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posted on May, 25 2004 @ 03:58 PM
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2John.1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Well there is the first document.

Easily referred to.

1John.4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.

John.6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.




posted on May, 25 2004 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by ab2tw

Originally posted by DaTruth

If that is the case then Holy Roman empire/church has been against Christ from the get go.


Didn't they crucify the King of Glory?


The Romans didn't crucify him. He was given up by his own people.

The Romans don't deserve the bad rap they get. They weren't an 'evil' empire. They were just a conquering nation, much like the U.S. is today. The weak are always jelous of the strong.



posted on May, 25 2004 @ 04:19 PM
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The Romans didn't crucify him. He was given up by his own people.

The Romans don't deserve the bad rap they get. They weren't an 'evil' empire. They were just a conquering nation, much like the U.S. is today. The weak are always jelous of the strong.


Good and evil is relative to ones own accord. The Romans did what was in thier nations best interest and what they deemed fit to further reduce this revolution.

One mans truth can be another mans destruction.

Deep



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 01:38 AM
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Oh Fellow Romans, know thy own mother, know thy own father.

Thou art the descendants of Rome, thy tongue is Romish, as are thy letters, thy speeches, and thy laws!

Think about it kids, Americans are part of the legacy of the Roman Empire. The letters you are reading right now are purely Roman. Our holidays are the feast days of gods and goddesses, of religions and mysteries that have long since dimmed into obscurity, like the comet that passes by in a blaze, only to fade away after a short time.

We tend to think of them as foreigners, but they are in truth our cultural and intellectual parents. Our government, our legal system, even our educational system sprang from the Empire of Rome, so be greeted citizens of the Pax Romana!

We are gentiles! Be certain of your own identity. Many "Christians" go about pretending to be Jews, citing the laws of the old testament, the old prophets, the Hebrew God. You aren't really jews, kids. You don't live their laws, so stop judging people by them and trying to form your religion to them.

Your religion is far more blessed and deep than your sunday school tells you. In these modern days, the only intellectually honest path is to gather all religions to yourself, and perfect them all, because all are so easily availble to you, and we live in nothing but peace and plenty.

People who can't do well in such a rich, firtile, and peaceful envirnoment aren't worthy of any kind of enlightenment, salvation, or inheritance. What a thorny bush grew out of such a rich nation!

God holds us western gentiles to a high standard, we have a lot of gifts, and he who has much, much is expected from. So pursue perfection, wisdom, and goodness.

I have no argument with the author of this thread, I just want people who claim to be Christian to expand their minds a little more and beat the book a little less.

Wisdom does not come from quoting scripture. It does not prove your points, or win your arguments. Wisdom is the ability to speak from the heart, judge matters soley on your own intellect and experience, and to have a righteous and pure mind all the time.

I truly am falling in love with some of you people here. Your minds are so ready! Your souls are so good! Understand the true Christ, and the Real Faith. Grow in stength, claim your inheritance of the Kingdom, become Wise, good and strong. Never bow to the world or any of its forces!

I am 28 years old. How old are the rest of you? I am curious, because I think it is something that is happening to OUR generation - some of us have been awakened, and the rest are going to stay asleep.

Keep posting and keep thinking, I am growing stronger and stronger and wiser and wiser just by eating the intellectual fruit you kids are bringing me.

Arkaleus



[Edited on 26-5-2004 by Arkaleus]



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 01:51 AM
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Why would anyone need someone to lead them or some "saviour" to save them.

Take responsibility for your actions and life. Fight your own fights and beat the # out of anyone who stands in your way.

If you fail, who cares, at least you tried and stood up for yourself.

People always turning for their political leaders asking "what are YOU going to do about it" or thinking some god is going to save them because they are to weak and lazy to stand up for themselves.

If you believe in a god and having to answer to him before being alowed to go into heaven, who do you think he will let in first.

The man that stood his own ground and fought for his life, friends, family, idea's, morals and everything he could ever stand for.

