Giza Pyramid Machines: Their true purpose finally revealed.

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posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 06:59 PM
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The evidence is way to involved .. there a a thousand factors to consider .

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posted on Jul, 25 2013 @ 07:29 PM
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Most complex things can be summarized however....


Concerning claims of concussive cracking in the King's chamber have you compared the amount, extend and depth of these cracks with other sacrophagus chambers in Khafre tomb, Menkaures, Bent pyramid, Red pyramid, etc. If your hypnothesis is correct there should be much less damage to those structures, if its from settling and pressure then it should be about the same - have any of you done so?

Thanks for the discussion see you guys tomorrow
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posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 12:32 AM
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I know it's an old thread but, Really intriguing - thanks.
I've always felt the pyramids must have some function as well, but I don't have the smarts to come up with plausible scenarios. I like these theories. Has anyone built an exact replica of the inner chambers and tried out any of these hypothesis? Would be interesting to see what occurs.. Or is this a completely unfeasible idea? Does the scale need to be also replicated for such theories to be accurately tested?
( My apologies if these points have already been covered, I have a slow internet connection and must pick and choose what posts I can read).



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by Hanslune

Originally posted by audibear
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Interesting accusation, yet far from the truth. First of all, I don't posses the arrogance to believe we are the only sentient beings in the universe. Humankind hasn't even learned to crawl yet much less walk. I try to remain objective and base my findings on observations. Not just my own either. Energy was created and used for a specific purpose. That my friend is the knowledge I seek. WHAT WAS THAT PURPOSE?


Howdy audibear

Interesting remarks

You said this



Humankind hasn't even learned to crawl yet much less walk


Then said this



I try to remain objective and base my findings on observations


...and what observation leads you to make the first statement - to what criteria/race are you comparing humankind too?





Hanslune, Now if ‘Audiobear’ was an Alien….. I could understand his comments.

And ‘Audiobear’s’ response where he linked to a UK website of someone with no academic credentials to support his hypothesis Here





Alex Whitaker of Ancient-Wisdom.co.uk:
Whilst I have not received any training in prehistory, I respect the value of empirical research and have attempted to maintain a fully referenced academic standard throughout.


The things that stand out on the above website are the donation buttons and the graphics/threads that have already been birthed on ATS many times. Now looking over some of the articles on that site i.e. Bosnian Pyramids and Michael Tellingers ‘Adams Calendar’ and his African findings of cattle kraals labeled as archaeological discoveries, I have to shake by head in disbelief. I’ve come across this many times on the internet, websites pedaling untrue contents and asking gullible people to donate to their spreading of disinformation. I wish people would check out their linked websites first to see whether it’s a reliable source of material.


I too have an interest in the Pyramids and will hopefully be posting a new thread soon. However I won’t be re-hashing other threads, I will be presenting some new material for you to either debunk or support. Many thanks to you academics here Scott Creighton, Hanslune, Hart, I enjoy reading all your material.
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posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 08:57 AM
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Wow! I could put in supporting evidence and will at a later date. I don't have all the proof to prove my hypothesis so would some of you folks due me the honor of disproving me? I'm having a hard time with that one. I am not linking man made technologies to the machine. I am theorizing it is all natural materials assembled in a form that works. The simplicity is the beauty. A working creation in very simple form.



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 10:31 AM
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What purpose would it serve to "summarize" ..you cant even see the scorched granite in the coffer .

There is a wealth of information that traditional (dogmatic) believers in the academic line refuse to acknowledge .

So presenting an incomplete picture of complex process of interactions is worthless except to offer you another opportunity to dismiss offhand what you do not understand .

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posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by R0CR13
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What purpose would it serve to "summarize" ..you cant even see the scorched granite in the coffer .


I see granite and perhaps soot - what scorches granite and what does that look like? That particular piece of granite is chocolate coloured, so its unclear what you are pointing too. I notice too that my suggestion of doing actual scientific work - comparing King's chambers in a number of pyramids was ignore - why?


