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Only one percent of the Holocaust claims can be proven - Says Holocaust Scholar and Expert

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posted on Jan, 7 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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Nazi=Not SEE

It could also translate to Nazi = Not Me




posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:30 AM
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Robert Jan Van Pelt; yeah Robert "VON" Jan Van Pelt...
Come on, this guy sounds like he's got a German name, are you really going to listen to this B.S.

I don't think you need to know much more than reading this dudes name to know how full of S#@! he is...



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 12:33 AM
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Why don't you take a tour of the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. and Deny some Ignorance...



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by queenannie38
explain how?
what does this telegram have to do with what i said about Stalin in the post you're referring to?


i'm not sure what you mean


You quoted a post where Beancounter72 said this



Keep in mind that Auschwitz and other camps in eastern europe fell within the soviet zone of occupation and therefore they had ample opportunity to fabricate evidence such as the alleged gas chamber at auschwitz.


and replied with



good point.



Indicating that you believe the Soviets perpetuated a myth, and that you agreed with Beancounter72's assessment in denying the holocaust.

So I provide you with a link to an telegram intercepted and decoded by British Intelligence in WW2 (heres the link again) from 1942, referring to the arrivals in the camps at;

Majdanek
Belzek
Sobibor
Treblinka

Giving the figures, and total number, in regard to Operation Reinhard

And you want to try and hide behind a secondary point about Stalin - an obvious one by the way because every allied power was gunning for Berlin.

Really?



[edit on 8/1/10 by neformore]



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 02:11 AM
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What if...what if (and I'm playing devils advocate here), if Hitler was actually onto 'them'? Its interesting and since I was a kid living in Germany I always wondered why they don't teach the holocaust in school. A lot of Germans act like it never happened. 'What if' is all I'm saying. I'm not a nazi, just a college student who likes to ask questions, so please don't flame me for this post.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 02:20 AM
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The word Holocaust first derived from The Roman Catholic Bible / Douay-Rheims Bible / The New American Bible.
It doesn't appear in the King James Version or any other translation of the Bible.

It is however used more than 150 times in the The Roman Catholic Bible/Douay-Rheims version / The New American Bible.

Example:
The Roman Catholic Bible Douay-Rheims translation:
And you shall offer a holocaust for a most sweet odour to the Lord.

King James Version + any other version of the Bible translation:
And ye shall offer a burnt offering for a sweet savor unto the LORD.

The word Holocaust has neither a Hebrew, Yiddish, German or English origin.

The signing of the 3rd Reich: Pope Pacelli sings over the 3rd Reich (rights to govern over Germany) to the Roman Catholic Church on July 20, 1933.
It was recorded and photographed.

The Holocaust was just a big scam.
(fun fact not 1 single so called Jew died in 9/11.)
Khazar Jews are not Biblical.

Hitler was actually a Jew himself and he was traced to being in the Rothschild family, he left and changed his name as much famous/infamous Jews do.



[edit on 8-1-2010 by EndOfTheWorld7]



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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The number 6 million is an estimate based cumulatively on numerous indpendent sources, Nazi documents, occupied country governments, consistent accounts, trial testimonies, etc.


Absolutely not. The 6 million figure is based on nothing but religious fanaticism. It's impossible to argue that the 6,000,000 figure is the result of any type of scholarly or scientific appraisal. I consider that PROVEN by my previous post.

Why don't you lot stop the usual 'i have holocaust survivors in my family', 'my friends liberated the camps' and 'there are warehouses full of Nazi documents to prove it' bull# and try and face facts and reality?

If you don't mind, I'm quite curious about something: how much does the Israeli government pay you to hijack threads with senseless driveling? The only reason I say that is that if this is simply a question of semantics then maybe you should consider hiring me. I'm positive I can do a much better job of obfuscating the facts, confusing issues and ridiculing truth.

So here is my challenge to all those who say the figure of 6,000,000 is based on solid evidence.

Why has the NYT been repeatedly gracing us with the same figure since 1917? (at the time ALL the top editors were Jewish, but I suppose that means nothing....) Not once either, check my post two pages back....we are dealing with repetition ad nauseum.

There is no answer, except that you are full of crap, same as the NYT.

