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posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 02:51 AM
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This 1994 abduction case involves the most disturbing death of a single human being ever seen.

The human was subject to a brutal mutilation. Yet the reality is that what happened to him is far more disturbing than brutality. This was systematic mutilation.

Whoever they were. Had a level of stunning precision. They were specific about what body parts and internal organs they wanted. They removed the left eye, the left ear, the lips, the tongue, and the jaw bone.

In the upper torso, two "drainage holes" were perfectly cut into the chest.

And the entire rectum track had been cored out leaving a large gaping hole, similar to how an apple core remover will slice out the center leaving the outside fully intact.

Further perplexing is the fact that there was no blood. It is clear that this systematic mutilation was executed with speed, precision, and powered by an advanced intelligence.

And that is what makes this case so disturbing.

If we are to assume that this abduction was carried out by an alien intelligence, then it is time to also revise our data regarding the conceivable specific intentions, moral perspectives and general agenda that some of our extraterrestrial visitors may have.


In 1998, four years after the body was found, Brazilian researcher Zapata Carcia and Dr. Rubens Goes revealed to the public the first time the information about the case.

The body was found on a in the Guarapiranga reservoir, located in the southern area of the city of São Paulo, Brazil.

Zapata & Dr. Rubens also had a series of photographs leaked to them from an insider within the Brazilian police. Upon inquiring with the police about the case, surprisingly the head of primary investigation offered his files on the case.

Police are responsible for investigating crimes… yet this murder would prove to go beyond even the most sickest criminal minds could ever possibly conceive. The report was rather simple in that, there were no signs of struggle. No typical violence occurred here. No ropes or weapons were involved.


The autopsy report would reveal more about what happened than what the police could produce. The autopsy report states: "We observed the removal of the right and left orbital areas, emptying of the mouth cavity, pharynx, oropharynx, neck, right and left armpit area, abdomen, pelvic cavity, right and left groin area."

With Zapata's & Dr. Rubens determined research the report, in addition to the photographs, were made public. You can download a copy of the actual autopsy report here. A few items have been blacked out to protect the identification of the victim.

From the Autopsy Report:
"The axillary regions on both sides showed soft spots where organs had been removed. Incisions were made on the face, internal thorax, abdomen, legs, arms, and chest. Shoulders and arms have perforations of 1 to 1.5 inches in diameter where tissue and muscles were extracted. The edges of the perforations were uniform and so was their size. The chest had shrunk due to the removal of internal organs."


The autopsy report continues, "We observed the removal of the right and left orbital areas, emptying of the mouth cavity, pharynx, oropharynx, neck, right and left armpit area, abdomen, pelvic cavity, right and left groin area".


Precise "cookie cutter" holes are discovered in strategical positions throughout the body used for extracting internal organs. This level of precision suggests that the operation was executed with speed, the application of heat or lasers, all occurring as the subject was still alive.

"INTERNAL EXAMINATION: ...after opening the cranial cavity using Griessinger technique we found: 17) unimpaired skullcap; 18) cerebral edema".

In a case like this, the presence of cerebral edema without direct traumatic origin is a strong characteristic of an agonizing death. In confirmation, the autopsy CONCLUSION explicitly states as causa mortis (cause of the death):

"...acute haemorhage in multiple traumatisms. There is a component of causa mortis by vagus stimulation" (implying cardio-respiratory arrest caused by extreme pain). "The victim shows injuries with vital reaction characteristics, i.e., there is the component "torture". The suggested modus operandi is: incisions in soft parts and natural orifices using sucking devices".


In addition to the shocking photographs, the fact that the official autopsy report blatantly states that the victim was subject to incisions & use of "sucking devices" elevates the case to the levels beyond most disturbing monstrosity to ever occur to a human being.

And disturbing in more ways than one. A) the extraction of body parts & use of sucking devices B) the beings responsible are likely not from this planet.


Pictures of the victim can be seen on the link.
www.alienvideo.net...




posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 03:44 AM
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If it was Aliens...Why would they leave the body for us to find?
This is a really strange case though.
Those pictures were most disturbing.
The worst part about it all, the person was alive while this was all happening to him. ::shudders::



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 03:51 AM
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Ok, I'm going to star and flag this thread because I do believe that it is a case ( I won't call it an abduction case because there is no concrete evidence for that, only circumstatial) that should be known about and I alluded to it myself in a different thread recently.

