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Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
You are right...
That does sound ignorant.
Originally posted by Syrus Magistus
Originally posted by crimsongod21
wow, i couldnt honestly read most of the "stuff" posted so far in this thread. Why you may ask? Its simple for me to see that even though i do not know the source this seems much more like a regugation of words and not the Ops heartfelt thoughts and theories. Im not saying that he/she doesnt buy into them its just so lopsided that it makes me feel as if he/she doesnt have all the facts available to him/her.
Why would you think the NWO/illuminanti or other world leading power as such if failing now? If you subscribe to the theory that they are in power you must also subscribe that they have been in power for a very long time. Im not talking hundreds of years but most likely thousands, and that the same "people" that are ruling us now are the same that ran Rome. If you think about the state of the world from this time to that time we as a human population have been in much more dire straights. (I.E. the black plague, WWI, WWII, the great depression, The fall of Rome, and so on and so forth.)
To think that you could take down a group or organization such as these via any other way then an armed revolt is astounding to me anyways. The fact of the mater is you couldnt remove them from power even with an armed revolt its not practical at least to me to think its possible. its like saying that you are going to bring down the catholic church using the media (i.e. priest child molestation charges) what did that do oh im sorry they were just bad priest.... go work out of this parish now where no one knows who you are. Its just not really going to happen in my opinion anyways power begits power as they say. The Nwo/illuminati and other of that ilk are not a single headed monster you can take down they are like the hydra (i think thats the right mythical beast anyways been a while since my D&D days ha ha ha) when you remove one head two more will spring up in its place
This being said i dont know if they are in power already fighting for power or what the real case is. i have another post dealing with the illuminanti for any one who wants to read it go here its on page 2
thanks for listening good day/night depending on your location in this universe
Well, you're somewhat right. The phrasing, in many cases, is taken from other sources, as is the information. You'd be wrong though saying they're not my own heartfelt thoughts and theories. I cherry-picked my beliefs from all the other ones. They're mine now, but you're right that it's still quite imperfect. This is because my capacity to organize information is limited by my own attention span. I challenge you to do better at seventeen years old.
And you're wrong about the Illuminati. They've only been around for about a thousand years in their present form, and they didn't start to take power until about a hundred years ago. They're not unbeatable. They're not gods, seriously. This isn't like some cheesy video game. It's world history.
Violence is what they've prepared for. They've got weapons beyond anything we could get our hands on, so it's really not viable unless practically the whole country revolted, and when that happens they'll be up to their old tricks again. These groups thrive on chaos. A violent revolution wouldn't defeat them. They'd just disappear between the cracks, only to reemerge once we let our guard down. They're like a pestilence. They have to be taken out silently. Just ask the Russians.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Ignorant? no...he was spot on, and of course immediately the OP had to change his avatar when he saw that it wasn't brainwashing more people like he wanted to so we would all bow to "Obama...the savior of light who is here to save us all"... even though the man, and his entire administration have established, and signed into law more dictatorial, and repressive laws than any president before him....
The OP probably read one, or two books about the occult and is claming to know about "reality and the spiritual world" and that he is also here to teach us about it.... He needs to grow up, obviously he is about 15 years old, needs some real life experiences, and to read a lot more than one or two books about the paranormal to even skim over the surface of what the paranormal/spiritual world is all about...
The OP, just like Obama are neither "awakened beings" and neither one are "beings of light"... Whoever thinks so needs to start taking their medication sorry to say.
I am 37 years old and I have done a lot of travelling, studied Martial Arts most of my life, and have walked different paths including taking refuge with a Buddhist monk... yes, i did take refuge with a Buddhist monk and learned from him for almost a year but decided not to take the vows. Buddhism is not for me. I have had a lot of experiences in the paranormal, and never taken any illegal drugs, and I know that I haven't even touched the surface of what the spirit world is all about. But I learned enough to see who the fakers are and can spot them a mile away.
Anyway...the OP has FAILED miserably trying to protray Obama, or even himself as some sort of savior that some people want to keep claiming he is, despite the fact that his actions and words prove quite the oposite....
BTW...I am not an enlightened being, and sorry to say neither is any member I have seen so far... We have some good members/people in the website, some really bad elements, some nutcases, and everything in between.