There is a wealth of information that traditional (dogmatic) believers in the academic line refuse to acknowledge .


You mean all the information that contradicts itself and has answers to them that are not accepted by fringe believers? Then yes there is a 'wealth' of that which support two score of more of competing fringe and alternative ideas about the pyramid. Yet the actual evidence (which the believers in the fringe line refuse to acknowledge), thin as it may be points, especially if you study the AE culture, to what they were used for.


So presenting an incomplete picture of complex process of interactions is worthless except to offer you another opportunity to dismiss offhand what you do not understand .


Since you don't seem to understand it either, as you cannot explain it I guess that leaves your hypothesis loose in the galaxy looking for a home. To have a hypothesis you have to, its not optional, explain what it is. When you come up with something please come back - I look forward to it.



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by audibear
Wow! I could put in supporting evidence and will at a later date.


That would be a good idea



I don't have all the proof to prove my hypothesis so would some of you folks due me the honor of disproving me?


Disprove what exactly?



I'm having a hard time with that one. I am not linking man made technologies to the machine. I am theorizing it is all natural materials assembled in a form that works. The simplicity is the beauty. A working creation in very simple form.


Okay and how will you show that? Also what in your estimation would falsify your hypothesis?



posted on Jul, 26 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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We'll wait for you pyramid thread then, thanks



posted on Jul, 28 2013 @ 09:51 AM
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I see granite and perhaps soot - what scorches granite and what does that look like? That particular piece of granite is chocolate coloured,...


It is NOT chocolate colored that is residue from usage .. once cleaned it is clearly Aswan rose granite !

The interior being more distressed than the exterior .

You want a quick answer but refuse to consider the evidence before your eyes .





You mean all the information that contradicts itself ....... ?



I mean solid evidence that people like you who are determined to perpetuate the dogma of 100 years ago cant seem to comprehend .


It is you that lack understanding and your traditional bias is your stumbling block .


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posted on Jul, 28 2013 @ 09:57 AM
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You really want to do this ?

Ok but it will not be one sided .

I'd like to start with construction location orientation and materials used in construction and the reasons for their selection with special focus on the attributes of the materials ...

Why don't you begin by giving us the traditional perspective .

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posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 06:59 PM
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Good questions. I hope were not goin towards any other newage nonsense thou.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by R0CR13

It is NOT chocolate colored that is residue from usage .. once cleaned it is clearly Aswan rose granite !


Sources disagree some list it as red, some as rose and some as chocolate. Below is the colour range for what people think red granite looks like, some seem to think its chocolate. When I've seen it is a an off red chocolate colour.


The interior being more distressed than the exterior


In your opinion I don't see that at all. perhaps you have scientific report that support this and soot?



You want a quick answer but refuse to consider the evidence before your eyes .


I want a report by experts who have closely examined the sacrophagus - do you have such?


[quote\I mean solid evidence that people like you who are determined to perpetuate the dogma of 100 years ago cant seem to comprehend .

Lol so what is this evidence? Also why do you use the term 100 years the Pyramid as tomb has been known - by the Egyptians for 2,500 years. Question for you what does the hieroglyphic below mean in AE?





It is you that lack understanding and your traditional bias is your stumbling block .


I would disagree I see my none exceptance of poor evidence as a salute to my knowledge of AE archaeology, religion and culture. You do not appear to have evidence but biased opinion.



posted on Jul, 31 2013 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by R0CR13
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You really want to do this ?

Ok but it will not be one sided .

I'd like to start with construction location orientation and materials used in construction and the reasons for their selection with special focus on the attributes of the materials ...

Why don't you begin by giving us the traditional perspective .

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I'll start with a position summary

I hold that the evidence we have points to the AE as the builders of the pyramids as tombs for their Pharaohs in accordance with their religion and culture,





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