Its a shame here in Britain we are the exact opposite. Its a bit extreme but at-least they are defending their country and their values unlike here.

Good.

It's called assimilation, something we should try over here in the states.

Keeping a national identity when you're being taken over by other cultures (intentional or not) is a hard thing to do and if you want to stay the same country, it's essential.

Also, France seems to be trying to make it well known they respect women lately; bully for them.

[edit on 8-1-2010 by Mr Headshot]

Prime Minister John Howard - Australia Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.' 'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom' 'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!' 'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.' 'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.' 'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.' 'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

If I moved to a foreign country I would live by those rules and ideals. After all, I chose to move there. People that come to Canada and then try to change Canada to the country they just moved from irks me. If it's laws and Ideals were soo great then why didn't you stay there. I'm all for immigration and living in an integrated society. I just don't like people trying to change this country to the one they just moved from.

Your missing my point. I think that most of our laws are fair and balanced for all. However, several religions that are prominent and are spreading we'll say the BIG 3 are infiltrating our governments more and more. I for one believe in seperation of church and state. In Muslim countries they are intertwined and they then want those types of laws implemented in their new countries. Some contradict current laws of said country with respect to women.

Well done to France.
Ultimately it's good for women too. Let's not kid ourselves that all of them want it. And in some cases it is no more than an 'Up yours, I am different' gesture. It's a 'statement' that we are seeing more and more on the streets of Britain.
Plus it is such a bar to effective communication imo.
This is the UK. It is not and never will be an Islamic nation. The backlash has started and I hope we follow the lead.
Vive la France!

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People actually support this crap? What? People don't like freedoms anymore?

The ironic thing is that women can lay on a French beach, topless. Yet, covering up ones body is illegal?

Way to be morally superior, France.

Somebody said that France is supporting women by doing this. Um.. How is it supporting women's rights, but limiting what they can wear? I think it's sick that they made these laws, but even sicker that people in US/UK support them.

You think that everybody comes to a country should "assimilate"? You think all people should act and dress western, or else they don't belong? Did the Europeans that came to the US decide to wear moccasins, put on a head dress, and live in a tepee? Heck no.

Did the Irish that came here give up their heritage? Should wearing kilts be banned? What about those horrible parades they hold where they have pride in a heritage that's different from MTV? Those should be illegal too huh?

Everybody has be a good little consumer and wear western clothes, or else they don't deserve to live... I forgot

BTW, It's a bull# argument to say that "the women want it anyway". Shouldn't you let them decide what they want? I know plenty of Muslim women that LOVE to wear their covering garments, out of respect for themselves. It's part of the religion, and believe it or not, lots of women are Muslim because they truly believe in it, not cause a man makes them believe it. It's their own choice.

It shouldn't be any countries right to decide what people can and can't wear.


[edit on 8-1-2010 by seattletruth]

Originally posted by seattletruth
You think that everybody comes to a country should "assimilate"? You think all people should act and dress western, or else they don't belong? Did the Europeans that came to the US decide to wear moccasins, put on a head dress, and live in a tepee? Heck no.

And look at what happened to the people who wore the moccasins, put on head dresses and lived in tepees.....notice they were almost made extinct and a humongous chunk of those cultures was lost forever.

nice way to defeat your own argument.