Jan, 26, 2010 Obama Going To Trial On His Illegal Alien Status

Originally posted by emmiem
I do believe you're the one that's having the rant, randomly tossing the race card around. We are all incredibly politically correct here in the UK having been trained to obey our Great Socialist Leader from infancy, so trust me no one gives a winkies toss if your president is pink, blue, black, white, yellow or any other shade of primary colour.

Nobody cares what color he is? I am glad you are in contact with everyone so you can do me a favor then. Can you please ask some of that everyone to stop sending me emails about watermelon on the white house lawn or KFC foodstamps or African witch doctor BS in relation to the current president? I would really appreciate that. I have not had the chance to talk to everyone myself so I was assuming that the torrent of racist 'jokes' and emails I get from my neocon friends meant that there was some...well racism involved. You say no so cool. Just ask them to stop sending me things that are overtly racist in tone since it kind of makes it look like there is a race issue involved. Thanks.

Originally posted by ziggystrange
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This swearing in story, why don't you substantiate your point.

Show us you fact based logic.

Ziggy

Story? There is no story, it's a fact!
Obama's first inauguration was a flub. It may have intentional or it may have been accidental but it is what it is, a flub.
There were millions present to watch him get sworn in and for what?
It didn't even count.
Talk about a major DOH!
They did the do-over the following day, and nobody was present.
Who knows if anything was added or removed from the standard oath.

He took an oath alright, but to do what?
He obviously is not keeping any of the promises he made while he was campaigning.

reply to post by Alxandro


That is so sad it's completely laughable.

Oh they misspoke, golly gee willikers, that means Obama didn't really take the oath! There were people in attendance. Who the hell do you think took the damn picture for crying out loud?

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A formality that required a do-over.
This enough is highly suspicious if you ask me.
The video we see of Obama taking the do-over oath the following day, he has his back to the camera. Nobody witnessed what he was sworn in to do. For all we know the audio track was over dubbed.
Classic move from TPTB.

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First off, the Origional oath actually did count, but Obama figured there would be someone like YOU who would question it, so they took it again in the white house. Overdubbed my ass.

He was actually taking an oath to me.

sad man, really sad.

In all fairness, here are some facts:

Obama hasn't presented a valid Birth Certificate

Obama and his legal staff can end all these debates and prove the birthers wrong if they just present the evidence.

Is Obama a Citizen of this country? No one knows. One side is trying to figure it out while many Americans hate them for asking questions...imagine that........ and the other side is sealing many documents and not being transparent like they promised. Why is that?

If we as a people stop asking questions...we're fu**ed.

If 911 can be planned and covered up.....why would you refuse to believe "the powers that be" can put a non citizen in a position of power like the white house? Anything is possible now people, please wake up.

I'm not saying Obama is an illegal because it hasn't been proven yet, but he hasn't proven that he is a citizen either....so dwell on that for a while.

Peace!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Lillydale

Originally posted by emmiem
I do believe you're the one that's having the rant, randomly tossing the race card around. We are all incredibly politically correct here in the UK having been trained to obey our Great Socialist Leader from infancy, so trust me no one gives a winkies toss if your president is pink, blue, black, white, yellow or any other shade of primary colour.

Nobody cares what color he is? I am glad you are in contact with everyone so you can do me a favor then. Can you please ask some of that everyone to stop sending me emails about watermelon on the white house lawn or KFC foodstamps or African witch doctor BS in relation to the current president? I would really appreciate that. I have not had the chance to talk to everyone myself so I was assuming that the torrent of racist 'jokes' and emails I get from my neocon friends meant that there was some...well racism involved. You say no so cool. Just ask them to stop sending me things that are overtly racist in tone since it kind of makes it look like there is a race issue involved. Thanks.

Sorry to hear you're getting a torrent of racist 'jokes' and emails. I don't have any friends who send stuff like that relating to a persons skin colour so have no idea what to suggest other than perhaps finding more intelligent 'friends' with funnier jokes. Having said that maybe some people just are overly sensitive about everything. For instance we had a little book on sale over here a few years ago with all the 'sayings' of President Bush which had us screwed up and rolling about with laughter for hours on end. I didn't see the PC brigade out patrolling alongside the thought police about that.

My response was to the poster who accuses me of racism regardless of the fact that I am talking about a birth certificate, on a thread about a birth certificate, NOT the colour of someones skin. The race card is thrown about a lot and is the recognized standard trademark of a shill who knows they're on shaky ground without a valid argument and simply wants to close the discussion down.

The timing is curious. It's possible that the shiit is going to hit the fan around Jan 15th. So Obama resigning would put the US into a tailspin which might be part of a plan.
Or it could be that Obama claims the US for Islam when he does present his Kenyan birth certificate.
Love this topic, history would be so much cooler with a scandal.

Originally posted by Spykemann
In all fairness, here are some facts:
Obama hasn't presented a valid Birth Certificate

that is not a fact, that is a lie

Obama and his legal staff can end all these debates and prove the birthers wrong if they just present the evidence.

they have, but the birthers refuse to accept reality

Is Obama a Citizen of this country?

yes he is, he was born in Hawaii

No one knows.

wrong, even the birthers know he was born in Hawaii, they just refuse to accept that Obama was elected POTUS

and the other side is sealing many documents and not being transparent like they promised.

except his birth certificate is on display...

Why is that?