Or the crybaby that spent his last minutes calling out to his political leaders or praying to god or jesus or jahwe or allah or whoever he "believed" in?

If this god is anywhere near devine, the man that actualy tried to do something instead of just cry will get in waaaay before the other guy. Heck, if I was god the sobbing praying whinebaby would first spend half of eternity in the fires of hell to teach em a lesson.



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 05:12 AM
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Because man is fallen? IS corrupt? Has sin from the first man?
You have to understand the reason for salvation, which is that by mans very nature we are ALL evil. There are NONE that are righteous. So how can we live with God who has no evil in him when we are all evil by nature?
And why are we evil? One seed was planted. That lead to every man dying.So isnt it obvious we need God to save us? If you think you can save yourself by works you are wrong!

Any spirit that does not confess that Jesus came in the flesh and is the son of God is the spirit of antichrist. I cant believe how many times Ive seen and read this prophet and that prophet in some of todays churchs predicting all types of things..starting with "Thus say the Lord" but with no reference to the spirit who gave them the prediction. If they dont confess Jesus came in the flesh and is the son of God then what spirit are they of?

Same with New Age...they dont confess that Jesus came in the flesh! But this stuff is getting more and more rampant in the churchs today.

Jesus didnt come like Buddah and Mohammed and others saying I have been given the knowledge to the way of life..he said I am the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE.



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Arkaleus
I am 28 years old. How old are the rest of you? I am curious, because I think it is something that is happening to OUR generation - some of us have been awakened, and the rest are going to stay asleep.

Keep posting and keep thinking, I am growing stronger and stronger and wiser and wiser just by eating the intellectual fruit you kids are bringing



Don't you reckon that as a 28 year old, you're being rather conceited and condescending with your classifying the posters here as kids?
And please tell me, Arkelius/Freemason/MrNecros/LightBringer/Wanderer/5POF or whatever the hell alias you use nowadays (I've counted 5 in the last week), how someone who displays such blatant dishonesty on this forum can be given credibility in "showing people the truth"?

As for your comment that people should take all religions to their hearts and perfect them? Can't you see what a contradictory statement this is? As long as there are competing religions, there can never be perfection within any of them.


[Edited on 26-5-2004 by Leveller]



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 11:10 AM
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Ark,

I like your posts. they make me think about what I believe and search for biblical evidence to back it up.

Gal.1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed

And just what is that gospel that was preached??

btw I am 26 yrs young.

Age is not always a measure of wisdom, in fact children sometimes have the wisest observations on matters.

2Cor.11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 11:28 AM
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thank you TSTF!!!your are in the right track to tell the real fact about this.
B*stard or C*astard anyway.but i m nearly ready to hand in hand combat now

p/s i ll cova the air,sea,land and space to take out this fealler`his a death man`
i ll wait the prosiding point there



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 11:51 AM
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Sorry unholy, I just don't understand what you are trying to say.

2Thes.2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,


Ok let's stop calling this last hour "evil individual" the anti-christ and start calling him the son of perdition or the man of sin.



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 12:13 PM
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(places ear horn to ear) Eh? I can't hear so well sonny. All that rock music made me deaf, ya know.


Do you know the spirit in which I have come? Are you able to tell by my words what I am? I will not lie to you at all.

I will in no way mislead you. I have no negative desire in me. Those who are of the same spirit of me are very easy to see, they understand me without being taught, and are called into heaven.

Those who wonder at me, and are angry at my words, you must go to another place, a place prepared for you. Such as you I have nothing for, I will appear as an old and ragged man, and you will say, who is this vagabond? Perhaps a criminal and wrongdoer has come to us, you will say, let us accost him and drive him away.

You will say, "He thinks he is Christ!"

You will say, "He claims to have knowledge of what we do not."

You will say, "He does not agree with our own teaching."

