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Spring food crisis may trigger economic collapse

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posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Spring food crisis may trigger economic collapse


www.homelandstupidity.us

You have maybe two months to stock up on the necessities of life before food prices rise dramatically, potentially prompting a food panic, widespread famine, and quite possibly the long-expected collapse of the U.S. economy. Farmers across America and in many other parts of the world are calling 2009 the worst harvest they’ve ever seen in their lives, owing largely to extended bouts of bad weather.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Now, don't shoot the messenger...and I know some people will even with this disclaimer....

I am just posting this information from another website. i am not the author, and I am not prompting anyone to do what they claim at the following website.

Take it for what it is, a warning of what could happen because of a lack of food which COULD occur soon, maybe it won't.

Even the poster of this message says do what you think you should do...nothing more, and nothing less.

This is part of what the poster of this message has to say.


It seems China has finally figured out what to do with all the U.S. dollars it’s holding. You’ll recall that the Federal Reserve took some pretty extreme measures over the last two years, ostensibly to save the U.S. economy. In fact, those measures have set us up the bomb. For decades China has been buying U.S. debt and financing Americans’ credit addiction as well as the government’s massive spending on millions of projects it has no business being involved in. But, it seems, they’ve had enough of the dollar and are about to pull the plug.

In the meantime, China has been using those dollars to buy every morsel of American food it can get its hands on. Combined with 2009’s bad weather and the USDA’s ridiculous numbers, this prompted a late August soybean shortage which is expected to continue through 2010.

The U.S. has a very good reason to fudge the numbers on crop estimates. If it published realistic numbers, and crop futures prices rose sharply, three things would likely happen: Wall Street would take massive losses, inflation fears would cause investors to dump bonds, frustrating the government’s attempts to finance its incredible expanding debt, and most importantly, China, whose currency is tied closely to the U.S. dollar, would allow it to appreciate. That alone would likely send the U.S. dollar into freefall; all three would mean utter economic collapse.

Of course, you can’t fool the market for long; as noted above, futures prices are already well above the USDA’s numbers. All they really managed to do with their numbers game was buy the U.S. dollar another year of life.

One market analyst believes that the 2010 food shortage will be the catalyst which not only brings about the collapse of the U.S. economy, but takes down Great Britain and Japan with it.

While a food crisis was unavoidable to some extent because of the abnormal weather and financial crisis, the total panic which will soon grip world agricultural markets is a creation of the USDA and its fictitious production estimates. If not for the USDA’s interference, food prices would have risen in the first half of 2009 in anticipation of the 2009/10 shortage. The United States Department of Agriculture has caused incalculable damage to the world economy by encouraging overconsumption of rapidly diminishing food supplies.

Once the 2010 Food Crisis starts, confidence in the US government will be shattered as a result of the USDA’s faulty estimates. The starvation and misery caused by higher food prices will also create a lot of anger . . . — Market Skeptics

Take it for what it is... You can buy some extra food slowly and store it, or you can just live your life happily as if nothing is happening at all and all is good...

It is the PERSONAL decision of every INDIVIDUAL....

It is YOUR CHOICE and you shouldn't be blaming anyone for the choices you make but yourself.


www.homelandstupidity.us
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:14 PM
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I can totally believe it, i honestly think we are headed toward collapse here and this will be a major player in the collapse.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:20 PM
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DANG YOU OP! HOW CAN YOU POST STUFF LIKE THIS! ok..... j/k


I could see it as plausible except the part about china buying up all of our food. They can have all our soy beans, soy is horrible for you anyway.

Nice find and thank you for sharing.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:22 PM
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we've seen this before

remember the water shortage scare?
remember all teh threads

remember the rice shortage scare?
remember all the threads



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
we've seen this before

remember the water shortage scare?
remember all teh threads

remember the rice shortage scare?
remember all the threads


A broken clock is still right twice a day. I agree with you that this will probably come and go but I would hate to be the people who get eaten in the boy who cried wolf story because I never prepared that what he said may have been right.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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As I said...it is YOUR choice... We are having bad weather all over the northern hemisphere, last year the food harvest were really bad, and I posted on another thread some of what was lost.

