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Originally posted by osc121
Originally posted by BingeBob
So like I said before...The cause is just but the violent means are not
To ignore that britain shouldnt be there is foolish.
So by that argument, you would be quite happy to give New Mexico and California back to the Mexicans? even Texas maybe?
and also allow "indian Reservations" to become independent?
Originally posted by BingeBob
Questions that still remain are;
How do they know who was responsible for the bomb?
Why was this officer specifically targeted?
Could it have been a mistake or just a random act of violence?
There would have been a civil war had one part not broken away- the problem was that around 15% of the population of the republic was unionist/british/protestant and 30% of the population of NI was catholic/nationalist.
Now during that period the protestant population of ROI dwindled to 3% while the catholic population of NI has grown to over 40%- yet according to some bigots, it is NI where the discriimination lies.............
Originally posted by fatdad
reply to post by BingeBob
the republic of ireland would be kicked all the way back to the border.... the republican movement only operated so well because the police sheltered the republican community from loyalists..... the ira are a cowardly terrorist organization who only hit soft targets and when they do get into a firefight with the police or army end up dead or running away shouting dont shoot....
Originally posted by k0mbination
this is gettin out of hand, my partners 'baby' brother who's 17 and 6 foot 4 is constantly harrassed by the UD and other paramillatery's to join, often with the threat of violence if he dosn't. And it seems theres nothing you can do, the cops are too scared (fair enough) and the army is walking a tight rope on it. Lucky for him he's managed to avoid it by keeping his head down so to speak.
Originally posted by k0mbination
reply to post by the_denv
and the real ironic thing is he's Scottish!!!! He got the crap beaten out of him last year on the street two doors down from a cop shop by a bunch of grown men known to be with the UD, the cops wouldn't even open their door. Like all these so called 'troubles' wherever they are, it's hard to know the truth of the matter when it's hidden behind century's of miss-information and half truths, and it all seems so bloody pointless and a waste of life. Don't let anger get to you no matter what bro, it clouds your vision and turns your heart to stone. Yoda was right!
On 24 November 2006, at 11.16 am, Stone was arrested for attempting to enter the parliament buildings at Stormont armed with an imitation Beretta 92FS pistol, a knife and a "viable" bomb, after placing 8 "pipe bombs" within the grounds of Stormont. One male and one female civilian security guard disarmed him as he entered the building, by trapping him within the revolving doors of the main lobby entrance. The security guards were injured during the struggle with Stone. Following the security breach, the building was evacuated and an Army Bomb Disposal Unit was called to examine the suspect device. Before entering the building he had scrawled an incomplete graffiti stating "Sinn Féin IRA mur(derers)" on the Parliament building. Later examination from the bomb squad has revealed that the bag that Stone was carrying contained between 6 and 8 viable explosive devices. Sir Hugh Orde, the Chief Constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland, said "their potential for death, destruction and injury is being assessed" but added they were "fairly amateurish". On 19 December 2006, Stone's defence lawyer Arthur Harvey, QC, claimed on his behalf that the Stormont incident was not intended to endanger the life of anyone. "It was, in fact, a piece of performance art replicating a terrorist attack", claimed Harvey. During his trial in September 2008, on 13 charges including the attempted murder of Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness, Stone repeated that his actions were "an act of performance art".
The resumption of talks about power sharing and electing a First Minister between the parties at Stormont, which had only just resumed, had to be abandoned.
The then Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (Peter Hain) indicated that Stone's licence for release under the "Good Friday Agreement" would be revoked, and the full 638 year sentence for triple murder, terrorist charges and firearm charges be reimposed on him, in line with his sentencing in 1988.
Since his release in 1998, Stone has admitted to several other acts of terrorism, including murder. The Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) is currently drawing a case for these to be put to the judge in due course. On 25 November 2006, Stone appeared in court in Belfast charged with attempting to murder Sinn Féin leaders Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness. Stone faced a total of five charges of attempted murder following the incident at Stormont. He was also charged with possession of articles for terrorist purposes, possession of an imitation firearm, assault, grievous bodily harm, possession of an offensive weapon and possession of explosives. The court heard the articles allegedly for terrorist purposes included nailbombs, an axe and a garrotte. Michael Stone was remanded in custody until 22 December 2006.  A letter written by Stone was published in the Belfast Telegraph on 29 November 2006. In the letter dated 24 November 2006, Stone described his "mission to Kill" Adams and McGuinness in detail, giving a description of his intended movements once inside the building.
On 14 November he was found guilty of attempting to murder Sinn Féin leaders Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness. The judge said defence evidence that Stone had been taking part in some sort of a "comic parody" was "hopelessly unconvincing" and "self-contradictory". On 8 December 2008 Michael Stone received a 16 year sentence for his actions at Stormont.
As well as the two attempted murder charges, he was convicted on seven other counts, including possession of nail bombs, three knives, a garrotte and an axe, as well as causing criminal damage to the Stormont building.