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Giza Pyramid Machines: Their true purpose finally revealed.

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posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 06:59 PM
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The evidence is way to involved .. there a a thousand factors to consider .

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posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 07:29 PM
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Most complex things can be summarized however....


Concerning claims of concussive cracking in the King's chamber have you compared the amount, extend and depth of these cracks with other sacrophagus chambers in Khafre tomb, Menkaures, Bent pyramid, Red pyramid, etc. If your hypnothesis is correct there should be much less damage to those structures, if its from settling and pressure then it should be about the same - have any of you done so?

Thanks for the discussion see you guys tomorrow
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posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 12:32 AM
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I know it's an old thread but, Really intriguing - thanks.
I've always felt the pyramids must have some function as well, but I don't have the smarts to come up with plausible scenarios. I like these theories. Has anyone built an exact replica of the inner chambers and tried out any of these hypothesis? Would be interesting to see what occurs.. Or is this a completely unfeasible idea? Does the scale need to be also replicated for such theories to be accurately tested?
( My apologies if these points have already been covered, I have a slow internet connection and must pick and choose what posts I can read).



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by Hanslune

Originally posted by audibear
reply to post by InhaleExhale
 


Interesting accusation, yet far from the truth. First of all, I don't posses the arrogance to believe we are the only sentient beings in the universe. Humankind hasn't even learned to crawl yet much less walk. I try to remain objective and base my findings on observations. Not just my own either. Energy was created and used for a specific purpose. That my friend is the knowledge I seek. WHAT WAS THAT PURPOSE?


Howdy audibear

Interesting remarks

You said this



Humankind hasn't even learned to crawl yet much less walk


Then said this



I try to remain objective and base my findings on observations


...and what observation leads you to make the first statement - to what criteria/race are you comparing humankind too?





Hanslune, Now if ‘Audiobear’ was an Alien….. I could understand his comments.

And ‘Audiobear’s’ response where he linked to a UK website of someone with no academic credentials to support his hypothesis Here





Alex Whitaker of Ancient-Wisdom.co.uk:
Whilst I have not received any training in prehistory, I respect the value of empirical research and have attempted to maintain a fully referenced academic standard throughout.


The things that stand out on the above website are the donation buttons and the graphics/threads that have already been birthed on ATS many times. Now looking over some of the articles on that site i.e. Bosnian Pyramids and Michael Tellingers ‘Adams Calendar’ and his African findings of cattle kraals labeled as archaeological discoveries, I have to shake by head in disbelief. I’ve come across this many times on the internet, websites pedaling untrue contents and asking gullible people to donate to their spreading of disinformation. I wish people would check out their linked websites first to see whether it’s a reliable source of material.


I too have an interest in the Pyramids and will hopefully be posting a new thread soon. However I won’t be re-hashing other threads, I will be presenting some new material for you to either debunk or support. Many thanks to you academics here Scott Creighton, Hanslune, Hart, I enjoy reading all your material.

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posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 08:57 AM
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Wow! I could put in supporting evidence and will at a later date. I don't have all the proof to prove my hypothesis so would some of you folks due me the honor of disproving me? I'm having a hard time with that one. I am not linking man made technologies to the machine. I am theorizing it is all natural materials assembled in a form that works. The simplicity is the beauty. A working creation in very simple form.



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 10:31 AM
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What purpose would it serve to "summarize" ..you cant even see the scorched granite in the coffer .

There is a wealth of information that traditional (dogmatic) believers in the academic line refuse to acknowledge .

So presenting an incomplete picture of complex process of interactions is worthless except to offer you another opportunity to dismiss offhand what you do not understand .

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posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by R0CR13
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What purpose would it serve to "summarize" ..you cant even see the scorched granite in the coffer .


I see granite and perhaps soot - what scorches granite and what does that look like? That particular piece of granite is chocolate coloured, so its unclear what you are pointing too. I notice too that my suggestion of doing actual scientific work - comparing King's chambers in a number of pyramids was ignore - why?


There is a wealth of information that traditional (dogmatic) believers in the academic line refuse to acknowledge .


You mean all the information that contradicts itself and has answers to them that are not accepted by fringe believers? Then yes there is a 'wealth' of that which support two score of more of competing fringe and alternative ideas about the pyramid. Yet the actual evidence (which the believers in the fringe line refuse to acknowledge), thin as it may be points, especially if you study the AE culture, to what they were used for.


So presenting an incomplete picture of complex process of interactions is worthless except to offer you another opportunity to dismiss offhand what you do not understand .


