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Himmler, head of the Nazi terror police, would become an architect of the Holocaust, which consumed 6 million Jews. It was self-evident that the Jews must be disarmed before the extermination could begin.
Finding out which Jews had firearms was not too difficult. The liberal Weimar Republic passed a Firearm Law in 1928 requiring extensive police records on gun owners. Hitler signed a further gun control law in early 1938
Other European countries also had laws requiring police records to be kept on persons who possessed firearms. When the Nazis took over Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1939, it was a simple matter to identify gun owners. Many of them disappeared in the middle of the night along with political opponents.
Meanwhile Hitler unleashed killing squads called the Einsatzgruppen in Eastern Europe and Russia. As Raul Hilberg observes, "The killers were well armed . The victims were unarmed." The Einsatzgruppen executed 2 million people between fall 1939 and summer 1942. Their tasks included arrest of the politically unreliable, confiscation of weapons and extermination.
Out of all the acts of armed citizen resisters in the war, the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising of 1943 is difficult to surpass in its heroism. Beginning with just a few handguns, armed Jews put a temporary stop to the deportations to extermination camps, frightened the Nazis out of the ghetto, stood off assaults for days on end, and escaped to the forests to continue the struggle. What if there had been two, three, many Warsaw Ghetto Uprisings?
Individual criminals wreak their carnage on individuals or small numbers of people. As this century has shown, terrorist governments have the capacity to commit genocide against millions of people, provided that the people are unarmed. Schemes to confiscate firearms kept by peaceable citizens have historically been associated with some of the world's most insidious tyrannies. Given this reality, it is not surprising that law-abiding gun owners oppose being objects of registration.
The message is simple: Disarmed people are neither free nor safe - they become the criminals' prey and the tyrants' playthings. When the civilians are defenseless and their government goes bad, however, thousands and millions of innocents die.
Professor R.J. Rummel, author of the monumental book Death by Government, said: "Concentrated political power is the most dangerous thing on earth." For power to concentrate and become dangerous, the citizens must be disarmed.
What disarms the citizens? The idea of "gun control." It's the idea that only the government has the right to possess firearms, and that citizens have no unalienable right to use force to defend against aggression.
I would like to know whether after 65 years, with the Nazi regime long dead,
Originally posted by DeathShield
Oh christ here come the "holocaust never happened crowd." You know i am pretty sure the bombing of hiroshima never happened.
i can't believe some people believe this stuff . . .
In his book "Russia at War 1941 to 1945", Alexander Werth reported that while visiting Gdansk/Danzig in 1945 shortly after its liberation by the Red Army, he saw an experimental factory outside the city for making soap from human corpses. According to Werth it had been run by "a German professor called Spanner" and "was a nightmarish sight, with its vats full of human heads and torsoes pickled in some liquid, and its pails full of a flakey substance - human soap".
Definitions of regime on the Web
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Not only did the US NOT cause the holocaust,
There is no NEED to "remind" us about man's inhumanity in this instance, because our country was not responsible, and did not contribute to it.
So do you think there should be a government group that can decide where you can and can not build a museum
Originally posted by JPhish
reply to post by DeathShield
Last i checked, nothing i said in my post was a lie.
Last I checked . . .
Holocaust: The genocide of European Jews and others by the Nazis during World War II:
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.
Didn't happen.
The Nazis were not deliberately killing off the Jews.
Originally posted by JPhish
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.
Didn't happen.
The Nazis were not deliberately killing off the Jews. The Jews were the slave workforce powering Hitler’s war machine. Use your logic. Slaves are no use to you if they are dead.
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
www.forward.com...
Local Holocaust Museums Grow Amid Worries About Future
By Gal Beckerman
Published December 23, 2009, issue of January 01, 2010.
The numbers speak for themselves: There are now 16 Holocaust museums in the United States, from Albuquerque, N.M., to Houston, to Richmond, Va. And these are just the biggest of nearly 150 Holocaust centers all over the country.
The proliferation of museums detailing the story of what happened to European Jewry during World War II has been largely a phenomenon of the 1990s, part of the general increase in Holocaust awareness in the culture at large. But it has by no means slowed: The most recent museum, in Skokie, Ill., opened last spring, while construction continues on a second Los Angeles museum, to open in the summer of 2010.
With a substantial, federally-backed national museum in Washington, critics are increasingly wondering about the need for so many local museums. Even more important, the question of whether these institutions will be able to financially sustain themselves into the future — given the heavy costs of maintaining collections, and the dying off of the Holocaust survivors who founded them — is of great concern to museum directors.
The purpose of this thread is NOT to discuss whether the holocaust existed. I believe that it did, while others may disagree.
I would like to know whether after 65 years, with the Nazi regime long dead, and almost all of the survivors deceased, whether there are other causes that are more pressing. For instance, Darfur and other current genocidal wars rage on, while other equally disastrous massacres have occurred in recent times. None, however, seem to draw the attention that the Holocaust generated.
Is it time to move on? Why, of all the horrors in human history, does THIS one, generate a need for 16 museums, and counting?
Please try to keep this discussion civil. I'm not looking to start a religious war here.
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by Sean48
The thing about history , even tragic history is that if you don't remember it , your doomed to repeat it
Oh, I certainly agree. However, why are the 16 museums for the holocaust, and none for other events that were just as disastrous? [/quote
Since everyone can't afford a trip to Isreal, I have a no problem with multiple locations. There built, as far as I know, with private funds, except in Isrreal. More importently this is one event we must never forget. We are often not aware of how many times genocide has happend in the past. To many to name off hand, but can you remember one? Tragicly, there are to many abomanations to have a museum to all of them.
(please forgive spelling, spell checker STILL on strike)
Originally posted by SerialLurker
They need museums about the horrors of nuclear warfare.
The Nazis would separate Jews, Slavs, Romani, Poles, people with disabilities, homosexuals, and other 'undesirables' into two lines at the camps:
But what about "the others"? There were five million of them. Who were they? Whose children, whose mothers and fathers were they? How could five million human beings have been killed and forgotten?
After studying carefully-documented books, and interviewing non-Jewish survivors, I found more information about the five million forgotten than I had ever imagined -- information that most people are not aware of. Polish citizens suffered enormously during the Holocaust -- Jews and non-Jews.
Eleven million precious lives were lost during the Holocaust of World War II. Six million of these were Polish citizens. Half of these Polish citizens were non-Jews. More...
While there is no argument that Hitler abhorred the Jews and caused almost six million to be ruthlessly killed, often non-Jewish victims are tragically forgotten from Holocaust remembrances. Eleven million precious human lives were lost during the Holocaust. Five million of these were non-Jewish. Three million were Polish Christians and Catholics. It would be very sad to forget even one precious life extinguished so ruthlessly. It would be a tragedy to forget five million.