I can't access the link from the pc I am on at the moment but if it shows the photographs I think it does then I strongly advise you to place a warning in your post that the pictures are graphic and possibly disturbing.

The post mortem evidence report also indicates that the victim was alive when the injuries were received.

The injuries are remarkably similar, if not identical, to a number of animal mutilation cases. There is as yet no direct link between this and animal mutilation cases nor with "aliens" therefore the title of this thread is not relevant and can I suggest it may perhaps be best if it is changed to reflect the content of your post.

What this is though is disturbing, there are also occasional references to other supposedly similar human mutilation cases although I do not believe any credible information has ever reached the public domain. Likewise with references to allegations of human parts seen within crashed discs.

Within the reports of abduction and even contact phenomena there does not seem to be any allusions to this kind of activity so I am not sure what conclusions can be made whatever anybody's belief bias. It seems either to be the work of a madman, some form of unknown natural phenomenon / predation or .....cue speculation that it is linked to animal mutilations and cue speculation as to who or what is behind that.


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posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 03:52 AM
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There is no proof at all it was an abduction by an alien, not even the usual blurry video or shocked witness report. The article just says it might have been one based on the accuracy of the mutilations.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 03:54 AM
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To say this was cruel is not as descriptive as it should be.

They don't care or have what we think of as feelings.

It is a very serious situation that all should be made aware of.

Thanks OP for bringing this to our attention.

Mob



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:00 AM
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They discuss if humans or aliens did it at the bottom of the link.


Could Humans Do this?

If you are skeptical about the assumption that this mutilation was the work of extraterrestrials, then we have to ask - who (or what) else could have done this?

Firstly, would agencies within the government abduct us? Given what we know about the intelligence apparatus over the US Government : yes. The better question is, do these agencies have the technology to do so, and do they have the technology to extract body matter in such a systematic & effective way.

Does the military industrial complex, with their multi trillion dollar black budget, have the capability to carry out a technological mutilation?

And if so, why? What the hell do they need living internal organs for? Another confusing question is why wouldn't they properly dispose the evidence. What possible reason would they have for engaging into a complex mutilation extraction process and then put the savaged carcus back in public view?

Parallels to Cattle Mutilations


You may have heard the term "cattle mutilation". Cattle mutilation cases are much more common than that of the human variety. Yet this Guarapiranga case and the hundreds of cattle mutilation cases reported in the United States bear a striking similarity.




The above scene is from the scene of a reported cattle mutilation. I guess you could say that it's a little less scary given the fact that this is a cow. Yet the similarities in the precision to the cut and hollowed out organs yield an erie resemblance to what happened to the man in Guarapiranga. Unfortunately, this isn't the only sickening cattle mutilation ever reported. There are literally hundreds of cases just like this - all with a consistent methodology to removing internal organs & body material using advanced technological processes that seem to defy the capabilities of even the most modern medical procedures.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by chunder
Ok, I'm going to star and flag this thread because I do believe that it is a case ( I won't call it an abduction case because there is no concrete evidence for that, only circumstatial) that should be known about and I alluded to it myself in a different thread recently.

I can't access the link from the pc I am on at the moment but if it shows the photographs I think it does then I strongly advise you to place a warning in your post that the pictures are graphic and possibly disturbing.

The post mortem evidence report also indicates that the victim was alive when the injuries were received.

The injuries are remarkably similar, if not identical, to a number of animal mutilation cases. There is as yet no direct link between this and animal mutilation cases nor with "aliens" therefore the title of this thread is not relevant and can I suggest it may perhaps be best if it is changed to reflect the content of your post.

What this is though is disturbing, there are also occasional references to other supposedly similar human mutilation cases although I do not believe any credible information has ever reached the public domain. Likewise with references to allegations of human parts seen within crashed discs.

Within the reports of abduction and even contact phenomena there does not seem to be any allusions to this kind of activity so I am not sure what conclusions can be made whatever anybody's belief bias. It seems either to be the work of a madman, some form of unknown natural phenomenon / predation or .....cue speculation that it is linked to animal mutilations and cue speculation as to who or what is behind that.