Water is more easily available than food... You have to GROW food...water all you have to do is go to the closest river/lake...

We are in an economic crisis and the naysayers were claiming just like you are now "bah it is not going to happen"....and we are still in it, and it is getting worse because other problems.... But like I said, at the end it is YOUR INDIVIDUAL choice to do as you think best.

[edit on 8-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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Wait, are you suggesting the mark of the beast?

create a food shortage, people will panic and steal food or money from people so only way to address it is with something implanted in your right hand or forehead?

Is that what you are suggesting?



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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Wait, are you suggesting the mark of the beast?

create a food shortage, people will panic and steal food or money from people so only way to address it is with something implanted in your right hand or forehead?

Is that what you are suggesting?



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 01:02 PM
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After reading some of the article and some of the below comments (in the article), it may just be another thing to spread more fear.

The only thing we can do is wait and see...

[edit on 8-1-2010 by Quickfix]



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 01:13 PM
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This from another source

"If you read any economic, financial, or political analysis for 2010 that doesn’t mention the food shortage looming next year, throw it in the trash, as it is worthless. There is overwhelming, undeniable evidence that the world will run out of food next year. When this happens, the resulting triple digit food inflation will lead panicking central banks around the world to dump their foreign reserves to appreciate their currencies and lower the cost of food imports, causing the collapse of the dollar, the treasury market, derivative markets, and the global financial system. The US will experience economic disintegration."

Food crisis for dummies


This site is very interesting and has a map of disaster zones declared by the president.

If you aren't stocked up I would be starting. I mean really what do you have to lose but a little storage space?
Most Americans have more storage or Christmas decorations than they do food!



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 01:59 PM
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well lets see 10 cases of ramen noodles 10 cases of pork n beans 24 cans to a case. 100 cans each of cream style corn , lima beans , le seur very early peas ,30 cans or hormel chilli, a fishing rod plenty of bait. a 308 with 200 rounds a 12 gauge with 100 riunds . i think i am pretty well stocked maybe buy some chicks a few baby rabbits and build a hen house and a rabbit hutch for some extra meat.



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 12:35 PM
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I wasn't suggesting that exactly as you say, but something like it could very well be on the works.

We have an economic crisis which was caused thanks to the plans of the Socialist elites, and they are claiming in order to solve the crisis to have a One World Socialist Government/economy.

Not only that, we have been having bad harvests all over the world because of NATURAL Climate Change, and what plans do the elites have?... The indoctrination of making people believe mankind, and CO2 are responsible for the NATURAL Climate Change.. We found out, appart from the the tons of research that contradicts the AGW SCAM, that the main proponent scientists were rigging the data, trying anything, and everything to keep people in the dark and not allow them to get the original program, and data through the FOIA, but rather to give out only the rigged data. They also talked about discrediting anyone, and everyone who dared to doubt the AGW SCAM, talked about destroying data, and calls, etc, yet what do the Socialist elites still want?... to stop the increase and even to sequester atmospheric CO2, which means less harvests around the world....

How many threads, with evidence do we haqve in these same boards that the Socialist elites want depopulation of the world?...

You actually think it is not all related?



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 12:40 PM
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But what about all those people living around you that haven't prepared. If I were you I'd stock up on some more ammo. You're going to need it. And are you willing to kill a lot of people to protect your food stores?

That's teh problem.............not many people own enough land to be self sufficient anymore. There are TONS of people living dependently on the system in cities and towns all over the country. Trust me........a mad rush of people from NYC into a small New York town of well prepared individuals would cause major outbreak of violence. If food shortages become the norm things will get nasty. People will rob each other for shoes in the US......there's no telling what people will do for food.



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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Agreed, this is a country where during the Holiday season it is not uncommon to see "Shopper trampled to death".

Now take the desire that people have to make their little snowflakes xmas and multiple that by their desire to keep them alive and youve got yourself a situation one catalystic event away from its tipping point.



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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Not bad, but why not add some Non-Genetically Modified & Non-Hybrid Seeds?

What if the system fails so bad that there won't be much food after you finish those cans?

Again, do what you think you must do, but with the plans that the elites seem to have, there won't be much food production. Less atmospheric CO2 means much less harvests around the world, and less food means more starvation.

