Breaking: Dutch Authorities Claim No Accomplice in Airport; Contradicts Eye-Witness Account

reply to post by Highground
I like your sense of humour High Now, what about this little, very recent(relevant) story,

new.u.tv...

This guy got through TWO airports carrying plastic explosives
Bejabers, it's a story on its own.

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reply to post by smurfy


I believe there's already a thread about that, however I will answer. I think it was stupid as hell to do something like that, regardless of whether the explosives were real or not. Innocent people could have been killed in crossfire (or direct fire in terms of the carrier), not to mention the types of "interrogation" the carrier may have been subjected to as a result of his being volunteered for such actions. It was completely reckless and irresponsible.

Or did I miss something specific in that article that's related to this one?

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reply to post by Highground
I checked, but could find no thread here. The explosives were real, just no detonators.

edit to add, I see it now, a very new thread. BTW, In my last post I was referring to your post about the number of days. The other thing is my source is a different one, coming from UTV news, but the real point is that Dublin is very cross with Slovakia and rightly so, but not so much comment on their own failings...a bit like the Holland airport scenario, don't you think.









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reply to post by smurfy


Yes, I got what you were referring to

I just was trying to connect the dots between this article and that one... I didn't know if there were dots to connect, or if you thought it was an interesting side note given the topic of this... topic.

reply to post by Highground
Well, it's all happening at once and I'm not the fastest typee on the planet. If anything, anybody flying will now have a full body scan, British airports are supposed to be in three days? I hope these scanners are not X-ray orientated, I have a broken ankle at the moment and have been X-rayed every week for a month so far.

video.yahoo.com...

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Glenn Beck interviewed Mr. Haskell on his radio program today. At first I believed Mr. Haskell was very credible. My opinion quickly changed after Glenn Beck asked Mr. Haskell to describe the man to a sketch artist that Beck would provide. Mr. Haskell quickly declined claiming he couldn't remember what the individual looked like. He went on to say he doubted he could remember what the individual looked like even if he was placed under hypnosis. One would think Mr. Haskell would be able to describe the individual while under hypnosis if he actually saw what he claims he saw. I don't know what his motivation is behind his claim, but I have doubts he is being truthful.

Originally posted by Ratisch
Glenn Beck interviewed Mr. Haskell on his radio program today. At first I believed Mr. Haskell was very credible. My opinion quickly changed after Glenn Beck asked Mr. Haskell to describe the man to a sketch artist that Beck would provide. Mr. Haskell quickly declined claiming he couldn't remember what the individual looked like. He went on to say he doubted he could remember what the individual looked like even if he was placed under hypnosis. One would think Mr. Haskell would be able to describe the individual while under hypnosis if he actually saw what he claims he saw. I don't know what his motivation is behind his claim, but I have doubts he is being truthful.

I disagree. I see no reason for Mr Haskell to lie. Unless you are directly interacting with a person you really would not be able to describe someone in great detail.

When I went to work this morning I rode up the elevator with two other people. Since I never interacted with them I probably couldn't even pick them out of a line up let alone provide details to a sketch artist. I can tell you that it is a fact that there were two other people in the elevator with me but I have no idea what they looked like.

reply to post by jam321


Miss read story,comment with drawn.

Zelong.



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I'm not surprised that the authorities claim that there was no one else involved. With no one to prove them otherwise, they are free to say what they want while undermining the credibility of Mr. Haskel in the eyes of the media which influences the public.

What we should demand is the Director of Amsterdam Airport Security, any and all security surveillance experts that delivered the tape and everyone who viewed it to certify under oath that nothing exists. Show the public who these professionals are if there is no other man. Then I would ask why not release the video in view of so many people stating nothing exists. While I don't see this happening I am not the least bit surprised by this announcement. It's just a sad attempt to once again deceive and misinform the public for reasons that do not appear ethical or moral and further proves that expecting the government to tell us the truth is indeed an fantasy.

Originally posted by Erasurehead

Originally posted by Ratisch
Glenn Beck interviewed Mr. Haskell on his radio program today. At first I believed Mr. Haskell was very credible. My opinion quickly changed after Glenn Beck asked Mr. Haskell to describe the man to a sketch artist that Beck would provide. Mr. Haskell quickly declined claiming he couldn't remember what the individual looked like. He went on to say he doubted he could remember what the individual looked like even if he was placed under hypnosis. One would think Mr. Haskell would be able to describe the individual while under hypnosis if he actually saw what he claims he saw. I don't know what his motivation is behind his claim, but I have doubts he is being truthful.

