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you know, where are all the big company sponsorships when it comes to something like this?
its all a tax write off for them, so why cant the big pharma or big med ancillary corps pitch in for these folks?
Originally posted by whitewave
Nice find. I predicted this several months ago on here that the elderly and those on dialysis would be some of the first to reap the "benefits" of Obama's health care. They're just too darn expensive to support, being "useless eaters" and all.
but, well, how many of those charitable rich families and organizations were ripped off by the shady wall street players? I know maddolf or whoever hit quite a few...and the whole wall street crash reeks of shadiness!
well the healthcare plan hasn't gone into effect but yes this is the type of thing to expect. i know i am a goner under this plan. need too much to stay alive and contribute nothing. as has been pointed out to me by people all the time. especially in hard times like these. easy to get rid of.
Originally posted by proteus33
its very sad i agree i say treat all the patients but when it comes time to pay bill if they are illegal then bill their homeland be it mexico or cuba or whereever .
The hilarious thing about that statement is that the health care bill isn't yet active. You may be correct a year into the program, but the blame is squarely on capitalism, not the vaporous health care bill.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
And that is what makes the American population a time bomb ready to explode because the anger that many people are holding inside is just no easily put off.
People wants to talk they want to tell their stories vent their frustrations and when they find somebody that can listen is amazing.
And as for Cuba, just remember who runs the American nation, corporate USA doesn't want you to know that nations like Cuba can take care of their citizens without profiting from them.
The deceptions been played at the expenses of the tax payer and hard working Americans is just plain obsence.
[edit on 8-1-2010 by marg6043]
Originally posted by np6888
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I appreciate your idealism, but in this world, there is always a battle between population/ethics and resources. We don't have free energy and unlimited resources. Therefore, we have to eliminate the most inefficient, otherwise, we will go into debt.
BY JOHN DORSCHNER
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The University of Miami's UHealth, Baptist Health South Florida and Mercy Hospital announced Friday morning they will fund for one month the 40-some dialysis patients who have lost their support from Jackson Health System.
``These folks need care, and they're going to get it more appropriately this way,'' said Laurence Gardner, UM's executive dean for education and policy.
He said top officials of the three entities -- UM's Pascal Goldschmidt, Brian Keeley of Baptist Health and John Johnson of Mercy -- agreed to the one-month program ``until a longer term solution can be found,'' said Gardner. The three are hoping other hospitals will step forward.
The patients can continue with their present dialysis centers where Jackson had contracts, and the three entities will reimburse Jackson.
Jackson Chief Executive Eneida Roldan said earlier she would welcome any support because the government system is facing a deficit of more than $100 million this year, even after cutting two primary care centers and exploring other cost-saving options.
Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by OhZone
Thanks.
But I am confused about you wanting to euthanize congenital-defective babies at birth.
I was born with SEVERE ALLERGIES and asthma and was in an incubator a long time, before I could go home.
[edit on 7-1-2010 by Clearskies]
Originally posted by SpacePunk
Originally posted by whitewave
Nice find. I predicted this several months ago on here that the elderly and those on dialysis would be some of the first to reap the "benefits" of Obama's health care. They're just too darn expensive to support, being "useless eaters" and all.
The hilarious thing about that statement is that the health care bill isn't yet active. You may be correct a year into the program, but the blame is squarely on capitalism, not the vaporous health care bill.
Nice try, guy but I've been in the health care field for 30 years and there was a time when we BOUGHT ventilators for illegal aliens, send a trained ICU nurse with the patient, their new ventilator, and paid for 2 weeks worth of training the family how to operate it. Now they just get deported. If they drop dead, oh well. I've watched increasing government intrusion into healthcare progress to the point where we NOW have a health care "crisis" when none existed before. The capitalists were the generous souls who were willing to pay for illegal immigrants chronic health problems in an extremely generous way. Now we can't even afford to take care of our own. Also, I believe the capitalists will be taxed for about 5 years to fund this glorious Utopian free bubble-up and rainbow stew of universal health care BEFORE any of us gets to enjoy the fruits of it.
The honest thing to say that this is normal in America that if you cannot afford health care you can just die, and deservingly so. It's the American way, after all.
Until socialistic programs and mandates became the norm, it was not always so. And what do you mean by "deservingly so"? Are you saying that if one can not afford health care, one deserves to die? Isn't that a "capitalistic" stereotype? You're not a closet capitalist are you?
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Stormdancer777
Obama Nazi Health-Care Plan Revolves Around Hastings, Agency of the British Crown's Eugenics Movement
You sure have done a lot of reasearch on the subject Stormdancer and made a tremendous amount of excellent contributions to the thread.
I really appreciate it.
Nazi like certainly is the size of it.
Thanks.
In the case of Garcia, she has been in this country legally for about five years, but doesn't have the work history to qualify for Medicare.
Her most poignant case is a man who has been in the United States legally for a year and was working full-time -- at a company that didn't offer insurance.
When Jackson stopped its support, Witzel-Kreuter said, he quit his job so he could qualify for Medicaid, the government health insurance for the poor.
``So now he's on food stamps and all that, when he could have been working,'' she said. ``It's a very very sad story.''