Originally posted by Phedreus
I Do believe that you have it bas ackward. The problem right now is the poor marginal people of the world population who are reproducing like rabbits;
while the more advanced and superior cultures are seeing their birthrates fall. The problem is not that there are too many people in the world, but
rather that there are too many nonproductive people in the world trying to live off a dwindling producing class. ....
Thanks Phedreus, I think your post deserves a star, though I’m not totally agree with details.
We have large scale experiments conducted around us, we can lear from them. Speaking of Chinese, once they declared a war on sparrows, killed them
off, to improve the grain harvest or something. In the end they ended up worse off.
The problem is not in population control but who controls it. All you need to do is to leave people alone, or at least have a fair system, and all
will be well. Give some credit to our ecosystem that existed for some time before we claimed it as ours and will exist for some time after we're
gone. Instead of jumping to conclusions about overpopulation, global warming and other global nonsense we really should take time to learn and
understand our environment and ourselves. There are so many things that could go horribly wrong by our messing about with population in any direction,
over- or under-. Any alarms of this sort usually come from vested interest groups who intend to control the movement if it picks up for who knows what
No little group should decide how the bulk of the system should behave. We are too stupid for large scale control of anything, besides there is no
need for it. It has been tried with financial systems and markets, politburo planning of production, mass centralized farming and who knows what else.
Just to put things into perspective, physicists cannot directly describe interaction between more than two items
( n-body problem (n ≥ 3)
), it is only done by using math tricks. We don’t understand beyond
two! In other words, the best of us have no clue how the large system behaves and self regulates. My point is, don’t try to break things you have no
clue how to fix unless you have a lot of those things and you're breaking them in order to understand them, and the price is not too high (morally,
financially or otherwise).
We live in a self regulating system which will work ok as long as 5 arrogant bastards are not allowed to direct the evolution of this system. Anyone
who coded wolf and rabbit simulation ( see one of numerous examples here
in their first year can tell you the answer to this moronic obsession with control. Once the system wobbles around the equilibrium (which in our case
it is) it will sort itself out, unless asteroid hits the planet or 5 stupid fu&£rs think they are so smart that the world needs their help. I am of
course talking about none of the participants of this forum. Some people here just explore the idea and were duped into this fallacy. Just don't fix
it if it aint broke. Listen to wise men throughout the ages, they say, one should mind his own business and any changes he wishes to do must not go
outside his realm.
Make somebody happy today. Mind your own business. ~Ann Landers
Just remember, there's a right way and a wrong way to do everything and the wrong way is to keep trying to make everybody else do it the right way.
~M*A*S*H, Colonel Potter
Practical life teaches us that people may differ and that both may be wrong: it also teaches us that people may differ and both be right. Anchor
yourself fast in the latter faith, or the former will sweep your heart away. ~Augustus William Hare and Julius Charles Hare, Guesses at Truth, by Two