The following quote supports my affirmation that the NYT was dominated by Jewish interests, as some of us can and do support their points:

“Exploiting this atmosphere [of anti-fascism], and Gentile guilt about the
Holocaust, American Jews of my generation were emboldened to make them
themselves culturally conspicuous, to flaunt their ethnicity, to find literary
inspiration in their roots, and to bask in the resurrection of Israel. […]
Instead of idols and passions, I worshiped words and argument, becoming
part of an unashamedly Jewish verbal invasion of American culture. It was
especially satisfying to realize the wildest fantasy of the world’s anti-
Semites: Inspired by our heritage as keepers of the book, creators of law,
and storytellers supreme, Jews in America did finally achieve a disproportionate
influence in universities and in all media of communication.
[…] Within a few years of Punch’s ascendancy [“Punch” Sulzberger, Owner
of the NYT], there came a time when not only the executive editor – A. M.
Rosenthal – and I but ALL the top editors listed on the paper’s masthead
were Jews. Over vodka in the publisher’s back room, this was occasionally
mentioned as an impolitic condition, but it was altered only gradually, without
any affirmative action on behalf of Christians. […]
And I wrote in confidence that The Times no longer suffered from any secret
desire to deny or overcome its ethnic roots.”

(Former chief editor Max Frankel)

Dear, dear....it's not looking too good for the '6 million is a documented and exact number but if you can prove it isn't then the number is not really relevant to the uniquness of our suffering' crowd is it?


[edit on 8-1-2010 by D377MC]



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by EndOfTheWorld7
The word Holocaust first derived from The Roman Catholic Bible / Douay-Rheims Bible / The New American Bible.
It doesn't appear in the King James Version or any other translation of the Bible.

It is however used more than 150 times in the The Roman Catholic Bible/Douay-Rheims version / The New American Bible.

Example:
The Roman Catholic Bible Douay-Rheims translation:
And you shall offer a holocaust for a most sweet odour to the Lord.

King James Version + any other version of the Bible translation:
And ye shall offer a burnt offering for a sweet savor unto the LORD.

Holocaust has neither a Hebrew, Yiddish, German or English origin.

The Holocaust was just a big scam. (fun fact not 1 single so called Jew died in 9/11.)
Khazar Jews are not Biblical.

Hitler was actually a Jew himself and he was traced to being in the Rothschild family, he left and changed his name as much famous/infamous Jews do.


Hi There Jew Hater,

At the risk of further inflaming this "boil",

So you reckon that since the Catholic Church used the word, and it's not in the "King James" Version or any other. This is absolute proof that the innocent Nazis have been defamed.

You're like a bible yourself, not a single Jew died on 9/11. In fact, I can't refute that because I have never asked.

I think I can safely tell you that Jews are pretty biblical, all your bibles have no Jews?

I think God is a Jew. But I can't prove that either.

If the word has no "origin" it does not exist, so, Never happened.

Here is a fun fact for you, there are almost no Nazis left.

Awesome post.

Ziggy - The Jew



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 03:01 AM
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Wow you are a really disgusting person. If jews have money and this much influence then why the # am i living with my dad? Where the # is this secret society of jews who are supposed to bail me out of my financial woes? Where are they?



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 03:34 AM
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You will need to do your own research for a comprehensive answer, but I will nevertheless let you in on a little secret.

Those who are running the world off the edge of the cliff are not Jews, and anyone who says so has fallen for their stratagems. Jews are simply a racial vehicle for a Luciferian agenda.

'I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. ...'

When the # hits the fan, real Jews will be hung out to dry (along with Christians) just as Zionist leaders did during WW2, when they refused numerous offers to save desperate Jewish populations because they thought that their suffering would more effectively further their cause. The existence of the state of Israel is proof enough they succeeded.

Were Jews treated horribly during WW2? Absolutely, it was part of the plan. Tortured? Oh yeah. Dr. Mengele's experiments need no comment, they were the basis for the CIA's MKUltra program.

This is not about racism. You've been conned. Wake up.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 03:38 AM
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Look, let me break it down for you Nazi boy.

Your evidence is irrelevant, and your claims are absurd.

But most of all it's the source. The source is compromised. You're the source. Get it! It's circular. It's BS cause you said it, You void the source's legitimacy by quoting it.

The world is moving on, History is OK. We chose to go with reality.


Ziggy The Jew



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by DeathShield
Wow you are a really disgusting person.


NO
this is what is disgusting:


Hi There Jew Hater



I don't think you need to know much more than reading this dudes name to know how full of S#@! he is...



over any gullible conspiracy theorist any day.



Can you say "Neo-Nazi"?



It raises real questions of how people can become so twisted.



their pervy hate fantasies


that's just a few...i got tired of looking after about five pages or so.

:shk:

plain ugliness
no excuse for it, people!
no matter what you believe



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 03:50 AM
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posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 03:59 AM
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You say that German children don't learn about the holocaust in school?
The opposite is more true, German children learn more about the holocaust than any other child in the world!!!