Well, I am sure there are human Satanists out there who do this sort of evil behavior, but not like this if its even possible with the average Satanists tools whatever those might be. Also the aspect of cow mutiliations seems to involve paranormal activity according to some witness accounts who report strange sounds and lights around their ranches before finding the cows. Also, do you have any links relating to other human mutiliation cases?



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:07 AM
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Yes human mutilations, while recorded ones are real small in number they are the elephant in the room that for a long time was ignored... at least its more widely known about and at least acknowledged the last decade.

Oh and CommonGood... why leave behind animal mutilation carcasses? Woormwoodhour to brush this one off and ignore its similarities to animal and cattle mutilations is kinda stupid.

Thing is, the guy died, he died in an unimaginable way... he didnt do it to himself, and the way he was 'dissected' doesnt make much sense from a human point of view, I mean vacuuming the organs out?...

Doesnt leave that many other options really... sure it might be rare, but I wouldnt trust anything from another world, knowing about this case, no matter what they said or how they looked. Which is sort of what the OP's title was about.

Mutilation has always been counter to the 'benevolent' space brother mindset of Ufology over the decades, and alot of people interested in the subject just dismiss it out of hand because of its rather jarring possibilities... either way who or what does this is/wasnt 'human' in the sense we consider human, weather it was man or alien... I wouldnt even class them as sub-human.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
If it was Aliens...Why would they leave the body for us to find?
This is a really strange case though.
Those pictures were most disturbing.
The worst part about it all, the person was alive while this was all happening to him. ::shudders::


If they didn't care about this mans life and feelings, I don't think they would care what people would think about their actions, prob just viewed the mans corpse as garbage and decided to toss it back down once done.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:18 AM
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What if the guy was just frozen



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:19 AM
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There is no proof at all it was an abduction by an alien, not even the usual blurry video or shocked witness report. The article just says it might have been one based on the accuracy of the mutilations

There is also no proof that cattle mutes are done by aliens either but someone is doing them.
If we use our heads we can deduce that the reason why the body, (that looks so much like cattle mute) was dumped this way, was because the
vic was immediatly mutalated upon abduction.
After the perps had what they wanted the empty shell was " let go " shall we say. So he wasn't taken to a place to have this done, or there would be a facility to discard the body completely. It was done on the run.
Who ever done this, getting caught is an impossiibilty for them.
It isn't even thought about.
Scooped up, mutalated and dumped. I would say in as little as 15 minutes.

This is a great post also this is the kind of stuff the truly wicked would be
capable of. Human or Alien or you know.

I gonna tal ju sonthin righ now. I never trusta thos cocharoach.
I jus loook a them. I say noway. They gotta head it loooks lika bug.


That was my literary Tony Montana.


I mean seriously when I was a like four or five years old my Mom and Dad had to convience me there were no such thing as monsters.

I guess they were dead wrong any way you look at it.
Monsterous.


[edit on 5-1-2010 by randyvs]



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by randyvs
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There is no proof at all it was an abduction by an alien, not even the usual blurry video or shocked witness report. The article just says it might have been one based on the accuracy of the mutilations

There is also no proof that cattle mutes are done by aliens.


I can't see it being done by humans, plus it fits the pattern of behavior set by the aliens, such as abducting people against their will, performing experiments on them, putting implants in them, taking sperm and egg cells, and God knows what else. These entities are lawless and are not to be idolized or viewed in a romantic enlightening manner.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:32 AM
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Thanks for posting this interesting case, Moonman1111

I have read through this case a number of times during the past few years.

I would like to offer an "opposing" point of view to your thread, in that whilst this case was extremely cruel as is any murder, I don't believe this case would be difficult to replicate.

Based on my clinical background & my extensive background pertaining to medical devices:

I believe the injuries could have been inflicted by reasonably inexpensive, second hand medical equipment used by a semi-skilled operator.

Here is an example of a surgical laser available on one of many, many sites selling second hand medical equipment (see below). I know it is possible to obtain much cheaper units than the one I have shown, below.

I also note that lasers are extremely robust & are often used as portable devices that are moved around with great ease, in cars, planes, etc...




