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Why I will not fight the Illuminati

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posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by network dude

Originally posted by sadchild01


these illuminati are destroying culture,livelihood of indigenous people and use IMF and american army as a means of mass genocide , you are disgusting ,

as you want to reduce population , you can start by killing yourself , i will give you darwin award for that

[edit on 8-1-2010 by sadchild01]

[edit on 8-1-2010 by sadchild01]


could you point me toward "these Illuminati"? I would like to have a word with them. Just let me know where to find them. An address, a P.O.Box, or even a phone number. Thanks, I'll be right here.


You want to let you fingers do the walking? Try popsicles! They even come in, Purple!

Just let it out, there are those of us who are not going anywhere. Darwin award, I hear they also come in "purple".

Popsicle, anyone?





posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 01:57 PM
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If you know anything about "The Strawman Illusion" then that is reason enough for me to fight them. However, if it's about music then maybe you should check out the album I Heard It Today by Mr.Lif, has more sound and more meaning then Lady Gaga could ever hope to acheieve, but it's really all about opinions, you have yours and I have mine.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by agentofchaos
If you know anything about "The Strawman Illusion" then that is reason enough for me to fight them. However, if it's about music then maybe you should check out the album I Heard It Today by Mr.Lif, has more sound and more meaning then Lady Gaga could ever hope to acheieve, but it's really all about opinions, you have yours and I have mine.


Are you directing your comment to someone specific, or is it meant for everyone?

;D

I will check out the album, but don't be surprised if I only give it the enthusiasm you give to Lady GaGa! Reversed polarities are usually indicative of something, but, I wouldn't like to say what of course! Or why?!

Opinions, right?



[edit on 8/1/2010 by EnemyCombatant74]



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 02:25 PM
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If there's any sarcasm, that's between the lacking beaver and me.

So, if the Roman Catholic Church has anything but an adversarial position with the Illuminati, is Dan Brown trying to pull the wool over our eyes?

If Ms. O'Brien was abused by any institution, and those are my choices, I think my choice has been made for me.

I do factually know that the mental health wards historically have been rough places. People were abused and raped by the staff all the time in them.


[edit on 1/8/2010 by EnlightenUp]



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to post by EnemyCombatant74
 


If there's any sarcasm, that's between the lacking beaver and me.

So, if the Roman Catholic Church has anything but an adversarial position with the Illuminati, is Dan Brown trying to pull the wool over our eyes?

If Ms. O'Brien was abused by any institution, and those are my choices, I think my choice has been made for me.

I do factually know that the mental health wards historically have been rough places. People were abused and raped by the staff all the time in them.


[edit on 1/8/2010 by EnlightenUp]


Right, by the staff! 'Cause a hospital is just a buillding. An institution. An idea! It can't rape someone, it isn't alive!


It only has meaning, or value, when WE asssign it one. Ms. O'Brien may or may not have been modified. I wasn't there, I wouldn't know. Dan Brown may or may not be trying to pull wool, from my vantage point, he looks more into bank statements, than good ol fashioned, honest to goodness truth.

But than, judging by his covers, that's his job! To stimulate our brains! Good on him for turning a dollar on some kool information! He isn't advertising himself as a messiah, so I don't have a problem with him.

I should have read his books by now, but I haven't been granted the time.


We'll see about future endeavors though...

as for the Catholic Church, they live up to their name, day in, and day out. So much so, that we shouldn't even be bringing it up! We know exactly what to expect from the church! So, pay and pray, or pray and stay?

Whatever, right?



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by EnemyCombatant74
Right, by the staff! 'Cause a hospital is just a buillding. An institution. An idea! It can't rape someone, it isn't alive!


There is the peculiarity of objectum sexual where one could conceivably delude themselves into thinking an inanimate object is the perpetrator of invasive and malicious actions. In this particular variant, the object may perform acts of rape or abuse rather than being an object of affectionate feelings.

