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Body scanners violate UK child porn laws

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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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Body scanners violate UK child porn laws


rawstory.com

It has been said that terrorism is a zero-sum game. But try telling that to the manufacturers of three dimensional body scanners, the use of which at airports worldwide is set to soar after the failed bombing of a Christmas day flight into Detroit.

In the United Kingdom, however, a proposed "gradual" introduction of devices which take nude photos of their subjects has run afoul of child pornography law, according to British newspaper The Guardian.

"Ministers now face having to exempt under 18s from the scans or face the delays of introducing new legislation to ensure airport security
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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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Now who would have ever thought about that ?

Pretty scary to think that these " scanners " take " nude photos of their subjects " .

Good God what has the war on terror become ? We need child porn laws now because of what our madness is driving us to ?

How will these people subjected to this " scanner " feel knowing that there about to have there picture taken in the nude ?

Seems that the " naked scanners " arrival seems timed perfectly with Mr. Bomb in the John's little stunt over the holidays .

I will stop now as I could go on




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(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:47 PM
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Just watch, there will be an sudden influx of pedophiles applying for security positions at Heathrow... All vying for the coveted body-scanning monitor. LOL

— Doc Velocity



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:47 PM
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Perhaps if push came to shove, we could use such laws to block the implementing of body scanners? Just a thought.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:50 PM
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I think I'll have surgical steel beads implanted under my skin, spelling out the words "F—CK YOU PERVERT!" emblazoned across my buttocks, just for the body-scanners.

— Doc Velocity



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:54 PM
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Perhaps we just need to vote out just about everyone currently in office and demand better from the people who serve us ? . .......

As if that will ever happen .

Too bad , it would have been a great idea



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:56 PM
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Those body scanner guys will just spend all their free time looking at the images and touching themselves. This is not all bad, as their effectiveness will be diminished. They will all be worn out at work and rubber legged.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:58 PM
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It has been said that terrorism is a zero-sum game. But try telling that to the manufacturers of three dimensional body scanners, the use of which at airports worldwide is set to soar after the failed bombing of a Christmas day flight into Detroit.


Does anyone know the names of the manufacturing companies?



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:08 PM
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I'm not surprised it's come to this, I mean the police/security/goverment have LOVED doing strip searches for all this time, which I think are inhumane and is surely against our rights as human, I compare it to a man raping someone to check if they are a virgin or not. It's just a stupid and evil tactic.

Oh well, I think we need to open our eyes, we surely aren't free in this country. And it's a guilty until proven innocent country now. Which is a VERY bad thing for our future, because it seperates us from them, when in fact we are supposed to work together with the goverment to make this a better country.

People are going to get fed up soon. People are already getting more and more annoyed by police everyday for their suspicious eyes etc. What's next?

Peace.


[edit on 4-1-2010 by _Phoenix_]



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:08 PM
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Given the latest stunt by Mr. Bomb in the Johnny's thats a fair question . Also funny at the timing of the release of the story , as if they were waiting for such an event to make the population think of such a device necessary for there safety .

Just think a week ago we were all wondering just how security would handle this new potential problem of looking down our pants and here we are one week later with the solution , boy are they not looking out for poor little us or what ?



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:16 PM
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seems they just can't make up their minds.
try to walk through to your flight in the nude just for laughs.

you know they'll make you put on clothes just so they can see you in the nude under them.

now they are just screwing with our heads



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:19 PM
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Good point , seeing how the law makers work for us I can't remember the last time I was asked as to the freedoms I was prepared to give up , can you remember the last time you were asked ?

Seems we are putting to much faith into people not deserving of that faith to make crucial decisions on our behalf .

Perhaps we should stop calling people such as the president , leader of the free world to public servant to the leaders of the free world .

Seems things have gotten all twisted up and too many people have been conditioned to except the current situations .

Edit to add , I was asking in agreement not sarcastically .

[edit on 4-1-2010 by Max_TO]



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:26 PM
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Well, I did some cursory research, and it's pretty much everything you would expect it to be. Here are a few quotes from an Associated Press article entitled "Group slams Chertoff on scanner promotion":


WASHINGTON - Since the attempted bombing of a US airliner on Christmas Day, former Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff has given dozens of media interviews touting the need for the federal government to buy more full-body scanners for airports.

What he has made little mention of is that the Chertoff Group, his security consulting agency, includes a client that manufactures the machines. Chertoff disclosed the relationship on a CNN program Wednesday, in response to a question.



Chertoff’s advocacy for the technology dates to his time in the Bush administration. In 2005, Homeland Security ordered the government’s first batch of the scanners - five from California-based Rapiscan Systems. Rapiscan is one of only two companies that make full-body scanners in accordance with current contract specifications required by the federal government.



In the summer, TSA purchased 150 more machines from Rapiscan with $25 million in American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funds. Rapiscan was the only company that qualified for the contract because it had developed technology that performs the screening using a less-graphic body imaging system, which is also less controversial. (Since then, another company, L-3 Communications, has qualified for future contracts, but no new contracts have been awarded.)


