Sweatshirt Sparks School Controversy, page 1
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reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 08:57 AM by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by adifferentbreed



I love that shirt. I want one, where Can I buy one? I am so serious.

The Last time I checked the Untied States of America was about Freedom of Speech and Expression, Was the sweater in poor taste? Yes. Should they be penalized because we are an over sensitive society which cant make it through the day with-out some Valiums? Hell NO.... The right to be stupid is guaranteed under the First amendment....

I still want one of those sweater just because it caused such an uproar. I am willing to pay for it


reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:00 AM by adifferentbreed
reply to post by KrazyJethro



I didn't really see it as simply a matter of poor taste. And again I wonder what the parents were thinking?


reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:13 AM by adifferentbreed
reply to post by Hack28



Children in school, are under a different form of rule. Anything distracting is not allowed. Let's suppose for an instan that another student in that school had a relative that died in one of the twin towers. Said student whips one of their butts for wearing it, did it cause a distraction, did the student commit a hate crime, how much can the parents sue for, etc etc? It's not just a constitutional matter at that point.


reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:18 AM by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by yeahright



If thats the case then every school child in the USA needs to wear school Uniforms, that would cut this stupid monkey # out, dont ya say....

I still want one of those shirts.


reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:19 AM by MadameGuillotine
reply to post by yeahright



I completely agree. There is time and place for everything. If the boys wanted to wear this outside of school, that is their constitutional right, But there are standards and rules in places we go, schools, churches, other people's homes.

That is not squashing anyone's rights, it is enforcing the rights of others in these places.

If someone came into my home and started spouting any sort of rhetoric I found offensive, I had every right to kick them out, that isn't squashing their rights it is protecting mine. The same goes for schools, it isn't just the manner-less children who have rights, what about the others?

Waving around the constitution is not a way to get around rules. The founding fathers would be appalled by these shirts, so standing behind the constitution won't wash.


reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:21 AM by JBA2848
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh



Where does it say proud to be American?




reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:30 AM by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by JBA2848



It can be interpreted a bunch of ways.

You can't bring us down as in what happened wont phase us. Or you cant bring us down as in we'll take them down again using the high school mascot, which is weird. Or, the mascot has no connection whatsoever to the towers. Or the image isnt meant to depict the towers so many are assuming it does.

Just as one can start running around yelling about it being "unpatriotic" another can spin the same image and claim it virulently jingoistic.

The image alone doesnt really have any meaning. Perhaps those interpreting it the "wrong way" should be suspended? Unless one of these kids comes out and says the meaning was intentionally anti-american we cant conclude the image actually is.

If anything, the only thing that may be safe to assume is that those interpreting the image as anti-american are getting their cue not from the image but from the ethnicity of those wearing the image.


reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:40 AM by JBA2848
reply to post by thisguyrighthere



But to assume innocences of the picture based on no information is the same as assumeing guilt of the picture unless you figure out what the intentions of the children are. I only brought up the above links to show that children are not above being used as pawns for extremist.

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