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Man threatening to `kill all the Jews' taken off Miami flight, arrested

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posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:00 AM
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Man threatening to `kill all the Jews' taken off Miami flight, arrested


www.miamiherald.com

An Ohio man who became loud and disruptive aboard a flight from Miami to Detroit -- at one point shouting ``kill all the Jews'' -- was removed from the airplane and taken into custody by Miami-Dade police

The man arrested was identified as Mansor Mohammad Asad, 43

When Asad was taken off the plane to be interviewed by police, he threatened officers, made racial comments and charged an officer

Asad was ``loud and disruptive, using anti-Semitic references such as, `I'm Palestinian and I w
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posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:00 AM
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Wow what a weird story to say the least, what was he drunk or something?

During this time of hysteria who in their right mind would do something as stupid as this, was this complete idiot drunk or something?

I think they might have mentioned in the article that his breath smelled like alcohol if it did, I don't know but it just seems like such an odd story to me right now.

www.miamiherald.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:08 AM
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So next time I'm stuck for 6 hours on a plane not going anywhere all I have to do is say "Steward, I would like to kill al the Jews" and they'll take me back inside and put me in a comfortable chair?

Nice.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:13 AM
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Gee, for some reason my first reaction to this tale is one of cynicism

That's what happens when people cry Wolf, Wolf, Wolf so often

And it's probably the most sound reaction in face of the garbage spewed by certain vested interest groups

Us and them: Vested Lying Interest Groups on one side

and not-so-dumb 'average citizens' on the other


Who writes the scripts for these 'news items' ? Whoever they are, they're being paid way too much



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:17 AM
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reply to post by Dock9
 


Oh give yourself a break luv... Go on "joos joos joos baaaad" stomp your feet, get it out of your system... You will feel a lot better...



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
So next time I'm stuck for 6 hours on a plane not going anywhere all I have to do is say "Steward, I would like to kill al the Jews" and they'll take me back inside and put me in a comfortable chair?


It may seem ironic but your statement is probably very correct. The man in question in this case will probably never get on a plane again. I had something similar happen to me one time, the plane was still on the ground though. Removing people this disruptive is something that I think should be done.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:27 AM
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Is this stuff just in the news more lately or is someone / people making a real effort to fluster the security? It could be fake fake fake and then play.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:44 AM
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things that don't add up.



Passengers on the plane told police Asad was ``loud and disruptive, using anti-Semitic references such as, `I'm Palestinian and I want kill all the Jews,' ''
BUT

Asad was speaking in a foreign language, thought to be Arabic.


how did they know what he was saying?


then there's this:

He then prayed and chanted, before telling a cop to ``Go back to Africa, you white racist cop!''


say what? a white racist cop should go back to africa?



this sounds like a concocted event, perhaps by some loons (4 people were detained, only one made the article) to, maybe, see how the passengers and flight crew would react.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:46 AM
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This is an act of jihad with the purpose of instilling fear in non-muslims. The goal is to spread Islam. Muslims have been doing this for 1,400 years.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
This is an act of jihad with the purpose of instilling fear in non-muslims. The goal is to spread Islam. Muslims have been doing this for 1,400 years.


oh is that what it is?
ok thanks for letting us know
your infinite wisdom knows no bounds!



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 11:02 AM
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Asad's son, 27-year-old Mickey Asad, told The Associated Press that his father suffered from bipolar disorder and was in and out of mental institutions when he was younger.

"He's far from a terrorist," said the younger Asad. "He just lost his temper. There's no excuse, but someone had to have pushed his button"

www.msnbc.msn.com...


So it's either the above or mike_trivisonno's theory.

hmmmmmmmmm



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 11:22 AM
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Maybe it is just a case of somebody having too much to drink and speaking their mind. It does sound strange, but then again so do many things you hear about these days.

At least this dispels the myth that Muslims don't drink alcohol.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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Reminds me of a post I made yesterday on another thread.

Abdullah el-Faisal connection to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

www.nytimes.com...

in a May 2005 online posting under the name “farouk1986,” Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the suspected Christmas Day 2009 Flight 253 bomber, referred to El-Faisal, writing: “i thought once they are arrested, no one hears about them for life and the keys to their prison wards are thrown away. That’s what I heard sheikh faisal of UK say (he has also been arrested i heard).

So where is this Jamacian man Abdullah el-Faisal ?

www.revolutionmuslim.com...

'Kenya Unable To Deport Jamaican Cleric'
Wednesday, 06 January 2010 20:12 Abdullah as-Sayf NAIROBI, Kenya, Jan 6 - Controversial Jamaican Muslim cleric Abdullah al-Faisal who was deported from the country on Monday through Tanzania has been returned to Kenya after authorities in the neighbouring country declined to receive him, police sources said.

Police and Immigration officials who had escorted him to Tanzania were unable to get him through to the neighbouring country and had been staying with him at the border until Wednesday morning when they escorted him back to Nairobi.

