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The orchestrated attempts to turn people against him have only convinced me he is a danger to people the country would be better off without.
We Americans harbor a quaint belief that a new president takes charge of a government that eagerly awaits his next command. Like an orchestra conductor or perhaps a football coach, he can inspire or bludgeon and get what he wants. But that's not how things work at the top, especially where "national security" is concerned. The Pentagon and CIA are powerful and independent fiefdoms characterized by entrenched agendas and constant intrigue. They are full of lifers, who see an elected president largely as an annoyance, and have ways of dealing with those who won't come to heel.
Those who do not kowtow to the spies and generals have had a bumpy ride. FDR and Truman both faced insubordination. Dwight Eisenhower, who had served as chief of staff of the US Army, left the White House warning darkly about the "military industrial complex." (He of all presidents had reasons to know.) John Kennedy was repeatedly countermanded and double-crossed by his own supposed subordinates. The Joint Chiefs baited him; Allen Dulles despised him (more so after JFK fired him over the Bay of Pigs fiasco), and Henry Cabot Lodge, his ambassador to South Vietnam, deliberately undermined Kennedy's agenda. Kennedy called the trigger-happy generals "mad" and spoke angrily to aides of "scattering the CIA to the wind." The evidence is growing that he suffered the consequences.
Those who avoided problems - Johnson, Reagan, Bush Sr. and Jr. - were chief executives that made no problems for the Pentagon and intelligence chiefs. All embraced military and covert operations, expanded wars or launched their own. The agile Bill Clinton was a special case - no babe in the woods, he focused on domestic gains and pretty much steered clear of the hornets' nest.
As for the Bushes, their ascension represented a seizure of power by the national security state itself. Their family had profited from arms manufacturing for decades. The patriarch, Prescott Bush, monitored US assassination plots against foreign leaders as a senator; and records indicate that the elder George Bush had been a secret agency operative for decades before he became CIA director - and then, 12 years later, president.
www.thirdworldtraveler.com...
Each member country maintains a National Central Bureau (NCB) staffed by national law enforcement officers. The NCB is the designated contact point for the Interpol General Secretariat, regional bureau and other member countries requiring assistance with overseas investigations and the location and apprehension of fugitives. This is especially important in countries with many law-enforcement agencies. This central bureau is a unique point of contact for foreign entities, which may not understand the complexity of the law-enforcement system of the country they attempt to contact. For instance, the NCB for the United States of America is housed at the United States Department of Justice (DOJ). The NCB then ensures the proper transmission of information to the correct agency.
Interpol maintains a large database charting unsolved crimes and both convicted and alleged criminals. At any time, a member nation has access to specific sections of the database and its police forces are encouraged to check information held by Interpol whenever a major crime is committed. The rationale behind this is that drug traffickers and similar criminals have international ties, and so it is likely that crimes extend beyond political boundaries.
Originally posted by adamc3
I think the idea the this cabal of criminals have enough power to control every single news source in the world (except world reports) is crazy. But this is the reason that he gives for all of this not being covered by the media. If the author really had evidence and wanted to make a change he would make it all available on the internet.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Ah…. So much to say…
5 oClock as regards your post here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
My answer to these questions is that, IF this is true, it would be premature to start firing people without having the entire “take-down” organized. To start taking drastic actions would be the best way to scare people into hiding, start panic in the US government and therefore the world and give the cockroaches a chance to run and hide. I’m certain that the best way to do this is to get all the ducks in a row before you start shooting… It makes perfect sense to me that no action is being taken and nothing is ‘advertised’ on Interpol, the MSM or ANY public forum yet.
To those who are really interested in finding the truth behind this story, PLEASE stop fighting with (feeding) the trolls! It’s easy to skip over certain posters posts, knowing that they’re just here to slam Obama, with no real interest in finding the truth. But when you argue with them (feed them), it just makes more posts that we have to wade through to catch up. If you feed them, it just keeps them coming back, making what is probably going to be a long thread a lot longer with more crap to slug through. It’s tiring.
This was my reply when a poster asked why it's not on MSM:
reply to post by BiGGz
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Come on B,
If the man was about to bust your door down, they won't advertise.
I too would love to some hardcore evidence, but I also wanna have a few cocktails w/E.T. and throw the ball in the yard with bigfoot.
I guess we wait .
[edit on 8-1-2010 by 5 oClock]
Benevolent Heretic,
I appreciate your open mind, and research on this topic. Makes it a pleasure to be on ATS. I was bummed that last night on Keith O. he wasn't even in and nothing wa mentioned.
Originally posted by 5 oClock
If the man was about to bust your door down, they won't advertise.
I appreciate your open mind, and research on this topic. Makes it a pleasure to be on ATS.
I was bummed that last night on Keith O. he wasn't even in and nothing wa mentioned.
‘Washington, DC: 5th January 2010: ... This was the gist of a report by Richard Wolf delivered in this evening’s edition of cable network’s MSNBC’s Countdown program, hosted by Keith Olbermann….
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Am I understanding that this document is stating that since Reagan, operatives within the government, especially within the Intelligence Community, and especially associated with Bush Sr. have been performing what amounts to financial terrorism against the US and Obama is trying to put a stop to it??? And this is why the Republicans are trying to stop everything he does?
I feel like an idiot.
Originally posted by kozmo
BH, I don't see this as much as a "Right/Left" political paradigm
This post is my evidence in case I go missing during the night or dont log back onto ATS (joke)
Originally posted by Angus123
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
Yes there have been black people at tea parties. Both of them were happy to be there
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by kozmo
BH, I don't see this as much as a "Right/Left" political paradigm
I don't either. Especially with the Clintons up to their armpits in it. My statement about Republicans was in reference to the current Republicans in Congress, not Republicans in general. IF this is true, they are operating on some orders from on high to STOP Obama at all costs, IMO.
I always found it curious that Bush Sr. and Clinton were such GRAND friends... This would explain that, too.