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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
There is nothing truthful there to support your point that restricted also means guarded.
How many sites must i post before you can admit the fact that restricted also means guarded?
Originally posted by weedwhackerThing is, when you try to tell this nonsense to pilots who know better, it doesn't look good for you.
Originally posted by pteridine
Yes. But the original statement about "most guarded...in the world" was wrong in 2001 and is still wrong.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
Still, didn't stop the guy in the Cessna in 1994 from crashing on the White House lawn...tech.mit.edu...)
Oh, and what about the German pilot who landed a Cessna in Red Square, in Moscow?!? ??
Surely the Russians have as much interest in "guarding" the airpace around THEIR Capitol, too???
Or is it too hard to admit you are wrong?
Originally posted by REMISNE
Maybe becasue at the time they were not considered a threat, ever think about that?
Is it to hard to admit you are wrong?
Originally posted by REMISNE
Originally posted by pteridine
Yes. But the original statement about "most guarded...in the world" was wrong in 2001 and is still wrong.
And your proof is ?
Originally posted by GenRadek
And the "truth" movement just shot itself in the foot. Unless you expect me to believe that Flight 93 was in fact "remote controlled" and no one was on board, and they somehow "lost control" with it and THATS why it had to be shot down. Well that still makes no sense because all they'd have to do is let the plane fly out of control until it lost its gas and crashed outta fuel wherever. And then THAT way the "OS" would be, the terrorist hijackers lost their way and ran out of fuel and crashed.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by REMISNE
Repeating from above....
Still, didn't stop the guy in the Cessna in 1994 from crashing on the White House lawn...tech.mit.edu...)
Oh, and what about the German pilot who landed a Cessna in Red Square, in Moscow?!? ??
Surely the Russians have as much interest in "guarding" the airpace around THEIR Capitol, too???
Or is it too hard to admit you are wrong?
The young girl was Cecelia Cichan, a 4-year-old traveling, in seat 8F, with her parents and older brother, on a return flight from a visit to her grandparents in nearby Warminster. She had third-degree burns over 30 percent of her body, suffered a broken leg, and experienced difficulty breathing.
"Her survival was due to being padded by her mother, at least we assume it was her mother," said Pam Davidson, one of the paramedics present when Cichan was found. "There was debris everywhere and there was no way to determine if the wreckage was part of the plane or another vehicle."
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Donny 4 million
Mr. Donny, you must be as familiar as I (and many of my other colleagues, in the airline business) am with many, many, many other airliner accidents, and the results in order to fully understand and comprehend, as most of us do, the events of 9/11.
For instance, many keep asking HOW small items such as passports, credit and debit cards, driver's licenses, other papers, etc can survive an horrific crash....when actgually this is NOT limited to the events of 9/11, has been seen many, manmy times, just not mentioned in same way, since no "controversy" usually exists in most accident investigations.
BUT, how about a tiny four-year-old girl as the ONLY survivor of a terrible airliner accident? Impossible?? Improbable?? Actualy happened. HOW? WHY?
The young girl was Cecelia Cichan, a 4-year-old traveling, in seat 8F, with her parents and older brother, on a return flight from a visit to her grandparents in nearby Warminster. She had third-degree burns over 30 percent of her body, suffered a broken leg, and experienced difficulty breathing.
"Her survival was due to being padded by her mother, at least we assume it was her mother," said Pam Davidson, one of the paramedics present when Cichan was found. "There was debris everywhere and there was no way to determine if the wreckage was part of the plane or another vehicle."
www.check-six.com...
This is just one example, well documented. I suggest it as required reading, for a start......
Originally posted by pteridine
Shooting at such a threat has hazards also. Wreckage and missile parts or projectiles falling into a densely populated area could cause serious damage and for no reason if the pilot had made an error, was confused or had some sort of medical emergency. Getting approval to shoot may take much longer than the flight time to impact. I'd guess that standing orders have been clarified and small craft approaching the White House now have a "dead line" of some sort.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
For instance, many keep asking HOW small items such as passports, credit and debit cards, driver's licenses, other papers, etc can survive an horrific crash....when actgually this is NOT limited to the events of 9/11, has been seen many, manmy times, just not mentioned in same way, since no "controversy" usually exists in most accident investigations.
Originally posted by Donny 4 million
This is exactly what shows the OS to be false.
If the aircraft was to come to the earth in any typical manner there would be evidence that would refute the entire concocted 911 scenario. There would be passengers bodies, there would be hijackers bodied some still possibly alive. That is how aircraft crash.
Show me any other aircraft crash that resembles the Shanksville hoax. You cannot.