Since you don't seem to understand it either, as you cannot explain it I guess that leaves your hypothesis loose in the galaxy looking for a home. To have a hypothesis you have to, its not optional, explain what it is. When you come up with something please come back - I look forward to it.



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by audibear
Wow! I could put in supporting evidence and will at a later date.


That would be a good idea



I don't have all the proof to prove my hypothesis so would some of you folks due me the honor of disproving me?


Disprove what exactly?



I'm having a hard time with that one. I am not linking man made technologies to the machine. I am theorizing it is all natural materials assembled in a form that works. The simplicity is the beauty. A working creation in very simple form.


Okay and how will you show that? Also what in your estimation would falsify your hypothesis?



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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We'll wait for you pyramid thread then, thanks



posted on Jul, 28 2013 @ 09:51 AM
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I see granite and perhaps soot - what scorches granite and what does that look like? That particular piece of granite is chocolate coloured,...


It is NOT chocolate colored that is residue from usage .. once cleaned it is clearly Aswan rose granite !

The interior being more distressed than the exterior .

You want a quick answer but refuse to consider the evidence before your eyes .





You mean all the information that contradicts itself ....... ?



I mean solid evidence that people like you who are determined to perpetuate the dogma of 100 years ago cant seem to comprehend .


It is you that lack understanding and your traditional bias is your stumbling block .


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posted on Jul, 28 2013 @ 09:57 AM
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You really want to do this ?

Ok but it will not be one sided .

I'd like to start with construction location orientation and materials used in construction and the reasons for their selection with special focus on the attributes of the materials ...

Why don't you begin by giving us the traditional perspective .

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 06:59 PM
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Good questions. I hope were not goin towards any other newage nonsense thou.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by R0CR13

It is NOT chocolate colored that is residue from usage .. once cleaned it is clearly Aswan rose granite !


Sources disagree some list it as red, some as rose and some as chocolate. Below is the colour range for what people think red granite looks like, some seem to think its chocolate. When I've seen it is a an off red chocolate colour.


The interior being more distressed than the exterior


In your opinion I don't see that at all. perhaps you have scientific report that support this and soot?



You want a quick answer but refuse to consider the evidence before your eyes .


I want a report by experts who have closely examined the sacrophagus - do you have such?


[quote\I mean solid evidence that people like you who are determined to perpetuate the dogma of 100 years ago cant seem to comprehend .

Lol so what is this evidence? Also why do you use the term 100 years the Pyramid as tomb has been known - by the Egyptians for 2,500 years. Question for you what does the hieroglyphic below mean in AE?





It is you that lack understanding and your traditional bias is your stumbling block .


I would disagree I see my none exceptance of poor evidence as a salute to my knowledge of AE archaeology, religion and culture. You do not appear to have evidence but biased opinion.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by R0CR13
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You really want to do this ?

Ok but it will not be one sided .

I'd like to start with construction location orientation and materials used in construction and the reasons for their selection with special focus on the attributes of the materials ...

Why don't you begin by giving us the traditional perspective .

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I'll start with a position summary

I hold that the evidence we have points to the AE as the builders of the pyramids as tombs for their Pharaohs in accordance with their religion and culture,



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 02:15 PM
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The traditional perspective is variable. Some people think that the middle age and new age of AE try to imitate the old age of AE as (IMO) it could've been the most advanced. They suspect that the teachings of the technology used in building large and prescise structures in AE was forgotten and that they worshipped the greatest works of art they had left and named certain key beings that were prominent characters in the old age. It's only a theory that Egyptian religion only started after the 8000 bc mark. Many structures in AE do remain that are dated at 12000 bc or earlier.
It's only a theory though.


There's also very clear evidence in the Red Pyramid. There is a celestial map of time that says that cancer was 8000 bc and that the old age was before that.



posted on Aug, 7 2014 @ 02:46 PM
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Well not quite a theory more like an idea or thought.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 08:31 AM
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Hi there, you have an interesting theory but I'm afraid the true reason behind the pyramids is not anything as imaginative as you might think. The pyramids were bank vaults of sorts for the gold mined in the slave continent of Africa.

Firstly observe the subterranean level of the Pyramid, its distance below the ground provides excellent food storage temperatures as it is much cooler than the upper levels. More importantly there is access to an aquifer, an underground un-polutable water source which is key to the function of the facility. Man can go three weeks or so without food, but only three days without water. Any attempt to store water in vessels for a duration would prove fruitless as still water stagnates relatively quickly.

So this is how it works..

Gold form the slave camps of Africa would be mined, purified and transported to north east of the continent where it was stored in the pyramids for distribution to Asia minor and european markets. But back then they did not have banks with large vaults to secure the rich pay load, so thus they created the pyramid.

