

Well I for one am jealous!I have hypothesized a similar theory and did not make the leaps you did.Here is a post I made not one week ago on the thread by Scott Creighton

Originally posted by genius/idoit reply to post by atswheat
thank you.I asked Scott (and others)if they had heard of this prophecy and it seemed none had.
Well that's interesting but I'm not convinced that Giza was built with one cohesive plan,I believe the Sphinx and great pyramid are far older.I guess however that whoever built the subsequent structures may have had this in mind.Interesting to say the least and I will look into it.Thanks s&f Edit; Are you aware of any prophecy that involves the shafts of the pyramid?I heard about it years ago and have not been able to find it.
This is the reason I started to look into and subsequently believe that 2012 was going to be an earth changing year. I believe the missing piece of the puzzle has to do with sound.It is a knowledge possessed by the Mayans that has yet to be explored.I tried to capture some of the mystery in this thread mysteries of the mayans let me know what you think. I have decided I had better tell you some of my theories on the pyramids at Giza and Chi Chen Itza,but bear in mind I can prove none of it,it is only a theory. The pyramid at Giza was built as a message to future generations to be sure but not just to foretell the end of time but to offer a solution as well (maybe even as a test?).I do not believe that the pyramids were built by brute force I believe that the blocks were put into place by manipulating(through sound)the gravitational(magnetic)properties of the stones.This is also why I believe Ed Leedskanlin is an integral clue as to how to do this.However if you figure out how to control the gravitational forces then you basically have solved the problem of space travel and hence can get off this planet sidestepping the disaster to come.I believe the manipulation can be accomplished by introducing sound into the stones which in turn will effect the molecular structure rearranging the protons and neutrons in order to repel or attract the earths magnetism I believe that the sound characteristics at Chi Chen Itza are a clue to the knowledge of sound the Mayans and by extension the Egyptians surely possessed. I also recently watched a documentary that said the Germans were experimenting with some sort of sound waves for a propulsion system but I have not had time to absorb that yet.I digress,it is late here and I am tired,I look forward to your responses even if it is just to say I'm an Idiot. Cheers G/I [edit on 3-1-2010 by genius/idoit]

not exactly the same theory but it should lend credence to the fact that you came up with this on your own.Also I'm curious to know what you think of my theory.And were you aware that by splitting/fracturing the water molecule and allowing it to reform it creates an extra hydrogen molecule that then may be extracted for energy?And that info was given to us in a crop circle or series of crop circles?(I don't know if we had it previously)

Good work s&f

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reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 07:30 AM by Whateva69

I’ve recently read chariots of the gods,
All the pieces are now slowly coming together. Thank you

Btw that dude and his castle, he was a total bugger for keeping his secret.
I’ve had some huge garden stones that needed moving in the past, could have come in handy knowing how he did that.

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 07:47 AM by MOTT the HOOPLE

Here's a question! Why do your post suddenly get deleted when you mention the other two pyramids?

LET ME GUESS! THEY OTHER TWO ARE FAR MORE INTERESTING AND PEOPLE ARE BEING THROWN OFF TRACK WITH THE GREAT PYRAMID? CLOSE TO THE TRUTH?

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reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 07:56 AM by genius/idoit

reply to post by MOTT the HOOPLE

What do you mean please explain?

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 08:10 AM by Cornczech

reply to post by Asktheanimals

Wish I could remember the program I saw...but I recall seeing some documentary that postulated RAIN damage on the Sphinx, (ALSO suggesting a much older age than "scholars" currently speculate for the Sphinx......)

I certainly believe that knowledge is not necessarily "linear"....meaning that we certainly are not obtaining/garnering more knowledge with the passage of time...and religion, in my opinion, has killed a LOT of the knowledge we "knew" before the "popularity" of the "mainstream" religions like Christianity, Islam and Judaism......one thing for sure....a lot of good all of our "superior knowledge" has done us over the eons...(eyes rolling and tongue firmly planted in cheek......)

ciao ya'll

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 08:13 AM by genius/idoit

reply to post by Cornczech

The show you are referring to was something by Graham Hancock I believe.

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 08:17 AM by druid1

I would just like to throw my hat into the crowd on this one.
First of all thanks to the Op for his hard work here. I was a shame to read some of the comments trying to drag you down - Don't be deterred - your ideas and theories are just as valid as anyone elses. I don't know if anyone here has been inside the circle at stonehenge but as any Druid will tell you the properties of sound behave in a strange way inside the circle.
So I for one believe that the answer to this lies in the frequency or resonace of sound. I have read the the chamber in the Pyramid resonates at 440 hz - And just as a thought any sound engineer will tell you that at around 40 hz you can literally get the walls of a hall to vibrate to produce LFO which can literally move objects around or create a great effect at any techno rave...Another point I would like to make is that Whales use very low frequency to communicate as does HAARP to communicate with deep submarines. I for one like the SOS theory put forward here maybe the pyramid when operational was used for a deep space transmission or beacon of some kind. Anyway thanks for the best thread that I have read in a long while and debunkers well it is ok to say it is a load of clap trap but what about some supporting links..