We have seen throughout the years our share of members trying to claim they are some enlightened being, or even alien and that they are here to teach us...yet every one of them has been nothing more than dellusional, or even lunatics sorry to say. The OP is obviously too young, inexperienced and has a God complex mentality....
No one in this site, or in this world is "sort of God"...or "above the country, or above the world" or any other rhetorical BS...
Originally posted by lpowell0627
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I can't help but feel like there are a group / band of people on ATS that keep going with an all-too-familiar mantra:
It's not Obama. It's not Congress. They have no idea what's REALLY happening. It's the "shadow government". It's the "secret societies". It's the secret attendees of the "elites" that are really in the know....THAT's WHOM we have to go after....
You know what my problem with that is? It's a bug 'ol excuse for inaction. How exactly does one go after a group whose members are a secret? How does one go after a shadow government that nobody can truly identify?
Is it not simply a waste of time to sit and ponder who is really in charge....all the while we are watching our freedoms disintegrate, our money going to support waste and corruption, and watching scores of coffins arrive from those fighting a senseless war.....all at the hands of the people that ARE in charge right NOW!
Now don't misunderstand me. I do believe there is a NWO. I do believe there are elitists running the "ultimate end-game". However, what I completely disagree about is the role that our current and past governments have played.
Why should we just sit back and wait for the "true powers" to be revealed? There are REAL, IDENTIFIABLE people in government positions right now furthering the agenda of unknown / unnamed people. We need to start with them.
It is our current Congress, and our current President, that is continuing the failed policies of the past eight years. Is it merely coincidence that there is an entirely new political party in power right now, but yet the policies of "the other side" are being furthered? Wouldn't it have made more sense that if the POTUS and Congress WERE NOT aware of the NWO agenda that they would have NOT suddenly decided to further what are typically considered "Republican" agendas? Doesn't anyone else find it strange that the separation between political parties is becoming more and more obscure with only HOW they generate waste being the main difference?
The fish rots from the head down. If we want to take back our countries, and try to save what's left of the world from being destroyed by corrupt, greedy politicians, we should stop giving a pass to all those currently elected to represent our needs and desires and begin removing them from office one by one.
Without a puppet government in play, the shadow government will emerge. It is then that they can be identified. It is then that we can start OUR end-game.
I find it completely impossible that Obama and his cronies just happen to be successfully helping the NWO agenda without fully knowing exactly what it is they are trying to accomplish.
Originally posted by Syrus Magistus
reply to post by AntiNWO
Sure, they're all controlled, but by different factions and to varying degrees. I reference Fox because it's the silliest of the lot. Sorry I lost cred for giving somebody the benefit of the doubt, as there really isn't much in the way of serious evidence.
Originally posted by Riposte
reply to post by Syrus Magistus
I guess you're completely unaware, but your post is extremely politically biased. So in other words, you have no idea what you're talking about.
You whine about Fox News, and then go on to complain about the astroturfing going on in the Tea Party movement (which you refer to as the "teabaggers"). All the while leaving out any condemnation of the other side of the political spectrum, which only proves how blind you truly are.
Your use of the word "teabaggers" is language straight out of the power elite's Democratic playbook.
You have been completely hoodwinked; you have bought into the left-right paradigm that the elites use to brainwash the masses.
It's not that Fox News isn't a joke... it most certainly is. But the political bias you just exhibited only serves to prove how misinformed you truly are.
[edit on 8-1-2010 by Riposte]
Originally posted by WatchRider
I'm in total agreement with Rip.
The OP Magis is bang out of order.
Supporting Obama is ok if he deserves supporting, he doesn't.
This is a left-wing support thread for Obama.
If there's one thing you missed about Fox News it is that at least it tries to stay upbeat and positive. Yes it's right-wing but at least they admit that. In fact in a world filled with leftist news media who can blame them?
Maybe something is going to happen in 2012 we'll just have to wait and see, we're in this for the ride that's for sure.
Originally posted by Syrus Magistus
reply to post by dragonseeker
I could be the greatest fool in the universe, and I still wouldn't wish to be like you.
This is great practice, by the way. I can see a little of my own weaknesses reflected in you. I'll get better at this sooner or later.
[edit on 9-1-2010 by Syrus Magistus]