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U.S. Troops handcuff, execute 8 Afghan children

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posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 07:48 PM
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in the story from yahoo news (the only one i trust) IT DOES NOT MENTION US FORCES.

All the people jumping to conclusions, blaming US troops before any real proof comes to light is ridiculous.

Ok if anyone can provide these points of information with absolute certainty I'll concede that you have a valid opinion

1 How many soldiers were involved
2 From what country are these soldiers
3 If no Afghan forces were present how can we be 100 percent certain that this isnt a "Al-qeada False Flag"




posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by ohsnaptruth
USA HAS THE STRONGEST MILITARY BECAUSE THEY'RE MEN ARE MONSTERS.

no other military has killed as much innocent civilians than the USA's.
that's the ONLY way they win their wars.


Really? Got proof to that claim, or are you just another poster running your suck?

Read up on the Rape of Nanking. Figure out how many civilians were killed by the Imperial Japanese Army.

How many civilians were killed by the Nazi army in the Soviet Union in places like Stalingrad and Leningrad.

How many German civilians were killed by Soviet troops in Eastern Prussia and the Battle of Berlin.

Yeah, I thought so.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by adifferentbreed
I wonder something.........seems to be alot of these type threads from basically the same people each time. Basically the same anti US Military people glad handing each other........do they really care or are these just star and flag farming threads? Hey the military is bad.......s&f for the op, gee thanks for the s&f here's a star for you for your effort. Maybe that's the true conspiracy here.......just a thought.


uh-oh did someone get owned in another thread?

troll your off topicness away please.

bye.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 07:53 PM
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Hey here's an idea! Why not have American troops in america actually working for American people? There is no need for an American presence in every nook and cranny.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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reply to post by rainfall
 


Does it really matter?



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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Nope, didn't get owned........but I think that my question is as valid than this threads sources. If it walks like a duck? It's a star and flag fest.....if it was really that important there'd be more facts and solid articles. This was a sham from the start with the regular players in my opinion.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 07:58 PM
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More about where this article comes from.

www.cassiopaeacult.com...

Reality Roll Call

Former members that wish to remain anonymous, also claim they were scammed out of large sums of money when the Jadczyk’s suddenly uprooted the Perseus Foundation from New Port Richey, Florida and moved it to France leaving many a bewildered cult member feeling emotionally raped by their experience and financially taken advantage of.

The Jadczyk’s raised well over $100,000.00 to $150,000.00 from a bogus raffle to sell their home (AKA the Perseus Foundation) via PayPal then split with the money, leaving an unverified winner unknown to members but close to Laura. According to 2003 documents the home is still up for sale and a former devoted member lives there as caretaker showing the property. Laura is in legal trouble with fraud and embezzlement if she returns to the USA. Many members would sue her if they could get her back here.

As one member told me they began to wake up as soon as prediction dates that came from the Cassiopaean channelings came and went, and began to speculate that Laura was making things up via her channeling board just to keep the paranoia going and the money flowing. Laura was noticeably unable to follow her own set of lies and began to trap herself in them by getting dates confused and changing previous information.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:02 PM
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More about where this story comes from.


According to an ex-member, Laura uses extreme mind control by plucking out the headlines from the unrest within the world news then ‘channels’ disastrous information dealing with worst case scenarios of apocalyptic weather, the September 11,2001 tragedy, terrorism and plays upon the fears and hopes of her followers. This ex-member was chastised for bringing up a valid question in which Laura made an example of by scorning her in front of others. This is A-typical of abusive tactics used to control others if they begin to think for themselves.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:06 PM
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So, his threads "reak of government propaganda", yet you believe this one? I guess you missed my post on how it's funny that most people get suckered in for anything that's anti-US military here on ATS.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by ohsnaptruth
USA HAS THE STRONGEST MILITARY BECAUSE THEIR MEN ARE MONSTERS.

No other military has killed as much innocent civilians than the USA.
that's the ONLY way they win their wars.