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 08:34 AM by Chett

Since water has been shown to respond to human thoughts might we manage to reduce the power required to split it by asking the molecules to line up nicely first?
OK, so maybe they wouldn't understand that one but nice happy appreciative thoughts might help.

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 08:34 AM by MOTT the HOOPLE

The great pyramid of Giza has been stripped of anything interesting! But because it's the biggest it draws the most attention! But it's nothing more than an ancient shell game! Hide all the vaulable stuff under the pyramid that looks the least.. But whats under there? they say it's too unsafe too study and everyone gets denied access two these too pyramids.

But I meet up with a friend of mine who that was an Egyptologist from RMIT and he said the found something really strange under the pyramid of Horus! He called great pyramid the pyramid Isis.

I don't which one it was to the Horus pyramid left or right. But it wasen't long after that Egypt decided to get all national and restrict digs to less important sites.

My Friend didn't elaborate on what they found but he left Egyptology and got a degree in theoretical physics.

So that more than anything leads me to believe the great pyramid is nothing but for tourist's.

One last thing I will add is that he said was "one and two makes three!one and two make one!" I thought he was pissed at the time. But it might mean something too our most learned people.

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reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 08:59 AM by bigyin

Interesting thread. Not had time to take it all in but just want to say that the idea that intelligent beings with knowledge of steel and alloys would resort to using mare basic technology of copper and stone is definetly not strange.

People nowadays know that modern technology exists but if their situation is such, say stranded on an island, then they have to resort to more basic techniques to survive.

If I'm out camping I build a small fire with sticks to make a brew. I know I could use a microwave but I don't have one to hand.

You can only use whats available.

reply posted on 10-1-2010 @ 09:12 AM by rickyrrr

reply to post by seattletruth

I'd like to politely point out an error in your post, that the dipoles in polar substances and dielectrics exposed to electric field gradients are not of magnetic but electrostatic nature.

I really would like to believe that gravity could be a manifestation of electrostatic force, and I have, based on this desire collected a pretty decent amount of documentation.

It is a fact that the true origin of gravity is not well explained, but it surely would be awesome if our standard model of physics turned out to *already be a TOE* but gravity was somehow neglected as a very weak interaction between electric fields. This is a possibility that has not been explored as much as one would be compelled based on the evidence out there.

Please have a look at these papers and tell me what you think:

www.electrogravityphysics.com...

www.blazelabs.com...

arxiv.org...

Notice that only one of these is a proper "peer reviewed" paper, although they essentially deal with the same basic concept:

that the net electrostatic force generated at a distance by neutral matter (electrons orbiting a collection of protons and possibly neutrons) is very close to zero, but not quite, because of the spatial distribution of the charges:

in other words, if you work out the integral for the force experienced by a charged particle at a given distance due to the electron cloud, you need to integrate over the surface area of the sphere representing the probable instantaneous location of the electron, and then, to calculate the net force, you have to calculate the same integral, but only for the protons, which are localized in a very very tiny space in the middle.

If you do the math, it is easy to realize that the result is *almost* but NOT QUITE zero. to illustrate this in non-mathematical terms, draw a circle, put a dot in the center, and then from another dot anywhere outside the circle, draw a second larger circle such that its radius is long enough so it touches the dot in the center of the first circle. You will see that this circle encloses *less than half* of the first circle, so less than half of that electron cloud (represented by the first, smaller circe) is closer to the distant particle, but the entire nucleus is within just about equal range. And this tiny but residual force is right in the order of magnitude that one would expect for gravity!!!!!! yes, really!

Finally, it is presented that the force in question is non-shieldable, and it is proposed that electric fields are not shieldable in the absolute sense, and evidence is presented.

Now, consider also that dielectrics have something known as a relaxation time
en.wikipedia.org...(physics)

and other time constants and damping constants which are consistent with a second order type interaction (like mass and spring system or pendulum) where resonances can be set in motion, then it is not very hard to imagine that non-linear effects may be lurking at the very extremes of super high voltages (high electric field gradients) with high power of radio frequency, acoustic vibration, or any other stimulus capable of shaking that electron cloud so hard that protons are literally exposed bare (poking out of the electron cloud) at least some fraction of the time, for some very massive elements.

So, is it possible that there is something to the hutchinson effect? I think that it might be worth a second look.

While I have not entirely read your post and how it applies to any pyramids, I just had to get this out there to see what the more scientifically minded folk at ATS think, since it lends some support to some of your ideas.

-rrr