Let's Talk About Pornography For A Sec

reply to post by ModernAcademia


No, it's nothing like that. You asking and wanting more detail leads me to believe you might be interested in it. Again, you're more of a vanilla guy, so if you don't want to see extreme stay away from the foreign stuff.

reply to post by the_grand_pooh-bah


We wouldnt look at you twice... Go hide under the rock that hides the rock that made you.... Pathetic..... That IS me in my avatar, but you will NEVER have it... Only REAL DECENT men need apply... The rest can disolve in the waste basket of the pacific....

Originally posted by Polynomial C
There are some videos from India where the man Fractures the arm or leg of a woman .. then has sex with her .. while she is in pain .. there more men come into action .. let just say she ended up with 4 fracture limbs ..

that's horrible
although that is horrible I don't find it worse
it won't cause people to rape

reply to post by Selahobed

I'll type slow so you can understand babe,
Im in the Caribbean not the Pacific and you said your friends not you.
pretty girls usually hang with other pretty girls.
you are too crazy for me but maybe your friends.

but i'm too busy for girlfriends right now,i'm relying on prostitutes.
working on my projects.
In mexico,its legal here,like god intended.*not a belief in god but cultural cliche

you know nothing about me yet hate me already for commenting i thought you were attractive.




[edit on 7-1-2010 by the_grand_pooh-bah]

reply to post by Selahobed


This is insanity, and you're simply attempting to pigeon hole men into the customs and norms that society say they should conform to.

The OP and the Sela above are CORRECT on many levels...

I don't actually know about Rape as an issue there is a major demotivating factor in regards to Male Orgasm and release...

None the less a careful observer will notice that Women very often will wax anti porn while men will support it in these debates...

What the Guys are missing is that there is a perceived threat... to many women...

It's realistically a lot simpler than the hardcore debate about rape or violence...

Porn will FETISH a guy, what you choose to wank to, will fixate as your primary thought to achieve orgasm...

It DOES NOT make you a good lover, your not going to end up fixated on a woman in RL but rather unattainable fantasies, both lowering your arousal for your real partner and contributing to an unhealthy sex life...

Porn, damages Marital and monogamous relationships.. The reality is a woman can achieve as many Orgasms as she likes when mentally and physically in the right place, a man never can.... it's also a lot easier for a woman to find a perspective partner, so in reality even though women aren't defending it, they could successfully become a pseudo porn addicts and maybe achieve that kind of sex life while few men ever could...

What i'm saying is... Men are defending porn but it hurts them more than women

Second

Masturbation is NOT actually good for you, it's not healthier than sex, as you get older you can't actually keep BOTH up effectively and it's useful maybe at best until your early 20's beyond that, it makes you tired, less energetic and less likely to pursue RL females... (and i think it's fair to say this rightfully should disturb females) (who for the record actually have far more intense sexual capacity to fulfill than we do)



Let's just cut to the bottom line...

Porn does suck for our society, not for evil or moral issues but some very simple truths...

A woman, rather have a MAN who doesn't waste 2-3 of his 5 erections of the day on a video monitor, can only get it up if she wears certain shoes or clothes and occasionally ejaculates too fast because he is used to the ol 1.5 minute self quickie as Love Making or simply suffers from ED because she can never match his taste for the "perfection" of a porn star...

You can Love Porn all you want... but it wont get you laid and likely wont get you laid a 2nd time by performance even if you do...

Not saying it should be illegal

Just that most damage is done to ourselves via he freedoms of our own hand...











[edit on 7-1-2010 by mopusvindictus]

Originally posted by Selahobed
reply to post by the_grand_pooh-bah

 

We wouldnt look at you twice... Go hide under the rock that hides the rock that made you.... Pathetic..... That IS me in my avatar, but you will NEVER have it... Only REAL DECENT men need apply... The rest can disolve in the waste basket of the pacific....

Wow, with a mouth like that why would a "decent man" apply?

I'll give it a miss thanks.

It's attitudes like this that helped me decide to be celibate. sheesh!


That's one less "friend" on my list....pity.

[edit on 7/1/2010 by nerbot]

Originally posted by EMPIRE
This is insanity, and you're simply attempting to pigeon hole men into the customs and norms that society say they should conform to.

I gotta disagree here man
Men should be Men!

At the end of the day let me tell you, if you were what she is describing you should be, you'd be happier yourself and feel good for being such a person

reply to post by nerbot


woah c'mon bro.
don't go all celibate on life just because some crazy split-tail got ya down!

rent a girlfriend,
much better plus you can have quiet time to yourself for free and can upgrade to a better model every day if you like.
I support single moms!

[edit on 7-1-2010 by the_grand_pooh-bah]

reply to post by the_grand_pooh-bah


dude that's pathetic man
I don't think prostitution should be illegal that's just pathetic
and sometimes I do think it should be illegal

do you know what these women go through?
gang rapes, beatdowns, torture, daily slaps and so on and so on

You have to understand guys...

Women are PISSED...

Your saying "why would I apply"

Another guy above refers to his relations with "prostitutes" you mention celibacy (which is actually a good idea from time to time"

None the less there is a MAJOR Western crisis in Masculinity

Porn and Masturbation are NOT helping...

I'll say what I hear and PISS OFF EVERY GUY IN HERE

In adult life... for chemical and lifestyle reasons both, HUGE numbers of Men...simply can't please or keep up with a real woman sex drive anymore...

RAPE is a HATE crime...

So in a way is Pedophilia a Hate crime against women by men who feel inadequate... turn to children.