With that being said, i don't know how i would live without my son or daughter. They're a part of me, a part of my soul. How can you kill something so innocent and harmless? Why, because they threw a rock at you? You're the one holding the AK-47.


Perhaps these poor kids were dreaming about throwing rocks at US troops. Doubtless, in the eyes of some posters here, that should be provocation enough.


From The Times
December 31, 2009

Western troops accused of executing 10 Afghan civilians, including children

American-led troops were accused yesterday of dragging innocent children from their beds and shooting them during a night raid that left ten people dead.

Afghan government investigators said that eight schoolchildren were killed, all but one of them from the same family. Locals said that some victims were handcuffed before being killed.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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Ouch that hurt. I guess instead of answering personal nattacks are in order. Ah well, so be it. This thread should be labeled a hoax, as posted on here by myself and others. As a final note, having a differing opinion makes it propoganda? Careful how you word that.......shoe fits on both feet here, if you expect everyone to agree with you maybe.......nah, never mind. Have a nice nite.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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en.wikipedia.org...

Come on people David Swanson the author of the first article from the op is obviously going to slant things ... hes just a blogger activist.... while on the other hand rueters (yahoo news link) is non biased reporting facts

The article was written in an attempt to strengthen anti war and anti troop sentiment

HATEMONGER
and
FEARMONGER



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by spookfish

Since when was it okay for the US to go around bullying the world, to break international law, to torture and to kill. Be nice, ask don't take, drop hypocrisy as a foreign policy, treat others as you wou have them treat you.

If only America behaved in the way it expects others to there'd be no killing and there'd be no terrorism.


Thank you for your post my friend...


If everyone thought like this we could truly have peace on earth...



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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From your source and from the afghani's presidents website

“The delegation concluded that a unit of international forces descended from a plane Sunday night into Ghazi Khan village in Narang district of the eastern province of Kunar and took ten people from three homes, eight of them school students in grades six, nine and ten, one of them a guest, the rest from the same family, and shot them dead,” a statement on President Karzai’s website said.

No where in there does it say us forces or even Western Forces



[edit on 7-1-2010 by conspiracyrus]



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:14 PM
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I haven't gone all the way through the thread. Forgive me if someone else has posted this particular article already

www.examiner.com... en-US-refuses

Afghan govt. demands arrest of US "death squad" who handcuffed, executed 8 children. US refuses
January 7, 11:02 AMLA County Nonpartisan ExaminerCarl Herman


Kai Eide, UN Representative to Afghanistan confirmed the Afghan government’s investigative conclusions that US troops handcuffed and then executed eight students enrolled in grades 6 through 10 in a night raid on December 27, 2009. The US military and NATO responded the troops involved were non-official. The most likely source of para-military “non-official” troops in Afghanistan is Blackwater/Xe.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by jerico65
reply to post by vermonster
 


So, his threads "reak of government propaganda", yet you believe this one? I guess you missed my post on how it's funny that most people get suckered in for anything that's anti-US military here on ATS.


when did i say i that i believed this?

i know there are no porn stars on this page jericho, but please still try and pay attention.

get off the jump to conclusions mat guy.

peace

[edit on 7-1-2010 by vermonster]



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:15 PM
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first off, i don't know of anyone in the military that would take a child out, handcuff them and gun them down. We don't do that, ever.
2nd, everyone here seems to think that we get free rides when we commit a crime, just the opposite, we go to Levenworth, it isn't fun.
We have to follow all laws, Federal, State, local and the UCMJ. No one else has to follow the UCMJ, just the folks in the mil. i call major BS on anyone who thinks this actually happened with US troops. i am so suprised at the number of people on ATS that were ready to believe this crap. i think people expect the worse from the members of the military. The people i have worked with and met in the military have more integrity and sacrifice more than anyone else i have met.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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And the man actually making these allegations

en.wikipedia.org...

Hes just an ex governer .... he wasnt there hes just trying to politicize and capitalize possibly for shot at being governer again?

BS



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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