It is not going to happen today, or next week, but there are several plans to start sequestering atmospheric CO2.

I was invited to be part of a team in Florida to test different methods of atmospheric CO2 sequestration.

I also learned through my Senator, that the goverment has plans to work with Universities to find viable methods of atmospheric CO2 sequestration.

There are state legislation being passed to this same goal...atmospheric CO2 sequestration. This will end badly if it continues.

A lot of people are jumping once again in the bandwagon thinking "it is for the best" but it actually will be for the worst for nature, for the flora, and fauna of the world, and definetedly it will be worse for mankind.

For example, here is one article about one method being used to sequester atmospheric CO2.

www1.voanews.com...

[edit on 11-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 01:03 PM
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This is something that I've always wondered about. If we want to tackle the greenhouse gas effects or increasing amounts of CO2 PLANT MORE TREES, MORE FAUNA, MORE PLANTS etc..............living things like trees suck up CO2 and give off oxygen. Oh wait............not cutting down forests and planting more trees, plants, and fauna and not destroying the CO2 eating rain forests would make too much sense. I swear human beings are the stupidest creatures in the world despite all our technology and so called innovation.



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 01:22 PM
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Except that if you only plant more trees they will eventually take all the atmospheric CO2, and without an increase in atmospheric CO2, the green biomass of Earth would starve.

There is no proof whatsoever that atmospheric CO2 causes the warming claimed by the AGW proponents, and the scientist scammers...

There is however tons of evidence that shows that higher levels of atmospheric CO2 makes plants, trees, and essentially the entire green biomass of Earth to grow bigger, and stronger, producing more harvests/food to feed animals and mankind.

This is a no brainer... Yet the disinformation and brainwashing tactics of the elites have worked, and many people believe the lies of the elites.



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 01:28 PM
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When I say trees I'm implying forests meaning plants, trees, shrubs, grasses etc..........green biomass. I should have differentiated because you are right. There's a difference between simply trees and green biomass. I'm talking more about whole ecosystems i.e. forests especially the rain forests. But you can't expect to keep green biomass and then turn around and use that "green biomass" to grow more crops and feed more people. Then you're just growing the Earth's population creating more problems some of which are the same. It's a vicious cycle. If we can keep our Earth ecosystems intact that will help curb population.

Population growth is a no brainer and the biggest detriment and obstacle to keeping this planet healthy and ecologically viable. Just like capitalism......there comes a point of diminishing returns.......you can't have year over year profits forever just like you can't have century over century of population growth. We will overcrowd the Earth eventually. Especially if everyone wants to live like Americans
LOL.



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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BTW, do you know what else does more CO2 do to plants, and in essence the entire green biomass on land? It increases the efficient use of water. Which means harvests would need less water which is also something that we need.

We have a big problem with the fact that we don't have enough potable water, and this will only get worse in the future, and will get much worse by sequestering atmospheric CO2.

Why don't they target the real pollutants in smog like nitrogen oxides (NOx) sulfur dioxide (SO2) methane (CH4) peroxyacyl nitrates (PAN) Volatile organic compounds (VOCs) and aldehydes (RCHO)?

It is safe to sequester those gases which form the smog that plagues big cities in the world, and most of these are the gases that cause health problems.

Also nitrous oxides/nitrogen oxide as a greenhouse gas has 298 times more impact per unit weight than atmospheric CO2. Sulfur oxide and nitrogen oxydes combining with carbon produce acid rain. If you sequester sulfur oxide, and nitrogen oxydes there won't be any acid rain.

Those are the gases that the Earth, and humans are better off without, but atmospheric CO2, just like carbon, is needed for life on Earth to thrive, including the environment which benefits with atmospheric CO2 levels at 1,200 ppm to 1,500 ppm which will solve the problems of not enough food, and not enough water for us humans.

But the elites want "depopulation"...and what better way than to indoctrinate people into believing mankind and CO2 is the problem?

Essentially people will agree to have plans to sequester atmospheric CO2 not knowing that the purpose of this is to starve people out...or "depopulate the Earth"...

[edit on 11-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]



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