“He was escorted back to Nairobi and is currently at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport. We are pondering the next move,” a police source said.

Police Spokesman Erick Kiraithe who had confirmed Al-Failal’s deportation earlier on Tuesday was not immediately available for comment.

He had said “Al-Faisal is no longer in the country because we have deported him to Jamaica through Tanzania.”

A group of Muslim leaders led by Al-Amin Kimathi said they had spent the better part of Wednesday at the JKIA trying to seek audience with the cleric in vain.

“The police are totally violating Al-Faisal’s rights. They have unsuccessfully tried to deport him. All the countries have declined to receive him and now they are keeping him here at the airport,” he said.

“We have information that they are planning to deport him to an unknown country tomorrow morning (Thursday). We don’t understand why they are not allowing us to see him. We went with a lawyer ready to represent him but they have declined us access,” he added.

Al –Faisal was arrested on Thursday last week, shortly after attending prayers at a mosque in Mombasa.

Police and Immigration officials said at the time they arrested him for “violating Immigration regulations.”

He had been accused of engaging in preaching, contrary to immigration procedures which did not allow him to engage in such an activity.

So is this guy going back to Jamaica to do his jihad preaching. So now we have to worry about something happening closer to home.

I noticed that the person who just started running the web site above. Abdullah as-Sayf Jones, however was born as David Scott Jones into an average American family of Italian-Irish background. He grew up like every other kid living in lower-class Brevard, Florida. And they seem to be really promoting him as the next extremist jihad preacher to be.


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posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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globaljihad.net...


An airline passenger in Miami, identified as Mansor Mohammad Asad, 43, proclaimed on Delta Flight 2485 "I want to kill all the Jews" before police forced him off a Detroit-bound plane, authorities said Wednesday 01/06/2010 night.

Mansor Mohammad Asad of Toledo, Ohio, was arrested Wednesday night, according to a Miami-Dade Police Department statement (see also -US Toledo Cell ). Mansor Asad was charged with threats against a public servant, disorderly conduct and resisting an officer without violence.

FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela said there were no indications the disturbance was related to terrorism. The bureau was initially brought in to look into the incident but is no longer involved in the investigation. She said the FBI is treating the disruption as a matter for local authorities.

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Toledo Cell


On 02/21/2006 a grand jury in Toledo, Ohio, decided to indict three USA residents: Mohammad Zaki Amawi , born in 1980, a dual citizen of Jordan and the United States; Marwan el-Hindi, born in 1964, a naturalized citizen born in Jordan; and Wassim I. Mazloum, born in 1982, a legal permanent resident, with conspiring to kill American forces in Iraq as part of an Islamic Holy War against the United States.

Mohammad Zaki Amawi, the ringleader, was also charged with making threats to kill President Bush.

According to the indictment charges the suspects solicited help from an individual identified as "the trainer", who is described as a citizen with experience in the United States military. Much of the case against the men appears to come from the testimony of that individual. "The trainer", his real name is Darren Griffin, according to intelligence sources was a former special forces soldier recruited to serve undercover for the FBI and used the Islamic name Bilal.

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More on Toledo Cell

Little things seem so much more when you look a little deeper.

[edit on 7-1-2010 by JBA2848]



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 11:47 AM
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In all fairness it’s been insanely cold the past six days here in Miami. We are in a record long cold snap with temperatures 20 degrees below normal.

I too am desperate to find someone to vent on at this moment and to hold someone accountable! I have been forced to do things like wear pants instead of shorts, shoes instead of sandals, and go shopping for things like knit caps and gloves which are not easy nor cheap items to find in Miami. Needless to say this has made me a bit cranky as well!

Tourists who were expecting our typical 78 to 85 degree winter weather instead have gotten robbed with 55 degree highs and 40 degree lows.

If I should stumble across anyone associated with HARRP let me just say it wouldn’t be pleasant and they would be arresting me too!

As usual though I suspect most of this story is fabricated for propaganda effect. Most Arab and Islamic Americans I know do feel that Zionists have hijacked the American Media and Government and often complain about that.

No telling where they got a bizarre idea like that from?



P.S. If anyone working at HARRP is reading this I am getting really annoyed at this point! Really annoyed! Hint, now be a good boy and reach for that dial or Proto will be having a talk with Santa!

[edit on 7/1/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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Yeah, it sounds that way.. That an meds can make a guy/gal do weird stuff or be less inhibated.. I feel sorry for the guy.. He obviously has issues, and i think the police may have been too heavy handed and unmercifull with him... In the end of the day all he did was shout a few words.. Not very nice words but words all the same.. As an arabic speaker i would have known what he said, and as a jew wouldnt have liked it, but as a human being I would have let it go and try to understand.. This guy doesnt deserve to be in jail; he deserves our love and prayers...



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 12:32 PM
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globaljihad.net...


