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reply posted on 8-1-2010 @ 02:20 PM by Morningglory
Originally posted by Tifozi
Because the President of a PASSENGER company, doesn't want his CLIENTS to avoid flying.

Things have a way of backfiring on us. Be careful what you wish for. You're so certain in your beliefs that you see no problem with everyone going along. Well we might surprise you and make other travel arrangements. How well is the airline industry doing these days can you really afford to loose customers? You may think this resistance is just crazy but if enough people get fed up it could hit your industry harder than you think.

Seems like a good portion of people are against this intrusion. You want them all to subscribe to your inside view maintaining your safety so you can return to hearth & home. Well aren't you special.

I'm sorry but you ask too much. We all take on dangerous jobs. We know the risks, we try to be as safe as possible but when does it go to far? You go on about other risks to aviation. I understand but those same risks exist here on the ground. You talk about drugs well what about alcohol? It's served on the planes. What about alcoholic/druggie pilots are you tested before every flight or just annually?

My family has worked in industry for generations. We all are very aware of the risks regardless of safety standards in place. I worked 11pm-5am at a convenience store. It wasn't a high crime area, it wasn't druggies that scared me nor was it terrorists, it was drunks. They would knock over displays, they would walk out too drunk to remember they hadn't paid. If I said anything they would turn mean. Do you think these guys couldn't pound me into the ground and not even remember doing it? As long as the drunks weren't driving the cops wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to come help me. So if I could put safety measures in place that would allow my workplace to be more safe. I would close bars & liquor stores and while I'm at it maybe it's a good idea to just outlaw it altogether.

I mean it would be in the name of safety right? Look at all the people who could go home to their families instead of being killed by drunk drivers. Does it matter that the majority manage to drink safely and have a good time? You have the eyes of the world looking out for your safety what about the rest of us. I can die the same as you and for me drunks are a real risk to my safety. You could say maybe I shouldn't work at an all night convenience store. I could say the same thing about you being a pilot. What about driving should I give that up too because there are drunks on the road? You could say your industry is more deserving of such safeguards because there are more lives in your hands? Sorry I think there's more people on the roads with drunks than in the air with terrorists. Is it because you're in the air everyday and feel your odds aren't exactly in your favor so extreme measure need to be taken to ensure your safety? Well I drive for a living now I'm on the roads everyday and I can tell you my odds are probably worse than yours but how many of you would give up alcohol to make my job safer?

If you get scanners to protect you on the job then I want special measures on my job too. Where will it end? Would you be willing to give a blood sample before you start your car? How about a scanner at the door of my store that is sensitive to alcohol? Sure you only had one drink or maybe a dose of cough medicine but the cops will come you will be checked out probably embarrassed. You will surely not come back to my store.

Another thing I know how people like to mess with electronic equipment. How much dialing in can these scanner operators do? Might they be tempted to mess with the calibration to focus in better? How could that impact the safety of this equipment? Could we possibly be exposed to higher levels of radiation due to operators not knowing what they are doing or just messing around?


reply posted on 8-1-2010 @ 03:00 PM by Miss_Chievous666
reply to post by dereks



What about when you need to travel overseas? Maybe for a bussiness trip, honeymoon, wedding etc. The point is that we should not have to sacrifice flying to avoid being seen naked. This is ridiculous!

And what about me, A 14 year old girl? I don't want anybody seeing me naked!

Jeez, what is the world coming to? Where we are required to let strangers see us naked to get from texas to london. Not by a doctor for a medical exam but by some random person to FLY! UGH!


reply posted on 8-1-2010 @ 03:10 PM by Miss_Chievous666
reply to post by purplemer



It's not that people have a problem with the naked body its a privacy concern. It's OUR body. It's very personal and no one should be forced to bare all for some security guard. Try explaining to a 13 year old girl that to go on vacation some stranger is going to see her nude. Good way to traumatize kids who are going through puberty and are more insecure than some other adult, hippy, free love people


reply posted on 8-1-2010 @ 03:11 PM by moonzoo7
Let's face it, this idea didn't just come along in the last 3 weeks. The technology has been developed, and the machines already exist. This was in the plan all along, they were just waiting for the right time to implement the plan. ( Maybe building, installing, and running the machines creates badly needed jobs??? ).
The general public and the media are suckers for anything that falls under the umbrella of protecting children and preventing terrorrism. Whenever that's the default reason for doing or not doing anything, no one can argue without being labeled as, well, you name it.
What's the real issue here? Your psuedo-privacy verses the overall safety of others.
When you purchase a ticket, you already open yourself up to some level of screening as a potential terrorrist or drug smuggler, not to mention that if they want to strip search you, they can. ( I.E., try paying cash for your ticket instead of using plastic. Use cash, and you're already a suspect. ). Once the purchase is made, you've already given up some of your rights, you are already compromised.
Any level of authority or screening carries the potential for abuse, there's no getting around that. Give someone a badge or a gun, or a mandate to carry out, and watch and wait.
However, would I feel safer flying knowing that everyone else has undergone some realiable, accurate level of screening? Absolutely.
We have stepped through the looking glass, there is no going back. Kids shouldn't have to have metal detectors in schools but they do. They shouldn't have to have cops in their hallways, but they do. This is the sad state of affairs that we find ourselves in.
And yes, Americans are a bit prudish, IMHO, but there was a good point made by another poster; After you've had to stare at a screen with X number of people being herded through day after day, the novelty will wear off. The internet has a ready supply of pornography, and if a guy ( or gal ) had to resort to capturing indistinct images from their machine to get their kicks, that would seem too great a risk, and a huge waste of time.
This does smack of being distasteful, and does feel intrusive, no doubt. But I'd rather have this than a strip search.



reply posted on 8-1-2010 @ 03:12 PM by Cabaret Voltaire
reply to post by BingeBob



THAT is a very good point. Why did the liberal leftist news say that stripping Iraqis was bad very bad, but stripping Americans is alright???


reply posted on 8-1-2010 @ 03:18 PM by BingeBob
reply to post by moonzoo7



Id rather have neither...Id rather they just follow the rules already set instead of f'n up all new ones
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