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Indian man attacked and set alight in Melbourne

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posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 05:56 AM
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(Double-post, I apologise)

Sorry if my post sounds like I'm singling out members of the middle-eastern communities of Australia, I don't hold some bizarre grudge against that or any other section of our society. I just hate this knee-jerk reaction every non-Australian seems to have when they hear the words "racial-violence" and instantly assume "It'll be them thar racist white peeple, driving about in their pick-up trucks attacking Indians" when really it's never as simple as that.




posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by Kailassa
Don't judge the many by the few.


Australians like me love having people from everywhere as friends. This culture would lose an important part of it's richness if Indians were to suddenly leave.


Here! Here!
Now this calls for some champagne!
But you'll agree that there are some down under who are tarnishing the image of Australia by their vile deeds! If your police had been more pro-active ab initio, things wouldn't have come to such a head!



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 02:26 AM
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I find this quite strange. I've travelled a fair bit & I like to get to some obscure places: have a little adventure type of thing. I find that if I stumble upon somewhere cool, if there isn't a cool aussie there already, there'll be one along soon.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by Bunken Drum
I find this quite strange. I've travelled a fair bit & I like to get to some obscure places: have a little adventure type of thing. I find that if I stumble upon somewhere cool, if there isn't a cool aussie there already, there'll be one along soon.


On behalf of the Aussies at ATS, I thank you for your kind comments on us. There have been very few in this thread.

Aussies are generally laid back, easy to get along with and welcoming. We take pride in people enjoying our country when they are here. It's important to us that they go away with good experiences and memories... and we hope they come back again.

About the only thing we are generally intolerant of in our country is idiots and BS. Ethnicity and skin color don't even come into it.

IRM



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:32 AM
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Well said infra!
Question: Whom are we calling Aussies within this debate?
If Answered: Anyone with citizenship, thats cool!
One Point to consider: Does the newly appointed Australian Citizen embrace the concept of non-descriminantry, new-world Australianism???

You see, Australia has been re-invented over the past 20 years to appear as this friendly bounty to anyone that wishes to immigrate; in sopme respects that is true.
The only thing ( to my knowledge) that we asked as a people, was; that you contribute positively to the new society YOU have decided to join and assimulate with, and that YOU leave your racial and political infighting back in the "Mother-land".
Essentially; that you can carry out the pre-stated points, and carry yourself and decree 'I AM AUSTRALIAN'; not Greek-Australian, Lebanese-Australian, Italian-Australian ETC......After all; I dont walk around stating that I am English, Scottish, German, Norwegian-Australian.

First: Be truthful to where your affiliations lye...
Secondly: Turn-coats need not apply
Thirdly and most important: Find out who actually perpetrated the crime(s) before you go pointing the finger as to whiom committed them and as to what was the motivation.

As I remember from first hand experience: In India 'whites' are held with little esteem!!!
How about we find out who is responsible, before accussing any particular sector of the community.
Yes....1) I am white
2) I believe that I have put up with more than my share of racial 'molly-codling', over the years
3) I am prepared to see anyone excell, regardless of their cultural background; so long as they are an up-standing, caring and progressive member of my community (not for their own agenda)

4) I wish immigrants at large, immigated to my country to make a positive difference, rather than seeing it as an easy target to suck the blood from.
If all immigrants came to make a positive difference to my country rather than only coming here as an 'economic refugee', this country would be ahead by leaps and bounds.
I am sure there will be many rationalizations over these comments; lets be truthful though!!!! Can we be???
I doubt it......And; I had no choice, I was born here (if thats an avenue for arguement).

Those that are proud, and have contributed in a positive manner ( Not by trying to re-shape Australia as your modern 'Holiday-Home' Home-land ); I love and respect you
.....those that are of the other ilk(rapists); you make me sick, you should be ashamed of yourselves...and I am ashamed that the government that I had a hand in electing should be so lazy to let you in.


[edit on 1/20/2010 by KRISKALI777]



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:34 AM
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Most aussies I have met have been sound- the country seems like one helluva great place to live, put it this way, I don't see too many Aussies emigrating to India



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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Well why would we bother?
Most Australians are quite happy with being Australian, it seems that loads of foreigners want to live here too.
If I were a foreigner ( thank god I'm not), I guess I would want to live in the best country on Earth). LOL.
Back to reality for a second: This is a great country; it could have been greater except for the A.H. governments that we have had the have raped us financially and productively over the years, in the best interests of NWO conquest... nowhere is safe. (Except for those last bastions beyond the life-sucking tenticles).
For what my grandfather fought for....GONE.

Unfortunately, solidarity will never be seen again in this country. Solidarity of the people was our strength.
Multiculturalism promotes ethnic enclaves, non-assimulation and thus; NO SOLIDARITY.
OUR GOVT. LOVES THIS!!!!!



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 06:55 AM
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I'm not sure if you took my comment as an attack on Australia, it wasn't (perhaps I have misread your response lol)


On your point about multi culturalism, I totally agree- we in Britain have been on the receiving end of this traitorous extremist ideology for decades, so much so, London is no longer a British city


So many traitors......................



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:03 AM
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I don't mean to tar all Aussies with the same brush but there are some down under that need a good spanking for being racist!

For IRM and others who live in denial mode, here's something for you guys. This from the horse's mouth...


'Indians racially attacked in Aus for past 2 yrs'
20 Jan 2010, 1336 hrs IST, AGENCIES.

Victoria's top cop on Wednesday (January 20) said crime against Indians was a problem which was noticed by police two years ago. Indians are over-represented in robbery statistics and there is a racist element to some attacks, Chief Commissioner Simon Overland said, according to media reports in Melbourne.

"There is no question, regardless of the motives, Indian students have to a degree been targeted in robberies and that is not okay," he said.

