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U.S. Troops handcuff, execute 8 Afghan children

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posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Sean48

Originally posted by Acid_Burn2009
Maybe we should just hunt down all militant radicals (of any religion) and put them on an island and nuke it. Problem solved...no need to occupy Iraq of Afghan anymore. Even then the bleeding hearts would come out of the woodwork.


Would this list include the present and past administration?

Congress.


LoL
Not sure I want to answer that! Become the leader of the free world, start the process and the decision is all yours my friend!




posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 07:57 PM
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Anyone who thinks our troops would do this is OUT OF THEIR DAM MIND. I am outraged that some of you blame U.S. troops for this. Our troops are the most dignified honest GOD fearing Army of individuals on the planet.

Our troops go out of their way to give aid and medical treatment to the enemy and you think they are going to kill kids?

Jane Fonda would be proud of you while she sleeps with OSAMA.

Who were the first ones bringing aid and relief supplies to Indonesia the worlds largest Muslim country after they were devastated by the earthquake and tsunami?

U.S. Navy and Marines thats who.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:02 PM
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Who, whoa I am not defending Haliburton. I had to deal with them for quite some time and I can't stand them and their sub-standard services and "qaulity control"

Don't recall the poster that said something about AK-47 and the child in Africa.
Either way, some of you just do not understand any other culture then the one you live in. It's all you know because it is the way you have lived your entire life. I understand the point the poster tried to make. Unless you have been there and know the culture (not from tv or internet...but being physically immersed in the culture) you really don't know anything about it.
My only problem with your post is the statement that only special forces have the ability to determine correct targets. I can only speak from Marine Corps experience but we are highly trained in threat detection and positive ID before we discharge any rounds from our rifles. Not trying to be super dick here, but that just shows the ignorance in your statement. Before you get ticked off, look up the meaning of ignorant in the dictionary.

-Nate



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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thanks for the tip rainfall i had no idea , i thought it was the real deal.
i just checked the name out and i am disappointed . still no one is too old to learn .



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:06 PM
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I thought marines kept and eye on embassies..........

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posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by wdkirk
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I thought marines kept and eye on embassies..........

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Seriously? I hope that is a joke.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by Acid_Burn2009

Originally posted by wdkirk
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I thought marines kept and eye on embassies..........

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Seriously? I hope that is a joke.



No its not. Look it up on the internet.

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posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Acid_Burn2009
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Who, whoa I am not defending Haliburton. I had to deal with them for quite some time and I can't stand them and their sub-standard services and "qaulity control"

Don't recall the poster that said something about AK-47 and the child in Africa.
Either way, some of you just do not understand any other culture then the one you live in. It's all you know because it is the way you have lived your entire life. I understand the point the poster tried to make. Unless you have been there and know the culture (not from tv or internet...but being physically immersed in the culture) you really don't know anything about it.
My only problem with your post is the statement that only special forces have the ability to determine correct targets. I can only speak from Marine Corps experience but we are highly trained in threat detection and positive ID before we discharge any rounds from our rifles. Not trying to be super dick here, but that just shows the ignorance in your statement. Before you get ticked off, look up the meaning of ignorant in the dictionary.

-Nate



I brought up the Child with ak-47 subject.

That poster was saying that No soldier should ever kill a child. and Then When I brought up a situation where one would have to kill a child, he just rants that you are just some corperate puppet who deserves to get shot at and blah. Hes a Total troll.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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I have no problem with our soldiers, and i respect and appreciate those of you who join the military intention of defending this country and representing us with honor (meaning you don't view the innocents on the other side as animals that should be treated inhumanely because their culture is different). Just keep in mind, you swore to defend our constitution, from enemies foreign AND domestic. Our government, the lawmakers who create our military policy, is corrupt to the core and have all been bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists of ALL kinds. Any action they wish to take should be suspect to the maximum. It should make you more angry than anybody that they are using our military to secure their financial interests.



I can only speak from Marine Corps experience but we are highly trained in threat detection and positive ID before we discharge any rounds from our rifles.


I don't doubt that, but you're not trained to get in and out before anybody knows you were ever there. Marines, or any other regular army, should never really be in a situation where you have to differentiate between a child and a hostile target. We should be doing everything in our power to take out extremists while making as little impact as possible on the civilian population. Otherwise, you'll NEVER win this battle, you'll only create more and more people who hate and want to kill you.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by Mikeyy
You just keep telling yourself that, next time you are in Afrika, and a 9 year old boy opens fire on you with an AK-47.


