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Still think aliens are here to 'help mankind evolve'?

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posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:08 PM
there is more than one race of aliens, so one incident shouldn't speak for the entire extraterrestrial populace.

gotta love logic!

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:10 PM
reply to post by Moonman1111

"The body was found on a in the Guarapiranga reservoir, located in the southern area of the city of São Paulo, Brazil."

And just how do you come to the conclusion that this wasn't perpetrated by a Human being, albeit a pretty disturbed human being, but a human nontheless...

Mutilations of people have happened before, the fact that it's gruesome doesn't automatically qualitify it as a non-human incident...

Just some barbaric human...

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:13 PM
Actually this case occurred on the 29th of September 1988, if it's the same one I am thinking of, but it could be another case altogether. Let me give you all a bit of advise, some people here would give anything to contact a UFO and that is in a way understandable. But if you ever find yourself face to face with one, just quietly turn around and walk (dont run) away, and be thankful for the experience. Never aproach one, point at it, wave your arms or shine a light at it, just quietly leave.

There are many different races visiting Earth, some quite friendly, some don't care and have no interest in humans, and as you now know some are distinctly evil and do not posssess emotional feelings as humans do, of any kind. There are 3 races which periodically visit that are so devoid of emotion and/or mercy that we cannot comprehend them, and would not want to.

The instruments used on this poor guy make cuts on a cellular level, that is, they make an incisions which navigate between cells causing no damage to them, true bloodless surgury, and although the technique is the same, it is not the same race/s responsible for animal mutilations, nor for the same reasons. Nor was this poor fellow the only Earth human to endure this type of treatment.

The only reason we know of this case is because somebody stuffed up and released the details before they were aware of exactly what they were dealing with, but "the cat is out of the bag" at least in this case.

Anyway, make of it what you will, but you can be sure of these facts, it did happen, the victim was one of us, he suffered, it is documented, instruments used unidentified to this day, this will likely happen again at some point,,,
,,,and we will not know about it.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:21 PM
reply to post by randyvs

-you know this is a great idea for a M rated Xbox or Ps3 Game!

Anybody played DeadSpace?

-on topic, just because the mutilation is rather horrific -to non-medical- people, does not mean that this was the work of an Alien...

-what a ridiculous idea.

-if this was true or actually happening, the government would be fighting and you would know about it... this would be a worldwide issue...

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:28 PM
interesting... I'd seen that story before and wasn't sure what to think about it

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:28 PM
Who knows what they are here for, except the magestics, they are multidimensional...

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:34 PM
reply to post by Nventual

I have to agree totally with every word.

It must be a great view of humanity from the moon man!

Anything that can be imagined, has been imagined and probably has been carried out.

Moonman seriously c'mon! You don't see how the mind of a human being could come up with this and carry it out? COME ON! You're a militant christian? I thought violence, suffering and torture were you guys specialist subjects!

This is one sick murder perpetrated with readily available instruments, but aliens! This case has been done to death move along or go and read the earlier discussions by more knowledgeable and sain ATSers.

Oh and on the whole: aliens are benevolent, or are they? I'm totally with you. I think it's dangerously naive to assume more advanced life is less violent. All our evidence for life tells us one thing. Predators are always at the top of the food chain. And anyway, aliens could quite believably be inferior in terms of evolution and spirituality to us. The only reason we've not spread our seed to the stars is because we're individuals, individuals manipulated and enslaved by a small psychotic elite. If we were more like a hive civilisation we could have made wooden, clockwork spacecraft in Da Vinci's time or before.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:38 PM
I read about this a few months ago. Disturbing to say the least. I'm not going to say it was aliens or not. Personally I can think of some pretty gruesome ways to kill a person. I'm sure I'm not the only one. If it was aliens I'm still not going to condemn all "aliens" simply because of the actions of one or a few of them. What if they saw the actions of the Nazi's and assumed that's how all humans are?

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:42 PM
reply to post by Moonman1111

Or maybe there are many more than just one lifeform visiting

Perhaps one of them - considered to be hostile for the reasons stated in this post, do not give a notion of respect or care to the living and which to me looks like the biological study of earth related life. They might be so advanced that to them and what they are doing, we are no more than lab rats and mice to study or even cut up as they please.

And then I am sure there must be those out there that look after us, follow our history and our actions. They might even thwart an attack or battle other said beings and their craft to prevent such an action from taking place.

We don't know anything yet - and to perceive all outside life as a threat is both ignorant and possibly damaging to our future.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:44 PM
Maybe it was a sacrifice done for a greater good... who knows?

Humans do terrible things for a greater good... look at the atom bombs!

and if thats the case... At least the aliens just killed one...

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:44 PM

Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by Moonman1111

Great post...S&F.

You hopefully have give some balance to the giddy UFO'ers who can't wait for highly advanced ET's to come and lead us to enlightenment and a wonderful New World Order. Bunk!

I have for a long time offered an example for consideration to those who feel ET's just love us so and want to enlighten us. If I am walking down the street and see a piss-ant or two cross my path, what do I do? Do I get down on all fours, carfully pick up the little disgusting creature and explain to him how the internal combustion motor works, with hopes they can better their future transportation needs? Ans: NO. More likely than not I crush the insect under my shoe and walk off with no grief whatsoever. Nuff Said?

[edit on 5-1-2010 by romanmel]

Wow did you really come up with that example all by yourself?

You never? Go on, you had help didn't you? That's just so original i don't know how the human mind came up with that?

And anyway if you were a scientist searching for and investigating life forms you probably wouldn't just crush it. That's just redneck in you.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:47 PM
what, aliens are here realy show me the evidence im exited oh no wait you dont have any

would you believe me if i said....... no wait you believe aliens are here, what can i say

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:53 PM
Yeah definitely creepy. I just watched "Fields of Fear" by Paul Kimball -- it's freely available on youtube, etc. It's about cattle mutilations.

