Originally posted by TarzanBeta
Originally posted by _SilentAssassin_
I'm just going to keep this simple ok.
Because I'm tired of reading threads about this.
The Universe and God is the same and we are all parts of a Cosmic Organism.
I'm going to keep this quite simple as well.
The creation CANNOT BE THE CREATOR.
The CREATOR IS WITHOUT CREATION, not WITHIN.
The Creation is in the LIKENESS of the Creator and His Surroundings, but IT IS NOT THE SAME.
Use some LOGIC.
Well it could be the same. I like to think of life / existence as sand. You can mold castles out of it, they look like castles and can be called
castles but it will always be sand.
Life is the same I'm sure. We're all atoms shaped to look like humanoids but we're all just atoms. Our consciousness is the same as the next
person. Take away my memories and genetics and we are all the same "life form". What I see through my eyes is the same as you. What separates us is
genetics, upbringing and experiences.
Here's another fact. I can tell you I am 23. This body however, is as old as the universe. I have always existed just not as you knew it.
Apparently if you go smaller than the atom, we are just energy. This makes everything the same thing.
My personal belief is that we are one mass consciousness that you can label as god. Experiencing itself in different states. If I was a giant
collective blob of life capable of making decisions and creating life in myself.. I guess I would because I'd be bored, happy and curious about the
results. Just because I might be called "god" doesn't mean I can see the future of the results.
To extend on that.. I see time as a distance. You can't see where you'll be in 10 minutes because you haven't traveled there yet. When I type
"now", then type "now" again.. Time has passed between the first now and the second, therefore I have traveled a distance. We are constantly
Here's something else to think about. All knowledge exists right now. The wheel, before it was created by man already existed. He only put it
together. All the knowledge in my head already existed, I only acquired what was already existing. A collective knowledge.
I was questioned by a good friend about social interactions, do they already exist? I said yes, they would have to already exist otherwise they
couldn't happen. Like a computer, it can't spit out an unexpected result. You can't create a new color.
People get stuck on "creator without creation". I like to think of it as there was no creation. There was only existence. A lot of people keep
thinking you can't have a kid without parents. I like to think of the collective, mass existence of all that packed into one thing. Like this:
((GOD[mum][child][dad]GOD)) We think of these things, within the grand existence. But that's only a linear description. I think the mass
consciousness is multi-layered so all the possibilities exist.
I find this quote from the bible, quite interesting:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him,
and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the
darkness did not comprehend it." John 1:1-5
I'm not a fan of the bible.. But there are certain things in there that are certainly interesting.
If you read this far, great.. Comment..
My conclusion about life and the afterlife:
Our memories are physically stored in the physical brain. Our memories are what make us individual.. When we die, it all returns to the ground. Like
they say "dust to dust". I guess if the mass consciousness if real/true, it can decided whether to keep us in another state / form.
My other thought is, seeing as we are the mass consciousness.. We just return to it as 1 collective entity.
[edit on 7/1/2010 by nightrun]