A solid fortress of stone which would take a long time to penetrate. The structure would act like a Vault/panic-room. I imagine the gold would be stored in what is referred to as the Kings. Chamber where it would be loaded on by a wedge with wheels attached to a pulley system. chamber where it would be loaded on by a wedge with wheels attached to a pulley system.
We observe the odd looking slotted cavities above the kings chamber. I imagine two of the slotted cavity's above the Kings chamber would be used for dried food goods but more importantly i think the lower two cavities were used for housing homing pidgins.

Should the pyramid come under siege the team sealed themselves in and release the pidgins from the air vents , they would fly off to deliver the call for help from the allied armies in near by settlements. The so called Queens chamber would be where the security team would reside whilst under siege.

(The official reason for the cavity's above the kings chamber docent fly with me, if its function were really for weight pressure reduction, why was the chamber not built centrally?
If they can build a pyramid with angles correct to within a 50th of an inch then I'm sure they are perfectly capable of getting the positioning right!)

Should the entrance blockade be penetrated the angles of the entrance corridors provide protection from any attempt to smoke them out. As I'm sure you know smoke is hot and cannot go down before going up. If you have a look at angles of the corridors in the picture above you will see the access point go's down before it go's up.

Should the attackers manage to get through the blockade completely and penetrate the installation they would automatically be put at a tactical disadvantage. The corridors are built with really low ceilings so the attackers have to crouch down low to ascend putting them at a considerable disadvantage.

I noticed that in the gallery there are metal struts that protrude from the wall, i think act as holders for very long spears.
The extra width space in the gallery provides a greater degree of manoeuvrability for the defender.
Should the attacker try to smoke out the security from the base of the internal access tunnel they could simply pour down water from clay vessels to put it out.

As another security measure stone balls could be rolled down at the attackers, killing them and also blocking the entrance to slow there attack.

I don't think that coffer in the kings chamber is for storing a body at all. I think it is for storing the much smaller bits of gold stored in the facility that could easily fit into a persons discrete area.
The granite lid would be so heavy that it requires several men to move it thus there would always be witnesses present at the time of opening to reduce the opportunity of theft.
The mere fact that the internal walls of the chambers are not covered in hieroglyphs defies logic.
If it were indeed a burial chamber there would be spells or something adorning the walls to send them to the afterlife. They were deeply mystical people after all.

As the facility needed to conserve the oxygen content it would not be possible to use traditional torch's as not only will it burn up oxygen it would create a toxic environment inside the build. That is where the strange looking lightbulbs in the stone carvings come in. The lightbulbs were powered Quartz bowls calved out of one Quartz seem. These bowls can still be found on the plateau of Giza to this day. You see Quartz is a piezoelectric material which creates a electric charge when distorted behind 0.05% of its dimensions. Its is the same technology used in electric lighters. In the bowls you will see three holes. Positive Negative and neutral. From what i can gather the bowls were in an installation designed for maxim resonance. I presume pipes were installed perpendicularly in the ceiling. The passing winds on the elevated position would pass over the pipes (like pan pipes) and resonate the chamber containing the Quartz bowls, they intern would produce a charge which is then fed down to the pyramids through a wire system.

All the clues are there, If anybody can provide any reason to refute my theory i would be happy to hear from them



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: flubbnutts
All the clues are there, If anybody can provide any reason to refute my theory i would be happy to hear from them



It isn't a theory, its a hypothesis and its nonsense, you have ignored all the evidence to the contrary and apparently do not even understand the basics, like here for instance



The mere fact that the internal walls of the chambers are not covered in hieroglyphs defies logic.
If it were indeed a burial chamber there would be spells or something adorning the walls to send them to the afterlife. They were deeply mystical people after all.

FYI the Egyptians didn't start decorating inside pyramids until the end of the fifth dynasty, the Gizamids date to the fourth dynasty
Are you even aware that the pyramids are in the centre of a necropolis (city of the dead), that quarry marks identify Khufu as builder, are you aware of the development from Mastaba to true pyramid over hundreds of years, are you aware that the Giza radiocarbon project proved the date of construction...

Happy to hear you're completely wrong ?





posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 10:44 AM
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you should also probably read this
www.catchpenny.org...
There go the lightbulbs
in future, it'd probably be better if you researched the facts rather than attempting to build on the lies provided by Sitchin et al



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 03:56 PM
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hi
in a non alien, non technologicai context do you have any imformation to whether the great pyramid was constructed on an older stie of some longstanding local significance?



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