There were some by our house along with the triangle craft sighting -- which I had a close encounter with. I've researched this and from what I can it's military.

The CIA torture people -- it's what the do -- military black ops is based on death and torture.

It's documented that the CIA and military have spread alien invasion propaganda as disinformation.

Read "Project Beta" by Greg Bishop

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:55 PM

Your understanding is noted.
Aliens wish to thank you for your support.
A group of Alien reps will stop by for the willing donation of your rectal opening shortly.

Oh.. wow, you are so right.. aside from us not even positively knowing aliens exist, you are so brilliant as to know their agenda as well! Well done.

One unproven case is obvious proof aliens are evil beings we should shoot on sight, right? Thank goodness we are such a rational race, I'm quite surprised they have not made voluntary contact with us sooner.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 06:10 PM
reply to post by Moonman1111

No reason to think that it was an extra-terrestrial mutilation, but no reason to say that it wasn't one. The butchery that went into this was almost as if somebody or something didn't know anything about human bodies and was essentially disecting certain areas and removing certain body parts to examine them. If it was a human or group of humans who did this, they went above and beyond what they could do to a person. For one if this guy was tortured, then just the act of cutting his hand off would have been enough for him to spill the beans. And buy the time they even got to doing the other stuff he would have went catatonic from the torture and wouldn't be able to tell them anything anyway useful or not. This damage seems to be done at one time in a very short time, a body or a persons body would have bleed to death or died while going into trauma from the damage being done. It would be a different story if they did something surgically then sutered him up and let him heal and went back at it again, no way.

Also we don't know what alien (if it was an alien) species did this. For years everybody always think one alien species we could be getting visited by dozens of species and this hapless man happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Psychonaughty
reply to post by Moonman1111

Most abductions are done by human governments, especially the North American governments. These abductions usually revolve around the ever-so famous "Greys".

Extraterrestrial abductions are never physical but instead either negative psychic attacks to take you off of your path and put you down, or they are of different groups who bring hope and push you every further on your journey.


[edit on 5-1-2010 by Psychonaughty]

They are not done by our government, trust me. They are physical as radiation sickness, and physical implants have been recovered from victims. Some abductions are more metaphysical and involve 'spiritual warfare'. Watch this video

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 06:13 PM

Originally posted by hoghead cheese
reply to post by Moonman1111

No reason to think that it was an extra-terrestrial mutilation, but no reason to say that it wasn't one. The butchery that went into this was almost as if somebody or something didn't know anything about human bodies and was essentially disecting certain areas and removing certain body parts to examine them.

I would say that would depend upon the manner, in which it was mutilated. I've heard of many cows having rectum removed with laser percition and no loss of blood etc. This pretty much rules out humans, so an extraterrestial explanation would be a fair one. Especially when humans have reported seeing ufos in connection to the mutilations.

[edit on 5-1-2010 by UfosExiZt]

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 06:22 PM

Originally posted by observe50
I have to chuckle.

Most here on ATS are still at,......." are UFO's and Aliens real" and your already accusing Alien's of this crime. We that experience with other life Beings are often asked (mocked many times rudely)........ where is our proof and proof is never good enough, so I ask you where is your without a doubt proof??

Sorry, there are a lot of sick people in this world.

Even with knowing there are good Beings and bad Beings.... if a bad Being did do this lets say, why would you even make a statemake like, still think Aliens are here to help mankind evolve. To me what you wrote makes it sound as if "ALL, Aliens are evil," when in fact they are trying to help mankind evolve a little swifter, they say we are evolving to slowly.

No wonder the Beings consider the Human race a stupid Species.

Sorry, but mankind does not need these entities to help us 'evolve'. If you are an abductee, I think you have Stockholm syndrome. We are the creations of God, not some experiment or project for these insect faced silicon freaks who can't even reproduce on their own. I see so many people concerned about RFID chips and 'the mark of the beast on the right hand' that most don't even know that these aliens are already desecrating our God given bodies with their technology.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 06:25 PM

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
The picture evidences were a rather disturbing sight to behold. Whoever did this is certainly inhuman.

However, even more disturbing is the view that it was done by 'aliens'. No doubt abduction were true as testified by credible witness under intense interrogation as well as under hypnotism, there are no reports of them having their organs removed. Infact some even reported of better health than before.

Why it is disturbing is the quickness to attribute the murder to 'aliens'.

Are we fed with propaganda from Corporations once again, to be manipulated by fear of the aliens, in order to seek their protection and thus absolve them of their crimes against humanity, through their secrecy, diabolical schemes to protect such secrecy by ANY means while lining their own pockets, stumbling from one economic and military disaster after another through their incompetence and greed, at the expense of mankind?

Really? 'better health'? From what I have read these abductions ruin peoples mental health aswell as physical. There is a case of one man who was ill, it was discovered he had a chip in him that was giving off electromagnetic frequencies and his health improved once it was removed.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 06:26 PM
to compare humans to aliens, as ants to humans, is just another common misconception. those who are so much advanced (if any) have non, not even slightest interest in this part of galaxy. but wast majority (if not all) are no more advanced, than lets say, you (with your ipods, computers, nuclear warheads) and some native guy in a jungle with sticks in stones in his hands.. as far as I know, it didn't take too long for native americans or africans to learn to use gunpowder and alcohol. and now all us, black, white, yellow or red coloured monkeys (or pigs, witch ever you prefer as your grandgrandgrandfather) are spending time by drinking same beer and watching the same p*rn..

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