If i'm in AfriCa minding my own business, i don't see why a 9 year old with an AK-47 would have any interest in opening fire on me. If you're in Africa occupying somebody else's homeland, to secure the interests of greedy, fat corporate sons of bitches, you know, the ones who will use our military, and our tax money to expand their personal bank accounts, then you should expect to dodge a 7.62 every now and again. There is NO honor in killing kids, and there is no honor in the current wars being fought. Fighting terrorist organizations with uniformed military is ridiculous. Special forces hunter killer teams, who are DISCIPLINED enough to pick the right target, and good enough that a 9 year with heavy a$$ AK-47 can't get the drop on them, are who are needed for this type of asymetrical warfare, not large numbers of troops trained to fight OTHER troops. People don't like foreign troops laying down the law in their homeland. I don't blame them.



This is where you are wrong. People don't need you to give them ANY reason to kill you. If YOU walked down mainstreet baghdad right now, with a Sign saying "STOP THE WAR", You do realise that al qaeda would still abduct you, and cut your head off, to be featured on the internet.

It's not personal, its Business.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:24 PM
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Thanks Mikeyy...
Some people just do not understand any other cultures. I got what you were saying though.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by Acid_Burn2009
 


I have no problem with our soldiers, and i respect and appreciate those of you who join the military intention of defending this country and representing us with honor (meaning you don't view the innocents on the other side as animals that should be treated inhumanely because their culture is different). Just keep in mind, you swore to defend our constitution, from enemies foreign AND domestic. Our government, the lawmakers who create our military policy, is corrupt to the core and have all been bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists of ALL kinds. Any action they wish to take should be suspect to the maximum. It should make you more angry than anybody that they are using our military to secure their financial interests.



I can only speak from Marine Corps experience but we are highly trained in threat detection and positive ID before we discharge any rounds from our rifles.


I don't doubt that, but you're not trained to get in and out before anybody knows you were ever there. Marines, or any other regular army, should never really be in a situation where you have to differentiate between a child and a hostile target. We should be doing everything in our power to take out extremists while making as little impact as possible on the civilian population. Otherwise, you'll NEVER win this battle, you'll only create more and more people who hate and want to kill you.


Well there you go, hit the nail right on the head. Representing with honor, which is 99% of those in all military service combined. With that being said, how can anyone believe the accusations in the OP. Every military person I have ever met has/is served/serving wth honor and pride.

I think we may have gotten a little off topic man!!



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by Mikeyy
That poster was saying that No soldier should ever kill a child. and Then When I brought up a situation where one would have to kill a child, he just rants that you are just some corperate puppet who deserves to get shot at and blah. Hes a Total troll.


I never said they deserve to be shot at, i said they should expect it. Our soldiers DESERVE to be home with their families, ready to defend this nation against OTHER soldiers when needed, as they are meant to. If corporate bastards want to protect their financial interests, they should have to pay mercs, but they know it's cheaper to pay off a senator who can pull strings and get tax money and the lives of OUR soldiers to protect their interests. Anybody who feels a child's life needs to be snuffed out because they MAY be a threat at some time, deserves to be shot at. If it comes down to a kid pointing a gun at you, a good, honorable soldier would at least attempt to take the kid down non-fatally, IMO. Anybody else is a coward, IMO.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Mikeyy
This is where you are wrong. People don't need you to give them ANY reason to kill you. If YOU walked down mainstreet baghdad right now, with a Sign saying "STOP THE WAR", You do realise that al qaeda would still abduct you, and cut your head off, to be featured on the internet.

It's not personal, its Business.


Sure, that's what the corporate bastards who control the media want us to think. That they're all monsters, thirsty for our American blood. The vast majority of them are HUMAN, like us. They have HUMAN emotions, like us. Most people just want to go on with their lives without hassle. If a FOREIGN country invaded us here in the USA, i know for a FACT we would fight them, tooth and nail. And i know for a FACT the propaganda in their country would paint us as monsters, thirsty for THEIR blood.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by Acid_Burn2009
With that being said, how can anyone believe the accusations in the OP. Every military person I have ever met has/is served/serving wth honor and pride.


My comments weren't directed towards the story in the OP. They were directed towards those who feel the deaths of kids are justified. I can't see it that way, any honorable man should protect children, even those who are under horrible guidance. I hope the OP isn't true, but sometimes evil takes hold of once good men. The nazis were soldiers too, but some of them became monsters. They were human just as American soldiers are, why would we think that NONE of ours are capable of that type of attrocity?



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by Mikeyy
This is where you are wrong. People don't need you to give them ANY reason to kill you. If YOU walked down mainstreet baghdad right now, with a Sign saying "STOP THE WAR", You do realise that al qaeda would still abduct you, and cut your head off, to be featured on the internet.