Because some birthers refuse to accept a black man is POTUS

If 911 can be planned and covered up

Except it was not

but he hasn't proven that he is a citizen either.

Yes he has, which is why he will remain the POTUS until the next election

[edit on 10/1/10 by dereks]

Originally posted by emmiem
Sorry to hear you're getting a torrent of racist 'jokes' and emails. I don't have any friends who send stuff like that relating to a persons skin colour so have no idea what to suggest other than perhaps finding more intelligent 'friends' with funnier jokes.

Believe me, that thought crosses my mind all the time. The problem is that most of my friends and I have all known each other 20+ years so history and friendship still outweighs the places in which some have grown and some have not. It is not perfect but neither is my handicapped nephew but I will not stop opening his emails any time soon either.

The point was...you said that NO ONE cares about the color of his skin. While I agree that calling anyone that dislikes him racist is pretty stupid since there are plenty of reasons for a person to hate a president, democrat, politician, man, liar, whatever else you would like to add to the list of things befitting all presidents in my lifetime. So I agree it is not all about racism. The problem is when people like you claim that there is no racism involved at all. There is plenty, and I can show it to you.

Having said that maybe some people just are overly sensitive about everything. For instance we had a little book on sale over here a few years ago with all the 'sayings' of President Bush which had us screwed up and rolling about with laughter for hours on end. I didn't see the PC brigade out patrolling alongside the thought police about that.

I am not sure I see your point. Are you comparing a book making fun of stupid statements to something akin to mocking a man's race? Last time I checked, G.W. got to choose whether or not he said stupid things on camera or in front of reporters. Obama is kind of stuck being half black. Maybe I just missed your point because I do agree people are way too sensitive. I like to think I am not one of them and that is why I can overlook my dear friends mental shortcomings.

My response was to the poster who accuses me of racism regardless of the fact that I am talking about a birth certificate, on a thread about a birth certificate, NOT the colour of someones skin. The race card is thrown about a lot and is the recognized standard trademark of a shill who knows they're on shaky ground without a valid argument and simply wants to close the discussion down.

I will half agree with you here. I think it is tossed out all too often, all to easily, and usually with no basis in reality. That does not mean it is the trademark of a shill since some of us are actually aware of the very deep racism running through this country right now. It is real. It is out there. It is the only reason some people have for hating him. This really happens. Your response was that nobody cares what color he is.

I am just pointing out that in fact, many people are far too concerned with what color he is.

If you do not think that racism is alive and well in U.S. politics, just think about how many times you saw Harry Reid mentioned in the last month. How many of those were just since this "Negro" comment thing blew up in his face? Lots and lots of people are actually only concerned with the man's race.

The reason people link racism to the BC issue is because of the country of origin. Basically the message being sent is that he is not only not American, he is AFRICAN!!!!! Do you see how the word Kenya dominates the discussion about the legitimacy of and American president? You do not see the racist propaganda value in that? If he is not American or fit to be president of the U.S. then that is a U.S. thing to discuss about the president of the U.S. and how he fooled the people of the U.S. and the government of the U.S. Yet, what I read is "KENYA KENYA KENYA KENYA."

So... you have the fact that there are indeed racists in the states still. There are indeed people who aim that racism at our president. There are people that flaunt it broadly all over the internet. Read youtube comments sometimes. You can usually count the "N" word more than any reference to the actual video in posts. You add that to these "news" items that keep pushing his KENYAN heritage on you and viola! If it looks like racism, walks like racism, and talks like racism, there is a good chance that it has something to do with some racism.

I am all for questioning legitimacy if you really believe there is an issue. There is not. He has release his B.C. for all to see. People like you refuse to believe that. You can look at yourself and you still insist it is fake or forged or computer generated. You can read statements from all the proper officials but you dismiss that all with no justification. Yet you believe there is an issue based on...................?

Each one of those periods is usually me waiting for the person to come up with a reason besides some racist joke. I am sure you are a far better person than that. You must be intellectually supperior to my friends. I cannot get any of them to just believe nonsense based on nothing but a crazy Russian real estate agent who keeps getting kicked out of court for failing to properly practice law. It must take a special kind of genius for that. Kudos to you and your vast superiority to my friends who simply hate the man for something stupid but at least they can prove he is half black.

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See, here's the major thing you are missing. Barakah Hussain Obama was born to a muslim father, that makes him a muslim. Further, he attended a madrassas in Indonesia which also makes him part of the muslim community. So as far as Islam is concerned, he is one of their subjects. Now what happens next is he is invited back to Islam, since he ventured into a Christian church. If he refuses to go back to Islam he then becomes an apostate.

While it matters his legality in the US, more importantly is the view from Islam and where he belongs. Especially since we are at war with AQ. There are many Islamic principles that make a big difference and will become very important in the next few months in the conflict with the US.

Originally posted by Spykemann
If 911 can be planned and covered up.....why would you refuse to believe "the powers that be" can put a non citizen in a position of power like the white house? Anything is possible now people, please wake up.

You just answered your own question. Think about it, they can pull off and cover up 9/11 but they cannot just fake a B.C. to shut you all up or stop this before it even started?

Seriously, why would such a clever and adept government let this go on and on when all it needs is to personalize a birth certificate to each and every one of your specific little standards.


P.S. Please stop saying he has not shown it when it has been pointed out over and over again that he has. If you are going to deny evidence, you have to at the very least try to debunk it as valid evidence. Just ignoring shows agenda driven thinking.