Clearly this Illuminati with suitable transferrence can be imbued with a certain incestuous proclivity, if not downright sexually offensive, a candidate for inclusion into the local sex-offender database. As said above however, not of its own accord.

If it did anything to you that resulted in lasting trauma, you were seducing it.


as for the Catholic Church, they live up to their name, day in, and day out. So much so, that we shouldn't even be bringing it up! We know exactly what to expect from the church! So, pay and pray, or pray and stay?

Whatever, right?


Catholic - CHECK!
Church - CHECK!



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by EnemyCombatant74
Right, by the staff! 'Cause a hospital is just a buillding. An institution. An idea! It can't rape someone, it isn't alive!


There is the peculiarity of objectum sexual where one could conceivably delude themselves into thinking an inanimate object is the perpetrator of invasive and malicious actions. In this particular variant, the object may perform acts of rape or abuse rather than being an object of affectionate feelings.

Clearly this Illuminati with suitable transferrence can be imbued with a certain incestuous proclivity, if not downright sexually offensive, a candidate for inclusion into the local sex-offender database. As said above however, not of its own accord.

If it did anything to you that resulted in lasting trauma, you were seducing it.


as for the Catholic Church, they live up to their name, day in, and day out. So much so, that we shouldn't even be bringing it up! We know exactly what to expect from the church! So, pay and pray, or pray and stay?

Whatever, right?


Catholic - CHECK!
Church - CHECK!


you can take the sex of inter and session, yes, but out of atom particles, and bing bang theories, not with ease to say the least!

Check, on the proclivities, as in, mate! ;D Staying within certain atomic principles of course! Butterflies, anyone? What if I said, Monarch:
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by EnemyCombatant74
you can take the sex of inter and session, yes, but out of atom particles, and bing bang theories, not with ease to say the least!

Check, on the proclivities, as in, mate! ;D Staying within certain atomic principles of course! Butterflies, anyone?


Not with ease, if successfully armageddon, however poorly managed. Tune in the dials. It might be surprising that HD was always available in your area.


What if I said, Monarch:
www.youtube.com...


What if you did say? I might say "Queen Elizabeth I".

Post-climactic stars give the crabs.



posted on Jan, 8 2010 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by EnemyCombatant74
you can take the sex of inter and session, yes, but out of atom particles, and bing bang theories, not with ease to say the least!

Check, on the proclivities, as in, mate! ;D Staying within certain atomic principles of course! Butterflies, anyone?


Not with ease, if successfully armageddon, however poorly managed. Tune in the dials. It might be surprising that HD was always available in your area.


What if I said, Monarch:
www.youtube.com...


What if you did say? I might say "Queen Elizabeth I".

Post-climactic stars give the crabs.


just, LOLZERF'INGCANNONZYO!



posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 06:27 AM
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posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Discordian Queen
 


Interesting thread, you make a lot of good points.

Perhaps I can convince you somewhat how negative this will become. It's really not about symbolism, it's not about one world religion, it's about the control and the LACK of freedom that such a society would come with my friend.

It's not really about anything. There is no group organized enough to push an agenda across generations that would have complete continuity of intention. The human life span makes this virtually impossible. If an idea can be propagated through persuasion, there must be something to it.


Think about it, have you read 1984? It's happening now. Personally, I don't want any form of government giving a damn about me or my daily life. Or my salary or my children or anything.

I'm an intelligent well educated adult and deserve to be left to my own vices, aren't you?

I am sick of people attempting to tell me that their way of doing things is better. Who are they to limit and stiffle my creative mind and my choices about my life in general or those around me?
NO one limits you now so why would you assume that's true? You are fully allowed to exercise your creativity and express your thoughts and voice your opinions freely and openly are you not? Please explain how your aren't if so.


Who are they to decide what my money or hard workd is worth? Who are they decide what kind of medications I have access to?
NO one decides this but you and your own ambition. You decide what you are worth. As for medications, those are discovered and offered for your use. Again, your medication comes through consultation with your physician who is a professional and should be better able than you, who are uneducated medically to help you make a decision regrdaing treatment of yoru own maladies.


