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posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 01:23 AM
I'm at the age where i should "shi* or get off the pot"... ive made my decision and that is final ... I am entering the service to our country (U.S.A) My entire family was at one point or another in the service. My major dilemma is in what branch.

a brief history;

My grandfather faught in the korean war with the airforce as a munitions mos.
My mother was also in the airforce as an electrical engineer (during vietnam.)

My father was in the Navy as a navigator for the uss pual (during the middle east crisis in the 80's) .
His father was in fire control in the navy until his discharge where he worked for nasa until the 70's

I dont mean to insult our courageous colleagues in the USMC and the Army... but im not suited to be a "bullet stopper" (a term used by my dads dad).

So it comes down to two branches the Air Force and the Navy... and I'm putting it up to you folks at ATS on what my decision is. Truthfully both branches have their pros and cons and ive went over them for quite some time. I am obviously at a stale mate, so a simple vote for my survival! (a terrible play at making this thread relavent to the board.)

Ive talked to both recruiters, I've taken a practice version of the asvab and I'm just my word away from signing either paper.

So my preferred MoS is MP / MA (Military Police) Munitions, Fire Control and Structural engineering (both services have a different name for this mos)

So vote away and please keep any in-fighting to a minimum and dont try an dissuade me my mind is made up. If any vets have their opinions to throw in they are most certainly welcome. As well civies are as well absolutely welcome to throw their 2 cents in ... but please keep it to a vote between Air Force and Navy

Thanks guys!

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[edit on 5-1-2010 by conspiracyrus]

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 01:42 AM
Some prefer naval contemplation,
Others like to leap up and fly.
Bullet stoppers have grave destination,
I just try to get by.

MPs stop revelry at end of day,
Navigators plot paths for planes.
I leave others to find their own way,
Each to suffer setbacks and pains.

Do your own thing kid....

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 01:44 AM
reply to post by urwatu8

good poem and thanks I really would like some outside advice as both sides of my family think that their branch was better... I see qualities in both and i see detractions from both ... I am absolutely stalemated... but man ... nice writing =)

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posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 01:46 AM
Marines. It's the hardest and most mind-expanding of the armed forces. Not kidding.

Only pursue the most difficult goals with the greatest rewards. That is the reason for living.

— Doc Velocity

[edit on 1/5/2010 by Doc Velocity]

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 01:51 AM
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posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 01:56 AM
Well answer these questions.

Are you going to make it a career?

If not, what do you want to do when you get out...if you do?

Do you get sea sick?

Are you scared of heights?

Do you like to shoot guns?

Are you ready to enter a life of servitude, and do what you are told, no matter if you agree with it or not?

Are you ready to get shot at?

Are you ready to die for something?

Do you want a family?

Do you want an education?

Do you want to be in another country enforcing someone else's views on how it should be run?

Are you ready to kill someone you have/have not met for the reason you are told to do so?

These are questions you really need to ask yourself. When I see your answers I can tell you what I think.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 01:57 AM
I vote Airforce.

Weigh pros and cons, this isn't going to be decided in a day. You should decide what you want and see which meets most if not all of your wants or expectations of the services and base your decision on that. But since you're askin' dude... Airforce.

Also, mad respect to your father and his father...

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 02:01 AM
I suggest you go to college with an emphasis on addition



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posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 02:01 AM
Go NAVY, the future is the NAVY.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 02:09 AM
reply to post by Conclusion

It may turn to a career im not sure

I would like (quote like) for this to run into a Law Enforcement or engineering career ...When I get out.

I do not get motion or sea sickness.

I love to shoot guns.

I happen to believe whatever my choice may be even if not being in service taht i will always have to be told what to do and when to do it if i like it or not.

I am perfectly capable of coping with getting shot (I live inner city its a reality everyday)... not so much shooting at other people but I can deal

No one is ready to die and I will work my hardest at making sure I and others do not.

I am already working on my family. I see this as a shot at making things work long term my wife is already behind me.

I love learning ... I started with japanese and I expanded to other languages learning is a key for me.

I cant tell you that I'm ready to take a life becuase someone told me so ... I can only tell you that I will ensure me and my families future, including ensuring that I have a paycheck at the end of the day.

I really have made my mind on this issue and I would like to thank you for your questions but they have all been answered.