I disagree. I see no reason for Mr Haskell to lie. Unless you are directly interacting with a person you really would not be able to describe someone in great detail.

When I went to work this morning I rode up the elevator with two other people. Since I never interacted with them I probably couldn't even pick them out of a line up let alone provide details to a sketch artist. I can tell you that it is a fact that there were two other people in the elevator with me but I have no idea what they looked like.

Then would you be able to positively and conclusively say that a man you saw hours later was absolutely the same guy you saw earlier? Either he was paying enough attention to recognise the man again, or he doesn't know what the guy looks like. Can't have it both ways.

The lag between the release of the videotapes and the incident itself raises suspicion. If someone could inform me as to how a videotape of an airport, something that we all know is there, can compromise national security I'd be all ears.
The opportunity to either refute or corroborate the eyewitness's story has been available since the get go. We already have multiple pictures of the Nigerian man all over the news. I wonder what a few screenshots of him in an airport would give away. Nothing, I'm thinking.

Originally posted by Ratisch
Glenn Beck interviewed Mr. Haskell on his radio program today. At first I believed Mr. Haskell was very credible. My opinion quickly changed after Glenn Beck asked Mr. Haskell to describe the man to a sketch artist that Beck would provide. Mr. Haskell quickly declined claiming he couldn't remember what the individual looked like. He went on to say he doubted he could remember what the individual looked like even if he was placed under hypnosis. One would think Mr. Haskell would be able to describe the individual while under hypnosis if he actually saw what he claims he saw. I don't know what his motivation is behind his claim, but I have doubts he is being truthful.

How 'bout Glenn Beck stop asking the guy to remember specific details about the well dressed man's facial features, and start demanding the videos from the airport (I think most of us know why already)? Haskell said the well-dressed man was of Indian appearance and "well-dressed", he didn't say the guy had high cheek bones, a mole under his left eye, and hair like Jimmy Johnson.

Discrediting tactics people.....learn them.

Peace

Originally posted by jibeho
Well, I guess we were all expecting this type of response sooner or later. So the nation that is responsible for this terrorist bypassing current protocol, is the first to throw up the chaff.

I just hope that Haskell has the wherewithal to make through the coming onslaught of doubt and inquiry.

Apparently, neither the FBI nor the Dutch authorities have asked for his help in identifying the alleged accomplice by having him view any surveillance video. I suppose the authorities are currently scrubbing the tape to make Haskell look crazy. I'm sure they will let him have a peak when the tape is clean.

biggove rnment.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

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You must realize that the Schiphol authorities have send the passengers list to the US before the passengers where able to board and before the plane took off. After the US custom[or any other home land security] gave green light the plane made its way to Detroit.A detail which might give u a reason to call it a false flag.But a major flaw is that the US and its allies and their airports work with at least 5 or 6 different black lists, some of them contain about 40.000 people.The suspected terrorist had a passport and was checked, although not good enough..

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reply to post by Dr Love


Are you trying to claim that there is only one well-dressed male from India in an airport?

eta Not to mention the second witness that "corroborates" Haskell's story said the man was Middle Eastern.

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reply to post by Highground


Haskell said he appeared to be Indian to him, he didn't say he was Indian. Again, he chose his words carefully.

And I'm not trying to claim anything, I certainly wouldn't want to add strawman to the argument. God knows, they'll be plenty of people trying to do that later on.

Peace


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As I've said repeatedly, while in Amsterdam Haskell probably caught a bit of actual airport drama as a Sudanese refugee was having trouble with his paperwork and an Asian man intervened on his behalf. Haskell would have taken little not of details, it wasn't something terribly irregular.

Hours later when they catch the attempted bomber, a young black guy, Haskell says "Wait, that's the same guy."

He made a mistake. It happens all the time as police and courts have shown.

Now he's on record and it's getting all this attention.

People do make mistakes - but they're usually forgotten. But Haskell is dinong out on this one.

It will be referenced by conspiracists forever who so ferventlywant to believe all authorities are lying and anything anyone else says is always the complete truth.

reply to post by mmiichael


We still have the account about a second man being escorted away in handcuffs and the account from another passenger, returning home from Ethiopia, of a man with a video camera calmly filming the whole incident on the plane.

I am sure those reports have been discredited by now.

Wheres the check-in clerk and their evidence ?
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