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Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by Unity_99
The problem is,these women HAVE to wear those burkas.You will have to
explain to your children why these women are treated the way they are.
Muslim women,who don't dress or behave, the way their faith dictates,
could be killed.
Would you want a muslim woman to face a possible death sentence,just
so your children aren't exposed to their dress or treatment?
Originally posted by RamsOnTop
Wow! Bush's war on Islam is at its peak. Too many people are buying into this idea of hate the Muslims. And it's really working. It's getting pretty scary out there.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Originally posted by RamsOnTop
Wow! Bush's war on Islam is at its peak. Too many people are buying into this idea of hate the Muslims. And it's really working. It's getting pretty scary out there.
Oh, brother! This has ZERO to do with Bush. We are talking about burkas in France.
BTW, it isn't hating people to support their right to walk about without having to hide their face. Get a clue.
Originally posted by seattletruth
Originally posted by minigunner
reply to post by RamsOnTop
You are obviously not privy to their 15 year plan.
You are not privy to "what would Jesus do".
Think about it.
What would Jesus do. If you think he would outlaw women's freedom to dress how they like, then you are a fool.
Turn the other cheek.
Originally posted by Occy Anonymous
But this is clearly an anti-religious law.
We all bag out on certain Islamic countries for their anti-Christian laws, but gladly aprove when France does the same thing? This is just purely revenge motivated and to incite even more negative feelings towards Muslims. Especially considering their is a good chance of some fanatic retaliating.
You can't just single one religion out because of a few bad eggs. Why not just put every catholic priest on the sex offenders list? As for a security issue, I really don't see how this is a security issue at all.
Yes some are forced, SOME. But forcing them ALL to not wear one is even worse. You are asking them to choose between their faith and a better quality of life.
Originally posted by Occy Anonymous
But you are assuming all women are wearing these because they are forced. The majority or Muslim men do not mind, again it is only the extremists and you have been flooded with so many images and stories of abuse in Islam that you are thinking all Muslim men abuse their wives, IT IS ONLY A SMALL MINORITY WHO ARE FORCED TO WEAR BURKAHS.
Yes laws on pedophilia are well established, just as laws on women abuse already are, but it is forcing someone to remove something of their religious faith, the burkah has nothing to do with abusing women. Modesty is one of the biggest ideals of Islam.
Again yes IT IS ONLY A MINORITY WHO ARE FORCED. It is just the images and stories we are flooded with everyday that make it seem like it is the majority. It is the exact same thing as the little banana on extremist channels telling all the Islam children to kill jews. You have grown up with it your entire life and believe it, no matter how intelligent and free willed you think you are it is not true.
Originally posted by jpmail
reply to post by Occy Anonymous
So its in there religion to subjagate women, treat them worse than animals or as substanard humans, kill gays, stone to death anyone that breaks there religious laws and its part of there culture so it must be ok then?
Jog on religious types move to my counrty and have it your way just be sure to make sure the locals are also forced to obey we are all one world.
Tell you what how about you move to another country and see how far you get trying to force your ways on them, I dont think you will last long.
Freedom of choice is not a right to force your ways on another. If one culture is happy to adjust then all fine and well but none and I mean none of these people where forced into moving to France or live in France.
They made a choice they need to live by Frances rule or move to another country that suits there views better.
I garuntee though none of them will because there is a big lack of wellfare states in muslim countries, there is not the same freedom of choice nor as much oppertunity to advance through life.
Originally posted by Occy Anonymous
reply to post by blueorder
reply to post by blueorder
Muslim men do generally show modesty however you don't notice them, like any human you only notice the bad ones not the ordinary ones. Yes, you would BUT A BIKINI IS NOT A RELIGIOUS ARTICLE.
Originally posted by Occy Anonymous
I never said it was your fault you have seen and read this
so maybe you need to stop taking it so personally.
Anyone who has lived in the western world has been flooded with anti-Islam images their whole lives
. Again you are assuming that Islam is one religion, Islam has many different sects and beliefs the Burkah is only integral to a minority of them
Muslim men do generally show modesty however you don't notice them, like any human you only notice the bad ones not the ordinary ones.
Yes, you would BUT A BIKINI IS NOT A RELIGIOUS ARTICLE.
Every religion has extremists in certain sects who will twist words in their belief system to suit the socio-pathic personalities. You can not punish a whole society because of a tiny minority. Some Sects of Islams, a Burkah is required just as my father wore a Yarmulke(yes, he was Jewish) so why not fine Jews for wearing Yarmulkes or Christians for wearing crosses, just because you are ignorant of other cultures it doesn't mean you have a right to force them how to live.
Why not just force them to wear yellow stars or get serial numbers like Hitler did to the Jews, because this is exactly how that started. Singling out a specific religion with extreme laws under the guise of "protecting the majority".
Originally posted by searching4truth
And, as I said a few pages ago, the majority of Muslim women do not wear the burka or niqaab and most scholars to not deem it to be a requirement of the faith. It seems irresponsible, to me, to risk the security of a nations citizens (including other Muslims) for something that is unnecessary both religiously and functionally.