I will not say anything to these things, my brothers know me, we are children of the same Father, and our joy is our own nature.

Our lot is to inherit the house, the world, and go into heaven. Are you going to prevent us?

You will know my nature by my words, I will tell them to you. Jesus did not order men to glorify him. He did not cause men to bow before him. He did not argue with men to establish his own authority. He gave from the wealth that was within him, from his own treasury, which is ours as well, and it is availble to every good person. Join the real faith, not the false churches, they are not any good at all.

Children, why do you say, "we are not children?" Are you of full spiritual age, have you discerned what is above, and beneath, and does what is hidden manifest itself to you? If it does not, then you are indeed children, and little children at that, what shame is there in little children?

In time, God will cause us to be full men, even young ones will be grown to fullness, and beardless youths will thrash the old ones as if driving leaves, because of the zeal of the spirit.

Some of you who have responded I have seen before. Your words and your natures agree, you are not part of my faith. What then, did you come to say to me, and my brothers? What do you desire with us?

The Kingdom is for little children, the law for them who are weaned, and the judgment is them of full teeth, and the Council for those who wear garments, they have fulfilled every mystery.

The Kingdom of God is laid out before men's eyes, but they do not see it, It is not hidden away, but is still accepting souls into it.

The first mystery I will teach you is the that of the little boy announcing the truth - "I have declared the truth, and I will not be shamed at all." In this fashion the little will overcome the strong. That is the spirit in which you speak of matters. Those who speak in this manner cannot be overcome, because every word out of their mouth is established by God.

Arkaleus



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 12:44 PM
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Because man is fallen? IS corrupt? Has sin from the first man?
You have to understand the reason for salvation, which is that by mans very nature we are ALL evil. There are NONE that are righteous. So how can we live with God who has no evil in him when we are all evil by nature?
And why are we evil? One seed was planted. That lead to every man dying.So isnt it obvious we need God to save us? If you think you can save yourself by works you are wrong!


No man/woman is insecure and always striving to secure himself through spirtual or materialistic means. I think it takes some simple rational and observation to understand that man/woman is not evil, if not ignorant through circumstance.

Children are not evil are they, silly boy !

These bedtime stories have gone to far if you ask me. How could you possibly believe that all man is evil ?

Wait, becuase the Bible told you so...

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumoured by many. Do not believe in anything because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find anything that agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
-Siddhartha Gautama (The Buddha), 563-483 B.C


Deep



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 12:51 PM
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Any spirit that does not confess that Jesus came in the flesh and is the son of God is the spirit of antichrist. I cant believe how many times Ive seen and read this prophet and that prophet in some of todays churchs predicting all types of things..starting with "Thus say the Lord" but with no reference to the spirit who gave them the prediction. If they dont confess Jesus came in the flesh and is the son of God then what spirit are they of?


I guess this makes me the Anti-Christ


You do have to understand the minute if not any references there are to an actual Jesus of Christ existing. Why should we embrace a figment of ones imagination ?

The teachings of Buddha,

www.sivanandadlshq.org...




Lord Buddha preached: "We will have to find out the cause of sorrow and the way to escape from it. The desire for sensual enjoyment and clinging to earthly life is the cause of sorrow. If we can eradicate desire, all sorrows and pains will come to an end. We will enjoy Nirvana or eternal peace. Those who follow the Noble Eightfold Path strictly, viz., right opinion, right resolve, right speech, right conduct, right employment, right exertion, right thought and right self-concentration will be free from sorrow. This indeed, O mendicants, is that middle course which the Tathagata has thoroughly comprehended, which produces insight, which produces knowledge, which leads to calmness or serenity, to supernatural knowledge, to perfect Buddhahood, to Nirvana.


Deep

[Edited on 26-5-2004 by ZeroDeep]



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroDeep
But after observation and analysis, when you find anything that agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
-Siddhartha Gautama (The Buddha), 563-483 B.C



I wonder what agrees with reason, and what should be done when my reason disagrees with your reason??