"We recognised this problem a long time before it hit the public. We have known for two years that there has been this issue and we have been working away, at a number of levels around engaging with students, trying to make them understand the risks and how they keep themselves safe."

Overland said police had detailed data on attacks involving Indians and said that while Indians were over represented when it came to robberies, the same could not be said for assaults.

About 50 per cent of assaults on Indians occurred in their workplace, mostly involving taxi drivers and convenience store clerks, he said.

Overland said some of the attacks were racist. "I have said from day one undoubtedly some of these attacks have a racist motive or there is racist elements to these attacks," he said.


Not only the top cop but even Australia's ex Army Chief.....


CANBERRA: Australia's former military chief has characterized recent attacks on Indian students as racially motivated, rejecting Canberra's official line that the violence has been purely criminal rather than racist.

The attacks over the past 18 months, including a fatal stabbing of a 1-year-old Indian graduate this month, have strained ties with India and hurt Australia's lucrative foreign student market, its third largest export earner.

"If you didn't suspect a racial strand you'd be mad," high-profile former general Peter Cosgrove told The Age newspaper on Tuesday night after delivering a speech on race relations.


Will IRM and Co finally agree that these were racist attacks? Your top cop and ex Army chief say so! Now where's the doubt? Still want to deny facts?


timesofindia.indiatimes.com...
www.timesnow.tv...



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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you will get racist attacks in any country where different races interact, Australia is no worse than India in this regard - put it this way, I don't think AUstralians have killed thousands of their fellow citizens in religious violence in the last 20 years



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder
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put it this way, I don't think AUstralians have killed thousands of their fellow citizens in religious violence in the last 20 years


Please don't compare religion with racism.



posted on Feb, 2 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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Ahem...enjoy your crow, race-baiters.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



Burned Indian man 'faked attack' 3 February 2010 AAP AN Indian man who said he was set alight by assailants near his Melbourne home last month accidentally burned himself while torching his car for an insurance claim, police allege. Jaspreet Singh, 29, of Grice Crescent, Essendon, in the city's north, faced an out-of-sessions hearing early today before a bail justice at St Kilda Road police complex charged with making a false report to police and criminal damage with a view to gaining a financial advantage.

tools.goldcoast.com.au...





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[edit on 2/3/2010 by AshleyD]



posted on Feb, 3 2010 @ 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by riley

www.theage.com.au...
The wife of an Indian man allegedly set alight in a late-night attack in Essendon has rejected media reports that his injuries may have been self-inflicted.

Jaspreet Singh suffered burns to 15 per cent of his body during the alleged attack in Essendon on Friday night.

His wife, Paramjeet Kaur, today said the 29-year-old was improving but was still unable to speak.

She ridiculed suggestions that he would set himself alight.

"Why would he burn himself, why would he do that?" she said.

"I do not know why they are saying that."

Police are waiting to reinterview Mr Singh, who remains in a stable condition in The Alfred hospital, over the alleged attack.

I'm a bit confused by this. So he is unable to speak now? He was certainly able to tell police and media that he went and parked his car in another street after dropping his wife at home, said he was then attacked by 4 men and set on fire.. so whats changed about his injuries now that prevents him from being able to speak to police again?

I just saw a clip on the news where he's coming out of court to face the cameras and he says in perfect english "Sorry I don't speak english". His muteness must come and go I guess.. he can't really blame the burns anymore.


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posted on Feb, 3 2010 @ 02:54 AM
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I hope this piece of slime is deported from Australia, courtesy of the Indian Tax Payer post haste. I also hope the Victorian Judicial System throw the book at the prick (Jaspreet Singh) for costing Australia millions in lost revenue and sullying our good name and cultural identity.


IRM


[edit on 3/2/10 by InfaRedMan]



posted on Feb, 3 2010 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by munkey66

Will you be the first to appologize if this turns out to be an attack on an Indian by Indians or by Asians or even African Americans?
or are you going to hide behind this is a hate crime rather than race?



Absolutely.

Will you if it turns out to be a race issue?

By the way I never stated that it was in "fact" carried out by "White Australians" as a HATE/RACE crime. We started to split hairs over the "Possibility" Where you seemed to be in denial of even the possibility. All I was trying to convey is that it seemed that the attack was possibly racially motivated and if in fact it was then it seemed to be on the increase.


Originally posted by Dock9

Burned Indian man 'faked attack'

3 February 2010 AAP


AN Indian man who said he was set alight by assailants near his Melbourne home last month accidentally burned himself while torching his car for an insurance claim, police allege.


tools.goldcoast.com.au...


There have been several threads in ATS describing Indian migrants within Australia as being 'victims of Australian racism'


In one case, the Indian was murdered by fellow Indians

Now, the truth of the second case has come to light (see headline)
[edit on 2-2-2010 by Dock9]


Looks like it wasn't a race crime after all



posted on Feb, 3 2010 @ 04:48 PM
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Hehe, his last name is Singh. Well - he sure does.



posted on Feb, 3 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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Well there has been a lot of agro spewed in this thread,now that the facts show he was a low down fraudster that screwed up.Where is the arm-chair heroes now?

Think it may be apology time?



posted on Feb, 12 2010 @ 03:59 AM
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Hey Guys\Gals....
Here is an interesting and factual up-date to this story.
I think most whom have used this as an opportunity to call Aussie overtly racialist...will be unpleasantly surprised....



posted on Feb, 12 2010 @ 04:02 AM
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And.........Here is another recent GEM!!!!




Have a look a few posts back.....didn't I say this?

What say you Slayer 69?



posted on Feb, 12 2010 @ 04:06 AM
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G'day KRISKALI777

And that, as they say, is that.

This was always just an excuse to "bash an Aussie"!

There was never any story at all.....none at all.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



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