Witnesses told investigators who boarded the plane that Mansor Asad was loud, disruptive and claimed to be Palestinian. Officers didn't find any weapons or explosives on Mansor Asad, who was reportedly agitated and aggressive at times, according to an arrest affidavit. Authorities used a stun gun to subdue Asad on the jet bridge after he charged at an officer with fists clenched. He also chanted in a foreign language and threatened officers during a search.

"I'm not afraid of you cops, I've gotten in fights with cops in Ohio and broke their arms in three places," he said, according to the affidavit. "I've broken skulls too!" The affidavit noted that alcohol didn't appear to be a factor during the incident.

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So he wasn't drinking alcohol.



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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According to Miami-Dade police reports, here's what happened:

The plane was taxiing when a flight attendant alerted the captain of a passenger ``talking in a loud tone of voice and stating that he is Palestinian and that he wanted to kill all the Jews.''

As the flight attendant tried to give instructions before taking off, Asad, who was in seat 14-A, was loud once again. He was drinking a beer, apparently from the first class cabin where his daughter was seated.

At points Asad was speaking in a foreign language, thought to be Arabic.


MiamiHerald.com

Gee I wonder who we should believe, the Miami-Dade Police Department or a reputable source like GlobalJihad.Net!



Thankfully we can all tell there is no bias on your part based on your sources of information.




posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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MK ultra/manchurian candidate anyone?
Or just plain mad?



posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 12:56 PM
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Oh and this source is the clerk of the court Toledo Ohio! And there is more I just didn't want to take up to many pages on this thread.
Theres a lot more articles that say the same thing.

Besides do you want to take his or his son side when they have records like this.


Defendant Case Number Date of Birth Charge
ASAD, MICKEY CRA-03-12323-0102 08/26/1982 PERMITTING DRUG ABUSE amended from TRAFFICKING IN DRUGS PREPARE
ASAD, MICKEY CRA-03-12323-0202 08/26/1982 DRUG POSSESSION OFFENSES;OBTAIN, POSSESS OR USE A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE


ASAD, MANSOR CRA-08-04374-0101 04/08/1966 BURGLARY

ASAD, MANSOR CRB-01-16547-0102 04/08/1966 CRIMINAL TRESPASS
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-01-16547-0202 04/08/1966 DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from DC INTOX;CONDUCT WHICH PRESENTS RISK
ASAD, MICKEY CRB-02-01036-0101 08/26/1982 TRAFFICKING IN CIGARETTES WITHOUT A LICENSE
ASAD, MANUEL CRB-02-11818-0101 02/04/1979 DISORD CONDUCT;ENGAGE IN FIGHT/THREATEN
ASAD, MONEER CRB-03-00409-0101 06/09/1983 TRAFFICKING IN HARMFUL INTOXICANTS amended from PERMITTING DRUG ABUSE VEHICLE COMMISSION OF FELONY DRUG ABUSE OFFENSE

ASAD, MANSOR CRB-04-08086-0101 04/08/1966 DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from DC INTOX;CONDUCT WHICH PRESENTS RISK
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-04-08249-0101 04/08/1966 DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from DISORD CONDUCT;ENGAGE IN FIGHT/THREATEN
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-04-12626-0101 04/08/1966 DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from FIREARMS DISCHARGE RESTRICTED

ASAD, MANSOR CRB-05-00239-0103 04/08/1966 ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS;PARKING
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-05-00239-0203 04/08/1966 ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS;PARKING
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-05-00239-0303 04/08/1966 ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS;PARKING
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-05-02852-0101 04/08/1966 DISORD CONDUCT;CREATE CONDITION OF RISK
ASAD, MANSOUR CRB-05-04206-0101 none PERMITS;INSTALL/ALTER MECHANICAL EQUIP




ASAD, MANSOR CRB-06-00784-0101 04/08/1966 SURFACING & DRAINAGE

ASAD, MANSOR CRB-06-19718-0101 04/08/1966 COMMERCIAL CODE SCOPE AND INTENT;EXISTING STRUCTURES SHALL BE ALTERED OR REPAIRED UNLESS EXEMPTED
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-07-09556-0103 04/08/1966 AGGRAVATED MENACING
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-07-09556-0203 04/08/1966 AGGRAVATED MENACING
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-07-09556-0303 04/08/1966 DOMESTIC VIOL;CAUSE FAMILY MEMBER TO BELIEVE OFFENDER WILL CAUSE IMMINENT PHYSICAL HARM

ASAD, MANSOR CRB-08-07924-0101 04/08/1966 OBSTRUCTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-08-07932-0101 04/08/1966 DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from DISORD CONDUCT;UNREASONABLE NOISE//
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-08-09049-0101 04/08/1966 DUMPING OR PERMITTED DUMPING PROHIBITED
ASAD, MANSOR CRB-08-19242-0101 04/08/1966 TAX: FILE INCOMPLETE / FALSE/ FRAUDULENT


The blanks are where I removed other records belonging to defendants named ASAD

www.tmc-clerk.com...

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