You see, control is the goal. Population control, sure I agree, I think we need to drastically reduce it, over a long period of time, not some mass genocide, just ease off the births for a while.
Control is not the goal. Harmony is the goal. In the industrial world, you aren't finding genocides going on. It is n the uneducated wild lands where you find this type of exercise. Pretty much exclusively.


That's already happening today however, more and more people are having less and less kids, and also that homosexuality is becoming prevelant among us (and it always does in other species when population becomes too numerous) we are headed that way.
People in industrial nations have been keeping their family sizes down for more than a century really. Since ww2, in industrialized nations, the size of the family is flat 2 parents and 2 kids is the average I believe. Homosexuality is at about 1.3 % of any given population. It's hardly prevalent, but we are more aware of it because of the gross abuse of the rights of the people who are homosexual. It is the majorities failings that have brought this into being.


I'm not afraid of any one group, be it NWO or illuminaty, but when it comes to my rights, they should be my rights, and I will fight anything who tells me I can't do something.

~Keeper
If you want to do something that will bring harm to others, then you better be prepared to fight friend, because someone will stop that behaviour in you right quick. But if you want to do something that is legal and worthwhile, it is unlikely you will be challenged.

While we each are individuals, we are none of us an island. For us to all live together harmoniously, we must respect the commons. It is that simple. Don't create strawmen for yourself to burn down. It does no service to forwarding your own life.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by Discordian Queen

I don't care if they're trying to kill off a religion, mainly because it's a crappy religion that breeds hatred, homophobia, and bigotry.

Sure, Mk Ultra is pretty scary, but also pretty awesome that we can mold someone's mind like that.


wait you say that Chatolic church is not ok because of homophobia but in same time its ok for nwo to kill half people on earth btw who says that you wouldn't be one of them ???

and in same time you say that spreading hate by talk is bad but controlling someone's mind is "pretty awesome"

I don't love chatolic church but nwo is at least 100 times worse



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 08:33 AM
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thank you for saying so! very articulate! very insightful! just, thanks with a bump!



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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I imagine, after reading every one of your posts, shouting a great HAIL ERIS.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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"I'm not afraid of any one group, be it NWO or illuminaty, but when it comes to my rights, they should be my rights, and I will fight anything who tells me I can't do something"

i agree on everything youve said about freedom but we have to be flexable to some extent. doing what you want isnt always what other people want, an extreme example a man may want to kill your family, thats not fair now is it, so where do you draw the line between doing what you want and having free will, and creating laws to protect people against free will, the answer is always democrazy the voice of the majority. the only problem with a one world order is the fear of supresion of the people. in our current state we have lots of governments and counrties and when a government becomes too oppresive of its people others step in, the fear of a one world government is that without external presures to keep then inline they may just mislead or confuse the public into agreeing with them, also the sheer diversity of a one world government would be insane to manage. youd have different countries ethics and policiies and cultures to deal with in one government.

having a one world governement of the PEOPLE would be fantastic if managed properly, having a one world government of tyrany is what people wouldnt settle for. i think this to be a very unliky eventuality the police and army arent brainless idiots they are people two and would recodnise tyrany when its prevelent, just like germanys self made assisnation attempts on hitler, so would the world rebell against any supression on its people.

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posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by popilluminati
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I imagine, after reading every one of your posts, shouting a great HAIL ERIS.


lol...well i did a bit of that! and from time to time still do!

i like all the colors tho, ya know! something about unadult-ered fun!



posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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I somehow doubt that you won't fight the Illuminati if what we hear is true. You see we are hard wired to fight for our lives. You already know the warning signs and when you see them coming you will fight. I may be wrong but I highly doubt that most people on these boards are above instinct. You know that depopulation will be a tool. You will have a shot at being a casualty or working the field. Unless you absolutely know that you will be working in the field then you will fight. Good luck. We will all need it.

