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Originally posted by moocowman
Can you give good reason to teach a child to love with all their heart an invisible man and call him father, when this being is alleged to do what most normal loving parents could not even consider "kill their own child"?
Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by moocowman
That woman in the video,was not an example of a christian woman!
She was cussing,out of control and totally wrong.
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Originally posted by pieman
Originally posted by moocowman
Can you give good reason to teach a child to love with all their heart an invisible man and call him father, when this being is alleged to do what most normal loving parents could not even consider "kill their own child"?
logically?
the particular god in question is all powerful, he can either bring the person back to life or take them into a heavenly kingdom for eternal life, for such a being, death is less than nothing, no more serious a punishment than the initial sting on the bottom a child receives when it is smacked.
[edit on 5/1/10 by pieman]
Originally posted by moocowman
Do I take because an individual uses violence to make another person comply that makes their gods' violence ok ?
Hm,
violence is a matter of perspective in this sense, killing is only violent where it is irreversible. a god killing a person in this respect is like a surgeon using anesthetic, it's a reversible process for the persons own good.
Despite the advances we have made in our time since carl sagans death and work we still do not know much about our universe. We have observed less than one percent and at any moment those observations can be rendered invalid. That is the nature of science. Therefore to make the assumption that this is harmful because it teaches kids about something that does not exist is not a scientific nor philosophically valid argument.
Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by sirnex
I'm sorry,but this video is not on topic,this thread is about children being
taught religion,abuse or not.Please stay on topic.
If one is being moral based on promise of reward, then are they truly moral beings?
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Respectfully, look at our youth and think it over
If basic morality were a natural part of humanity, how could it survive the onslaught of programming and social engineering run amok that is our society today?
BTW Even though that woman clearly lost it, who the heck hasn't? Freaking out about a teenager is the usual for most parents I've spoken to.
The kid didn't really seemed as fazed as one would think, and didn't seem to care about the gifts, either.
give me some evidence or logical argument that the actual religious belief is destructive to the child, physically or mentally.
it's fairly near impossible to come up with a selfless act, i don't really see any point in talking about morality without reward.
there's also the inconvenient fact that most religions have a system of atonement, forgiveness of immorality. i don't see any reason to believe that people behave in a moral way for the sake of fear.
Originally posted by pieman
reply to post by sirnex
are you suggesting that that is the only way in which religion is taught to children?