This is what ark is talking about with words......John.8:47He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

John.12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.[/b]

The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 01:14 PM
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1Cor.1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Looks like that foolish thing called preaching will save me if I believe....

Look I know there are "preachers" looking for the 2nd coming of Christ. You must be diligent in your search for truth and find the Spirit of Christ for it is alive and well in the earth today.
Also the spirit of antichrist is alive and working as well so again be diligent and hold fast to the truth that Jesus brought and the doctrine of the original apostles.

Pss.10:4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.

Heb.11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.



posted on May, 26 2004 @ 01:40 PM
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Sort through all these memes, read The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral mind.

Especially understand the terms: metaphrand-paraprand, metaphier-paraphier.

Figure out the failure of the Draconian methods, and how that has captured the "Christian agenda." Make sense from the bible and what people tell you to "believe."

"Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves."



posted on May, 28 2004 @ 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroDeep
John.12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.[/b]


...and I brought Nachos!

Bam!



posted on May, 29 2004 @ 11:53 AM
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Re: Antichrist - things I didn't previously know.

The following message appeared yesterday in the June issue of Bible Code Newsletter from onealclan0.tripod.com...:

(from webmaster at http//www.onealclan.com):

Biblical scholar and frequent Middle East visitor, Dr. J. Chambers (jrc@pawcreek.org) wrote in April 2004 that a Biblical prophecy almost totally unknown by Bible teachers is that the Antichrist will be an Assyrian and that an Assyrian nation will develop at the end of Gods judgment. The 50,000 square mile area of Assyria has had no self-government for 2,000 years but many Middle Easterners, including many who are not direct descendants, identify themselves as Assyrians.

The Webmaster considers himself adept at prophecy studies but was completely unaware of this. So he checked the Bible Code program. The calculated statistical chances of these ELS words being found at random in any large text are near zero. Yet, we found the following crossing Leviticus 20:27: Anti-Christ, Assyrian.

Readers might be interested in reading the plain text for that verse.

onealclan0.tripod.com...



posted on May, 29 2004 @ 01:22 PM
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if evil and good are relative to one's own accord, then would it be considered evil if i slaughtered an entire family just because i didn't like their last name, zerodeep? where do the boundaries end? how about if i attempted to massacre all left-handed folk? there has to be a line drawn somewhere...but that's my opinion...now excuse me while i go massacre my tofu and avocado sandwich.



posted on Jun, 23 2004 @ 11:23 PM
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You of my nation, improve your tongues.

Form the thought of God in your mind, and become One with His Will.

Understand the first Cause, The Mind and Work of Christ.

Become Gods and Men, Rise above this place.

You Christians, stop being men and start being Christs. Do you understand what I am saying? Obey what your Lord has commanded you.

The judgement of the world is upon you, those who are caught in it as bodies in the storm will suffer and die. Release your soul from the flesh.

Flesh is not the fruit of Christ, it is trodden under his foot.

So then, little children, which you are, and do not deny that you are, cast off the old robes of this life and take on you the new robe, which is the critical understanding of God - To understand God Think as God!

To Think as God is to begin the process of salvation. You will not get there by following these churches, they are made after the image of flesh, and serve the needs of the flesh, which is not the way of God.


Hear my prophecy for you who read this, and this is my gift to you: A sudden thing will come to this earth very soon, a gift will arise in every one of you that has been prepared for it.

"What is it?" You will say

It arises within you, it meets that which comes from above, and the two are joined. Do you understand what this is? I will prepare the way for you.

The Spirit of God is the spirit of understanding. Those who understand best are led into great understanding, and become gods themselves, whose will is after the Father, and The Father will manifest within them.

That is what is coming to this nation. It is done to save many of you, so that this nation is not entirely removed from the earth.

Those in whom this light is not manifested will diminish and die. That is the work of Christ. And the Will of God.

Ark



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