[edit on 17-1-2010 by ventian]



posted on Jan, 17 2010 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by ventian
I somehow doubt that you won't fight the Illuminati if what we hear is true. You see we are hard wired to fight for our lives. You already know the warning signs and when you see them coming you will fight. I may be wrong but I highly doubt that most people on these boards are above instinct. You know that depopulation will be a tool. You will have a shot at being a casualty or working the field. Unless you absolutely know that you will be working in the field then you will fight. Good luck. We will all need it.

[edit on 17-1-2010 by ventian]


there is nothing to fight but the enemy within...depopulation is not a tool, it's a "toll", plain and simple...all you have to do is want to keep going on, keep living your life...go to movies you want to see, listen to albums you want to hear, and as much as possible, avoid the "conflict zones"!



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 04:35 AM
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Do the ends justify the means?

Such incredible goals that most people, in principle would agree with. It all does sound grand... and too good to be true. Noone except the elite will be raised up by these agendas. The rest will be cogs in an even more wretched system than exist today. Although scaled way back for management purposes. I`m not religious but I am very interested in what some religions have to say... and all that comes to mind is... Know them by their deeds......

If the idea was to really benefit humanity as a whole. Why would the case not be stated clearly, passionately and openly? The power exist to guide these plans openly and with major approval if a majority of rational people could see it`s inherent virtue.

The problem is when you delve deep enough, it is all to clear the goal is to elevate them above us, splitting the races and having one becoming completely subservient to the other.... Hence, why subterfuge and mind control and conditioning is necessary..... The intentions are not pure or benificial to anyone but the elite. I believe most of the earths major problems could be fixed rather quickly, if only the most important problems of control and administration could be dealt with. It seems when any well intentioned person(s) assumes or is delegated control of a given situation, the immediate and sometimes only issue is keeping that control. Damned be anything else, so long as I`m king of hell.

If their intentions were as good as they seem, looking at the issue from a positive perspective. Then none of the actions would ever be necessary or desirable. (MK Ultra) Most people will do what appears right to them until they are corrupted by power or fear. These groups obviously want human beings to do things most people would not consider right.

And whoever said "The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions." was seriously on to something, especially in relation to the illuminati.

I`m not trying to get to biblical or advocate ignorance, that is rampant in too many religions.... I would agree with killing 10,000 to save 1,000,000 I like to think I`m logical... but I have to wonder what if I`m conned into killing 10,000 not to save 1,000,000 but do them no good or even worse further the one millions destruction by the action of culling 10,000.. where does that leave us ethically if we do just that... only on a much larger scale, and the proportions reversed?

Not in a very respectable spot as a race.. right around par with a virus.

If we follow their plans, let`s hope materialism is absolute, and death is really the end, and we are alone in the universe,no god(dess) to only be judged by ourselves, and our posterity. Because anything sane rational or compassionate would surely dispose of it upon inspection, and a higher evil would only consume it, I don`t see a middle ground where everything is just peachy...considering the methods used to accomplish the goal.

Maybe I`m just paranoid and over-analyze.... but I`m gonna side with their ideas are about as bad as it gets, for anyone who values freedom and individuality.

I`ll oppose them until I feel they are acting for the benefit of all, or as many as possible. Everything I can find suggest these plans are for the benifit of a vey few. It`s a Big F^ckin club and we`re not in it... in the words of Geroge Carlin.



posted on Feb, 8 2010 @ 07:19 PM
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not fighting the illumnatia is a mistake...you are just giving up to people that can and will destroy the common man if we want to stop any chance of this from happening we must start a revolution that will destroy major companies and the people behind the scene...whatever whe the common man do must be done before December 12, 2012 because a major change is coming for everyone...and it rest with us to decide whether its for the betterment of humanity of for the enslavement...its your decision what will you do with it?



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