I really wonder if L-3 Communications will get future contracts, if this all pans out. Check out this from their wikipedia page:


L-3 (named for Frank Lanza, Robert LaPenta, and Lehman Brothers) was formed in 1997 from the purchase of ten former business units of Lockheed Corporation when Lockheed merged in 1996 with Martin Marietta[2]; the ten units were those which the new Lockheed Martin was uninterested in owning.


and this:


1997

* L-3 acquires PARAMAX Systems Corporation from Lockheed Martin.



2002

* L-3 acquired portions of Raytheon Intelligence and Information Systems located in Greenville, TX, Waco, TX, and Lexington, KY. These companies were originally part of E-Systems.



*2005

* L-3 acquired Titan Corp., after a failed buyout attempt by Lockheed Martin.


Lockheed Martin and Raytheon, both contract with the DHS (among other defense agencies), which would lead us back to Chertoff. Titan Corporation, while also contracting with the DHS, had a few employees involved in Abu Ghraib.

Another L-3 acquisition is MPRI. From Sourcewatch:


* MPRI is a joint venture partner along with Kellogg Brown and Root, Wackenhut and AGS in the civilian police training company Civilian Police International, LLC which is under a State Department contract for $1.6 billion to work with the Civilian Police and Rule of Law office in coordination with the United Nations training emerging police forces around the world. [4]






posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:29 PM
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There's a simple solution to this problem:

Train nurses to hand the scanner and any terrorist problems, then people won't mind so much if it's an RN or LVN behind the scanner.

Make sure there is no memory hold on the images.

Have a citizen oversight committee to insure security.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:34 PM
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Star for you nice researching


second line



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 12:19 AM
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As others have stated, it bears repeating that the timing of the "underpants bomber" and the introduction of these scanners is hugely suspicious.

On the theory of the scanners alone, it is an un-winnable battle. The more means you invent to catch criminals/terrorists, the more means they will produce to avoid detection and stay ahead of the curve. I'll warrant a person who is willing to blow themselves up would not be past placing explosives up their arse - just as drug smugglers regularly do. So what's next? Rectal Scanners? What would that look like? And what happens if they find a terrorist with a bomb up his Kaiber? Do they send in one of these to get it out...?


The mind boggles...



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 01:48 AM
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Child porn laws aren't the only laws these intrusive scanners, if pressed into service, will be violating. With these pseudo x-ray machines, they will now be able to assemble a digital visual mega-database of virtually everyone who travels via airline. They're saying some crap that the data will not be recorded, but do you really buy that song and dance?

You think the Government is going to let all these intrusive digital files of the population pass through them without tapping it, so to speak? Besides, you're dealing with virtual data here, it could be recovered even if it is shown to be deleted. How difficult would it be to write a program which would automatically decompress the deletions, if that program does not already exist. Or, how difficult would it be to have a program automatically copy and capture the imagery data in real time.

This is quite an undertaking by the bureaucratically bloated and technologically challenged TSA which should encounter its share of bumps down the road. The overwhelming potential for privacy abuse and (some seriously gross) negligence cannot be ignored. Assuming, of course, the TSA or other Third Party is competent enough to handle the processing of such an intimidating amount of data.

One would be surprised if the Supreme Court would not be forced in the near future to opine on the Constitutionality of the TSA's proposed mandatory use of these machines. Do they at least give you the option of being frisked like a real criminal if you do not want to go through the death ray machine? My last request would be that the search be done by a member of the opposite sex who doesn't look like Butch.

Not so ironically, the general public will be paying for the wonderful 'privilege' of having their Constitutionally guaranteed privacy violated. These machines run in the neighborhood of $130-200Gs a pop and the TSA have stated they will need several hundred to get the skin flicks rolling. And all this because of some flunkie who allegedly had explosives in his underwear and couldn't even blow off his own pecker. And just when you thought the human stupidity meter had bottomed out:

www.personalliberty.com...
www.conspiracyplanet.com...


[edit on 5-1-2010 by SphinxMontreal]



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 01:55 AM
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For heavens sake have you seen theses images? It's a very blurry outline, You couldn't possibly describe these as 'nude pics'. Plus those monitoring the scanners can't see or identify those passing though.
I would be more concerned if there was any health risk to frequent flyers.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by Someone336

It has been said that terrorism is a zero-sum game. But try telling that to the manufacturers of three dimensional body scanners, the use of which at airports worldwide is set to soar after the failed bombing of a Christmas day flight into Detroit.


Does anyone know the names of the manufacturing companies?


i know the german government openly said that they would not introduce the scanners because they are unethical....only for it to come out that they had financed the development of the technology used in these devices...

we live in a 1984 world were our 'leaders' do one thing whilst saying they are doing the opposite.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 02:11 AM
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My pregnant wife recently declined going through one of these, to the dismay of the security personnel who then had to search her manually.

Gee what a concept; a safer method that actually employs people...



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