It's not personal, its Business.


Sure, that's what the corporate bastards who control the media want us to think. That they're all monsters, thirsty for our American blood. The vast majority of them are HUMAN, like us. They have HUMAN emotions, like us. Most people just want to go on with their lives without hassle. If a FOREIGN country invaded us here in the USA, i know for a FACT we would fight them, tooth and nail. And i know for a FACT the propaganda in their country would paint us as monsters, thirsty for THEIR blood.


Well you are partially correct. A fair estimate...I would say 80% of Iraqis are just normal people that want to move on with their lives. However the other 20% are thirsty for our blood. I have walked down main street Baghdad (Where Sadaam's palace and the Ba'ath party house are) except I was not dumb enough to wear a sign!



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:51 PM
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How do you suspect a Russian or Chinese soldier would fare if they were walking down the streets of Dallas after invading and taking our government out? I don't think it's about culture more than the humiliation they must feel...



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 08:57 PM
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Hi 27jd,

I find it hard to believe that the military type can't seem to put the shoe on the other foot...

They can't seem to get it through their head that they are occupying someone elses country....and when they are shot at or rocks thrown at them.....that person is a insurgent or terrorist....no, it's just someone defending their homeland..

Just like we would do here...If Russia, China and Iran joined forces and invaded the U.S. I think we would all do what we had to do to get them out...and for doing that they would call us the insurgents and terrorists...

They don't understand that one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

And like Acid_Burn2009 said before, he knows he's there to 'line the pockets of Haliburton'......I don't get it...



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 09:11 PM
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posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 09:14 PM
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Really???? Wow, so you (and others) would trust that???? Let me ask you some questions. Be truthful. Take into a count I am not saying you are a bad person or would do any of these things so please do not read in to it that way. Say you frequent a park near where you live. It is a beautiful place and lets just say that it is a place you frequent to walk, exercise, relax etc.). One day why you are at that park a photographer/journalist for the local paper is taking some pictures for a piece he was doing about the park. He notices you walking along and ask you for an interview and you agree. He asks your opinion of the park, why you like it etc and then he asks you for a picture of you near the playground wheresome kids are playing to go with the article. You agree, innocent enough right? You go home thinking it was a cool experience. Sadly, you hear on the news the next day that a few kids that were playing at that park, on the same playground you posed in front of were raped. One was killed and the other left for dead (God forbid). Fortunately, there was a witness, who did not see the crime but saw the perputrator with the kids right before the attack. When questioned, the one left for dead and the witness describe someone that sort of fit your resemblence and that they were wearing similiar clothes that you wore to the police. The police go on the NEWS/MSM describing the monster that did this looking for info (with a sketch of the monster as described by the child and witness). Lets say the photographer/journalist sees the report on the news and he realizes that the children were hurt the day after he interviewed you and took your picture. Being a journalist he wants to scoop the story, so he looks at your picture. He studies it carefully against the description the victim gave (and sketch) and realizes you were wearing sandals and not boots like the attacker. And then he realize that your eyes are blue and not the "Scary dark brown/black" the child saw. He also realizes that you had on blue jeans and not blue jean shorts like the attacker. However, he sees some resemblance between you and the sketch of the attacker and decides to write up a story about the attack. He places the picture that he took of you, with the story, because you look similiar to the sketch and he wants a real picture instead of the sketch. In the story he doesn't specifically say it was you, but you "look a lot like the attackers sketch" and that is why he used the picture to describe the events". The police, the childrens parents along with the one withness read this article and see the picture. They are out for justice, and they decide it had to be you despite the obvious descrepiencies. You maintain your innocence, but when the boy (and witness) see you in a line-up they realize you look a lot like the attacker and point you out because in their minds they are convinced. Sketches aren't accurate but pictures are! Let's say you have no real alibi, you slept all day and night (the day it happened) and you were home alone with a migraine or something and you did not talk, get on the internet or see anyone at all. Now, they have all this evidence against you, and you cannot disprove anything. They arrest you and the whole town is convinced that you did it despite your innocence. Even your high payed lawyer tells you to take the plea-bargain of 30 to life (as opposed to the death penalty) because you cannot win. What would you do? Pictures do not lie right? Eye witnesses are never mistaken right? If the criminal looked like you, was pointed out to be you by the victim (and witness). They had a picture of you at the same park at the place where it happened (with kids in the backround) that matched the sketch and descriptions given. You say it's just a picture of me its a coincidence. They say guilty? Would you be mad at the reporter for using your picture for it because he needed something to "describe" the story? Be honest



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