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by D377MC
The 6 million figure is based on nothing but religious fanaticism. It's impossible to argue that the 6,000,000 figure is the result of any type of scholarly or scientific appraisal. I consider that PROVEN by my previous post.

Why don't you lot stop the usual 'i have holocaust survivors in my family', 'my friends liberated the camps' and 'there are warehouses full of Nazi documents to prove it' b*ll# and try and face facts and reality?

If you don't mind, I'm quite curious about something: how much does the Israeli government pay you to hijack threads with senseless driveling? The only reason I say that is that if this is simply a question of semantics then maybe you should consider hiring me. I'm positive I can do a much better job of obfuscating the facts, confusing issues and ridiculing truth.

So here is my challenge to all those who say the figure of 6,000,000 is based on solid evidence.

Why has the NYT been repeatedly gracing us with the same figure since 1917? (at the time ALL the top editors were Jewish, but I suppose that means nothing....) Not once either, check my post two pages back....we are dealing with repetition ad nauseum.

There is no answer, except that you are full of crap, same as the NYT.

The following quote supports my affirmation that the NYT was dominated by Jewish interests


Nice to meet someone so dedicated. Of your 21 messages on this forum, 20 are Holocaust Denial with a wealth of ancient article quotes to further your cause.
Don't strain your eyes too much reading the tiny print in those New York Times articles. Out of curiosity what exactly what drives you to go through newspapers archives from a century ago? Are you looking for something in particular?

The Department of Disinformation at Zionist Headquarters is currently paying 6 figure salaries for special secret agents to disrupt threads on conspiracy sites.

I'm afraid your style is a bit too foaming at the mouth rabid mad dog for current needs.





[edit on 8-1-2010 by mmiichael]



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 04:13 AM
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Out of curiosity what exactly what drives you to go through newspapers archives from a century ago? Are you looking for something in particular?


Yes, evidence to refute liars.



The Department of Disinformation at Zionist Headquarters is currently paying 6 figure salaries for special secret agents to disrupt threads on conspiracy sites.


I guess they can stick with incompetent idiots then.

And of course, yet no answer regarding the legendary 6,000,000. I guess that's why they hire inadequate individuals in the first place - they are never meant to get involved in scholarly debate. It does make sense, although I'm sure I can build a pretty convincing case on the need for you guys to raise your game.

This is worst than amateurish....



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 04:20 AM
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DAMN IT YOU EXPOSED OUR SECRET! TURN IN YOUR JEWNIGRAPH AND BALLISTIC BAGEL GUN AT ONCE!



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 04:28 AM
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Come on, think about something.

What do you think the Secret Services of WWII did during wartime? drinking lemoncellos in Istanbul ?
No, they knew about the camps. They wanted to find out why trains were taken away from the frontline to provide "prisoner transportation" while whole divisions were waiting for food and ammo on the front. They found out, told their leaders, and the leaders decided to act as if they knew nothing.

_ photos could be taken from the air due to dedicated recon teams using fighter planes carrying cameras. ( you must have seen guncam videos at least once on the internet )
_spies are supposed to get information about tiny details of the enemy. If you spend the whole wartime pretending not having seen 6 million people being deported and mass murdered ( and i'm not talking about documents from the Wehrmacht/German Army ) your secret service is useless.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 04:29 AM
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I'm sorry but when people are accusing you of lying about one of the worst things to happen to you since Toquemata you get very sensitive about the issue. Do you want to know what is truly disgusting? The fact that despite all evidence you insist of revising history? Why? Why does it matter if less than 6 million jews died? What really drives you? Why are you so hellbent on proving this notion that somehow the jews are this corrupt group of people who are purposely making up a genocide? If the truth really was on your side, if this was a fact as you say it is, then why in the hell did they even bother to bring it to attention? Why is it that thousands of jews, US SOLDIERS, russian soldiers and THE GERMANS THEMSELVES admit that 6 million of us jews and six million non jews were destroyed? Is it because of some scary zionist plot? I got news for you, the holocaust happened and millions of innocent people from all races and faiths were destroyed. Yet irrational closet neo-nazis such as yourself insist that history needs to be revised.



Let's say that the numbers are exaggerated only a few hundred thousand jews were killed. The mere fact that you want to rewrite history in order to make the nazis look like innocent aggressors is disgusting in itself. Hitler was a #ing madman, he was bat# insane without anti-semitism, he wanted to conquest the entire planet, yet people like you would have us believe that he was somehow an innocent pawn in a far greater globalist agenda.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 04:36 AM
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Ever thought about the money that's involved?
The holocaust being used as an excuse for Israel's aggression?



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