For decades sperm counts have been dropping like a stone...

A big aspect of this is chemicals like Phylates and other Estrogen mimicking substances in everything from plastics to pesticides slowly accumulating...

A second trend is the information age.... sitting on your arse and never getting any Exercise to raise Testosterone levels...

Diet, hormones in things like Milk...

Then add to this...

Kinsey and the PUSH for boys to masturbate, from our Govt and education system... Orgams makes a man tired, this goes directly against Thousands of years of sex study in most cultures world wide, you don't want to Encourage males to wank all the time, it makes us stupid and lazy...

Then add to this Porn...

No need to pursue women or unrealistic mind set on what you can actually GET coupled with... less ability to make it happy when you do get it...


These Women have a right to be pissed... Society has us wasting our Genitals on ourselves and our keyboards not them... it's a negative trend...







[edit on 7-1-2010 by mopusvindictus]

reply to post by nerbot


A decent man would ask me out to a nice secluded eatery, where we can get to know each other.. Then walk me home, have a kiss if its right, then become the highest on my agenda ever as I think about cooking him a nice meal after work then massaging his back... Sex WILL happen but when i am appreciated and loved beyond the two bit 5 second ham shanks you guys love soo very much.... He who lives by the sword will die by the sword, and he who lives in filth will be overwhelmed by it... But you will NEVER get a woman like me.... Enjoy your filth; writhe in it, coz the thought of guys like you makes my skin crawl.... Yuk.... And the women who I counsel thinks the same..... xxx

reply to post by mopusvindictus


pornography is an inanimate object.it has no will and isn't good or evil.

people break up marriages not pornography.

I agree about masturbation,i'm lazy i prefer to get someone else to do it for me.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


First off you don't know if I'm a male or female. I've never hinted at my gender on ATS. Moreover, you are well within your right to disagree, but she is attempting to pigeon hole men and place them in whatever box she wants. For a long time men in this society have been walking on eggshells, and this can be attributed to the feminist movement and men wanting to keep other men down (which is another topic all by itself.) The point is, there is blatent hypocrisy when it comes to how men should behave. And who said that men should behave this way as opposed to that way? Who set the standard and why is it accepted?

reply to post by ModernAcademia


None of the women i've been to have been and if they had they would have gone to the police.

have you ever been to one or been one?
how the hell do you know?
I'm sure there is sex slavery,but every prostitute out there isn't a sex slave.
MOST are independent.

I am too busy to jump through all the hoops just to satisfy a drive i can have dealt with through money

reply to post by Selahobed


See, this is the lunacy I'm talking about.

A decent man would ask me out

Why should a decent man ask you out? If you're a decent woman why can't you ask him out? Oh, because women don't ask men out? Because women face rejection? What about when a guy gets shot down?

to a nice secluded eatery,

Who's to say you deserve to go to a nice secluded eatery? For all he knows you could be an ice queen or a "princess". What have you done to deserve a meal at a secluded eatery? NOTHING. What more guys need to start doing is starting things off with the basics. Meet for coffee, drinks or tea in a neutral and well lit place, not some secluded place that women fantasize about. Refrain from pick up lines, refrain from sexual talk, refrain from touching all over her, refrain from speaking as an idiot and use tact and grace. Remain calm but be assertive, but most importantly, listen to her.

where we can get to know each other..

See above.

Then walk me home,

No, walk yourself home, better yet drive yourself home. You're stuck in a warped fantasy realm.

have a kiss if its right,

Go in for a kiss and if she kisses back you're in. She turns away or stops you it's dead. In any event I'd still advise a guy to play hard to get and not even play into the madness.

then become the highest on my agenda ever as I think about cooking him a nice meal after work then massaging his back... Sex WILL happen but when i am appreciated and loved beyond the two bit 5 second ham shanks you guys love soo very much.... He who lives by the sword will die by the sword, and he who lives in filth will be overwhelmed by it... But you will NEVER get a woman like me.... Enjoy your filth; writhe in it, coz the thought of guys like you makes my skin crawl.... Yuk.... And the women who I counsel thinks the same..... xxx

FILLER.



[edit on 7-1-2010 by EMPIRE]

Originally posted by EMPIRE
First off you don't know if I'm a male or female. I've never hinted at my gender on ATS. Moreover, you are well within your right to disagree, but she is attempting to pigeon hole men and place them in whatever box she wants. For a long time men in this society have been walking on eggshells, and this can be attributed to the feminist movement and men wanting to keep other men down (which is another topic all by itself.) The point is, there is blatent hypocrisy when it comes to how men should behave. And who said that men should behave this way as opposed to that way? Who set the standard and why is it accepted?

Firstly this entire post hints at your gender

Secondly men have been walking on eggshells?
Like raping women?
Like men being paid higher salaries then women as a trend?
Long time? How long, like since women weren't allowed to vote?
How about men leaving a pregnant woman or baby mother?

Originally posted by EMPIRE
No, walk yourself home, better yet drive yourself home.

You just forfeited this debate

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by EMPIRE
No, walk yourself home, better yet drive yourself home.

You just forfeited this debate

No, because when you're just meeting someone you shouldn't want them knowing where you live. They could be the RAPIST you're so fearful of and talking about.

I can tell you've probably never had a date before.

reply to post by Polynomial C

The only problem with this idea is that in recent decades the incidence of rape has dramatically declined.

Perhaps its more fair to say that the number of rapes REPORTED has declined. Not every person raped reports that violation to the authorities.