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posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 02:13 AM
I would also like to thank everyone who has posted so far... I value your opinions (even from the USMC crowd it was an option at one point but no longer) And i am keeping score ... thanks!

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 02:23 AM
reply to post by conspiracyrus

Then it comes down to this.

If you like shooting guns and want to be in law enforcement become military police. They will provide you with all the training to walk right into a law enforcement job if you get out. Or go into engineering if that is what you like best. You get the point.

The Air Force offers great training in avionics and munitions specialists.

As for a family you might want to check out this link.

A military life is not an easy rode. History has proven this. It seems like one of the only options our young men and women have nowadays to get a job. Best of luck to you and keep your head down.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 03:10 AM
I had a nice career path in the Air Force. Started as enlisted. Went to the Academy, flew jets. It was fun. Took two overseas tours. All in all, fun and rewarding. Keep up with your education. Good luck.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 04:35 AM
reply to post by conspiracyrus

a vote between Air Force and Navy

If it were me personally, I would probably choose the airforce. Of the various services, they generally present themselves as having the most class. In the airforce you'd probably also be less likely to be stationed on a naval vessel for months at a time, and conseqently less time being cold and wet.

The only real advantage I see in choosing the navy over the airforce is that naval uniforms are sexier.

preferred MoS is MP / MA (Military Police)
Munitions, Fire Control and Structural engineering

Hmm. Ok. I probably wouldn't choose any of those myself, but I don't think anything in that list heavily weights the decision towards or away from AF or Navy.

I do offer one suggestion: whichever branch you choose, take advantage of the opportunity to learn to fly. Whether or not you ever return to civilian life, I've never known anyone who regretted having a few hundred hours of flight time under their belt.

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:13 AM
You can be an MP in either of the branches you are contemplating. And the above poster was correct about walking on to any police force in the nation after being an MP. I'm just gonna throw in my two cents about the quality of life in the service. Either go to the Chairforce, or stay posted up in Ft. Livingroom. You don't want any other branch unless you are trying to be a bullet catcher.

BTW yes, you DO catch bullets in the Navy...just ask my dad. Shot 3 different times...course he was a frogman but that's immaterial.

My buddies are still in the Chairforce and they love it. In fact when one got stationed in Afghanistan, his flight had to go to an Army base to stay. Someone asked during briefing "well what does that mean" (obviously asking about inter service discipline and etiquette and what not) and the CO pops off "No golf course".

There you go man. Hope you get sent to Ramstein. Beautiful place that Bavaria is...

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 11:10 AM
I would enroll in a four-year state school, join ROTC and let the gov't pay for your degree. Then come out as a commissioned officer and serve proudly!

Thanks for deciding to serve our country. It's a rare sacrifice these days.

Just remember... the only difference between a straight sailor and a gay sailor is six beers.

(LOL kidding. Navy and AF are both excellent choices.)

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 11:52 AM
During a 20 year career in the Navy,I never stepped foot on a ship.

Never ever.

That said,if you were to join the Air Force in 4 years you will be a E-4.

If you join the Navy in 4 years you will be a E-5.

In 8 years if you re-enlist in the Navy you would be a E-6 going up for E-7.

In the USAF you would be an E-5.

So my question to you is this.

Do you want a career that you will be promoted
on schedule with your peers or do you want to wear nice looking uniforms and never get promoted?

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 06:52 PM
Hey thanks for the comments and suggestions! I'd just like to add that i just want military experience its not necessarily about a career in or outside, though that is always helpful!

Thanks again everyone who posted their votes and suggestions

(airforce is winning =p)

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 07:25 PM
Umm Air Force ! Why ? Come one its flying , what more is there to say about it
. But what do I know I dont' even live in the US

posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 09:57 PM
I joined the Navy during their "See the World" advertizing campaign, the world is 75% water in varying from light blue to dark blue and if you are unlucky enough to end up in the Bering the most demoralizing blue gray. I am not so keen on the AF either. My Dad was stuck in George AFB in the 70's. Not sure if you've ever spent time in the High desert or Minot, ND I couldn't image the boredom of guarding 12,000 ft of concrete from the Canadians in -20 weather. Either one has pro and cons. I think its a matter of luck between the duty stations you get, the friends you make and the superior officers you get. Try to pick a MOS/Rate that will allow you to get a job if you don't like being in the service. Good luck. BTW, I think you will have more oppurtunity to shoot rifles in the AF.

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