Extract from "Lasers For Surgery"

Nd:YAG Lasers...

Trimedyne 1100 Nd YAG Manufact. 1998. 100 watt system in brand new condition. Excellent laser system for outpatient surgery center. Approved for BPH and other urology procedures as well as other surgical procedures. Cost new $90K. Selling Price $14,500.



www.lasersforsurgery.com...



The same applies to endoscopic & suction equipment.

The "death by extreme pain" explanation is used to heighten the melodrama of this death.

Cerebral odema is noted as the proof of this.

I am not aware of references to "extreme pain" being the cause of cerebral edema.




Extract from:

www.medical-look.com...

There are many different factors that could cause Cerebral Edema. The most imminent cause is head trauma due to injuries, concussions, and even the Shaken Baby Syndrome. Other times, Cerebral Edema may also be brought bout by infectious disorders such as Mumps, Malaria, Typhus, Kawasaki Disease, and Reyes Syndrome among others. Cerebral Edema may also be caused by Hypertension and Eclampsia.

Basically, there are four distinctive types of Cerebral Edema. There’s Vasogenic Cerebral Edema, Cytotoxic Cerebral Edema, Osmotic Cerebral Edema, and Interstitial Cerebral Edema. Such types are separated by the conditions that caused the disease and the treatments required for it.

Vasogenic Cerebral Edema is mostly caused by the breakdown of the blood-brain barrier. This frequently happens in the occurrence of head traumas, tumors, ischemia, and hypertension. In Vasogenic Cerebral Edema, proteins and fluids invade the extracellular space, causing the swelling in the brain in the process.

Cytotoxic Cerebral Edema, meanwhile, does not involve the breakdown of the blood-brain barrier. In fact, in this condition, the BBB is intact. However, the abnormalities in the sodium and potassium pumps in the membrane causes sodium and water retention. Reyes Syndrome, hypothermia, cardiac arrest, and early stroke among others mostly cause this particular type.

Osmotic Cerebral Edema pertains to an abnormal pressure that creeps into the brain, allowing for water to flow. This commonly occurs in cases of hyponatremia and hemodialysis.

Lastly, Interstitial Cerebral Edema is the swelling of the brain caused by the rupture of the CSF-brain barrier. This is very similar to the Vasogenic type but it mostly occurs as an effect of hydrocephalus. The other difference between Interstitial and Vasogenic Cerebral Edema is that, the fluid that invades the extracellular space in the case of the latter contains protein.



An associated police report asserted that some level of ritualistic satanic activity was occurring locally.

I would be interested to see an English language version of the autopsy, if you have time to search for one.

I will see if I can find one, but I won't have time to search until tomorrow.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not.


[edit on 5-1-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:42 AM
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Very good background research you have done. But then again, I just don't see humans doing this but it cannot be ruled out. In any case it is food for thought.

oh yeah wanted to add, I did try to look for an English version of the autopsy, but didn't come across anything, I guess you could translate it from word to word using Google translator.

[edit on 5-1-2010 by Moonman1111]



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:55 AM
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Moonman-it certainly is a very interesting (and truly bizarre) murder case.

Armap has done some great translation/investigative work on the autopsy report at this thread and I think the general consensus was it wasn't aliens.

Cheers.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:14 AM
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Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by Moonman1111
 


Moonman-it certainly is a very interesting (and truly bizarre) murder case.

Armap has done some great translation/investigative work on the autopsy report at this thread and I think the general consensus was it wasn't aliens.

Cheers.


G'day karl 12

I would be very interested to read Armap's translation of the autopsy.

However I can't find it in that thread to which you linked (I just scanned through it twice!)

Can you by any chance direct me to a page number?

Many thanks if you can


Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:27 AM
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Hey bud, its page four although discussion about the rope; the lack of burns and the inconsistencies found in the initial report are ongoing throughout the thread (the case is certainly a very strange one though).
Cheers.

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not
 


Hey bud, its page four although discussion about the rope; the lack of burns and the inconsistencies found in the initial story is ongoing throughout the thread (the case is certainly a very strange one though).
Cheers.


Thanks karl 12


I see it now...(not sure how I missed it)

I'll have a good read of that tomorrow (it's getting late here in Sydney).

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



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