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Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by network dude
Secrecy is bad when it is is used to accomplish an illegitimate end.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
Conspiracy theorists believe groups like the Masons are using secrecy as a tool to carry out nefarious plots.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
If this is true (I know many including myself doubt or deny the existence of such plots), then secrecy used by masons is bad.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by network dude
Part of this phenomenon is the fault of the Masons. By joining a secret society, they should know that speculation as to what exactly happens behind closed doors will be subject to speculation.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
It is also logically impossible to prove a negative. If I accuse the Masons in my town of sacrificing children to the devil, the masons will have a hard time conclusively disproving this.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
If they open up their meetings for the world to see that there are no child sacrifices, someone could always say that we are not seeing the "real" meeting where the child sacrifices occur. If they use outside evidence like police records to show that there are no missing children in the area, someone can always says the Masons get children from outside the area.
Originally posted by JPhish
If everyone were informed of everything, most man made problems would cease to exist.
Originally posted by JPhish
Sorry, but i disagree, i don't believe there should be any secrets.
Most of the woes of this world are the result of ignorance.
If everyone were informed of everything, most man made problems would cease to exist.
[edit on 1/4/2010 by JPhish]
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by JPhish
If everyone were informed of everything, most man made problems would cease to exist.
Much as I'd love to believe that the simple fact is that those who live to hate and divide would find some other excuse to hate and divide. Information without understanding is so much background noise.
Originally posted by JPhish
"If everyone were informed of everything, most man made problems would cease to exist. "
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by JPhish
I did read your post. You said there should be no secrets and I challenged you to divulge secrets.
Incorrect assumptions.
For obvious reasons, you are not going to divulge those secrets because you have good reasons not to divulge.
Sorry but honesty is ALWAYS the best policy. There are no exceptions.
Similarly, people may have good reasons not to divulge secrets. Secrecy does not necessarily hinder, as you say, but can advance. People are happier when certain intimate details of their lives are kept secret. Secrecy can also advance the discovery of knowledge.
Many companies would not spend large amounts of money developing useful technologies and uncovering knowledge, in the hopes of commercially exploiting the technologies.
There wouldn't be a need for money if everyone were honest and informed. Sorry your logic is flawed.
Without secrecy some secrecy, companies could not successfully exploit these technologies. For example, without secrecy, an interloper can develop a product cheaply by taking advantage of preliminary research performed by someone else.