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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Originally posted by downisreallyup
reply to post by A52FWY
I would suggest you watch the documentary called "The Corporation" by Michael Moore. It really is quite enlightening.
This is now the second thread I have seen you credit Micheal Moore for the documentary The Corporation. This film was written by Joel Bakan and directed by Mark Achbar and Jennifer Abbot. Micheal Moore had nothing to do with this documentary.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Southern Guardian
Thanks for this thread, you know the phrase the "American dream" that was invented to give hope to those at the bottom of the class ladder to have the live on hopes of better days and a life of riches.
But in America and like in any other nation wealth is control by the few.
The American dream is nothing but hoax.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Incredible how you can compare the American economy by the same numbers the government try to use to show how good as a nation we are doing.
Wake up we are stagnated and those numbers you show are poverty level and growing.
We are going backwards no forward.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Southern Guardian
Thanks for this thread, you know the phrase the "American dream" that was invented to give hope to those at the bottom of the class ladder to have the live on hopes of better days and a life of riches.
But in America and like in any other nation wealth is control by the few.
The American dream is nothing but hoax.
In 2008 the U.S. Census Bureau reported that the annual income of people doubled from that of 1968 from $13,374 to $26,804, and non wage compensation in the form of benefits had increased greatly as well. These figures are adjusted to account for inflation to accurately show how people two years ago were doing fabulously better than people were doing 40 years ago. Between 2005 and 2006 the millionaire population had increased by 8.3%, (See 2008 U.S. Census report and Wall Street Journal The Wealth Report June 27, 2007).
That's some hoax.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by Southern Guardian
I have all ready answered your demand that I name one time in history where capitalism didn't need a working class in an earlier post by stating that there never has been a time in history where capitalism has been able to operate under its own tenets.
There is no time in history when there was a free and unregulated market place. Certainly not in the U.S. since from the beginning, and the value of gold was fixed by government edict from that start.
Your complaints are against oligopolism or corporatism and have nothing to do with capitalism except for the bill of goods you were sold by Marx. Furthermore, the "working class" is not bound to indentured servitude and can at any time break free of this "class" and strike out on their own and do business. Even in a highly regulated marketplace there are still street vendors across the nation who ignore the oppressive licensing and prohibition laws and sell their goods in public places anyway. They do so because there is a demand for those goods and people will buy those goods, regardless of the regulation that would seek to hinder it.
Originally posted by rizla
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Southern Guardian
Thanks for this thread, you know the phrase the "American dream" that was invented to give hope to those at the bottom of the class ladder to have the live on hopes of better days and a life of riches.
But in America and like in any other nation wealth is control by the few.
The American dream is nothing but hoax.
In 2008 the U.S. Census Bureau reported that the annual income of people doubled from that of 1968 from $13,374 to $26,804, and non wage compensation in the form of benefits had increased greatly as well. These figures are adjusted to account for inflation to accurately show how people two years ago were doing fabulously better than people were doing 40 years ago. Between 2005 and 2006 the millionaire population had increased by 8.3%, (See 2008 U.S. Census report and Wall Street Journal The Wealth Report June 27, 2007).
That's some hoax.
I estimate that since the 1970s UK property prices have increased more than 2000%. Presumably rent has gone up in a similar way. The figures are similar in the USA.
So the above figures are pretty meaningless.
Interestingly, the only people to benefit from the increase in property prices are the rich, because they are able to lend more money and earn more from debt.