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Is teaching religion child abuse?

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posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 07:30 AM
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All I can say to that is there is purpose why each person has different experiences. We are all a unique self...sifting and weighing in this world of flesh. We all are in need due to our personality, our past, our perspective, of looking at different possibilities or experiencing different things that may awaken us to 'seek within'.

Im sure there have been things that happened to you that made you ask 'is there something more to this' and its your choice to shrug it as nothing or to look within and see what that experience would serve the IAM within you.

As the Spirit awaits many 'selves' to see their 'true self'....many different experiences are brought for that 'each 'self''.

With that, an open mind should always be kept, and if one chooses to only see one possibility to the experience, then that too....is what that 'self' is in need of in that time for they are not ready. Many times each being is given a moment or mark to see if they are ready to look within and find the IAM within them. Its meant to be that many times, we will not see it for what it is.

Just my personal, suggestions
My best
LV




posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
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1.Do you believe in God?
2.Do you believe in Jesus?
3.Do you believe that Jesus died on the cross?
4.Do you believe He died to pay OUR sin debt
to God?
If you can answer yes to any of these questions,
what does God and Jesus mean to you?Forget
what you have been taught by the catholic church.
Discover the Lord for yourself,pray to him and let
His spirit be your guide.


There's a problem with these questions.
ANYONE will HAVE to answer yes to 2 and 3. Of coarse I believe in Jesus! He was once a living breathing person, just like me and you. And yes I believe he died in the cross, that's simply how he died. But do I believe that he was really the son of God or that he died for our sins? No.
These questions need to be tampered with a bit...



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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Is Teaching Atheism Child Abuse ? ...You Decide .,



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by nicolee123nd

Originally posted by mamabeth
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1.Do you believe in God? I have faith.
2.Do you believe in Jesus? I believe in the immaculate conception of the Son of God Lord Jesus Christ and his teaching.
3.Do you believe that Jesus died on the cross? I believe Jesus blood is forgiveness for our sins.
4.Do you believe He died to pay OUR sin debt
to God? Yes.
If you can answer yes to any of these questions,
what does God and Jesus mean to you?Forget
what you have been taught by the catholic church.
Discover the Lord for yourself,pray to him and let
His spirit be your guide.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 03:04 AM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by mamabeth
 


Is Teaching Atheism Child Abuse ? ...You Decide .,



Atheism is not a teaching, it's just saying no to all the things you should say yes to. It allows murder and stealing and cheatery and heartbreaking. Thus chosen death.

Choose life by living life with your hopes on life. The path of sin leads to death. Any day your choice may be granted.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by etherical waterwave

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
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Is Teaching Atheism Child Abuse ? ...You Decide .,



Atheism is not a teaching, it's just saying no to all the things you should say yes to. It allows murder and stealing and cheatery and heartbreaking. Thus chosen death.

Choose life by living life with your hopes on life. The path of sin leads to death. Any day your choice may be granted.


I absolutely don't believe that these things are true. Basic game theory alone would encourage cooperation and respect for one another.

If this is true why are many serial killers in the US identifying as christian? There is no correlation in my mind between religious beief and morals.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 03:12 AM
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As I said, teaching religion to children is not child abuse.

However, children should be taught all religions.

They are not - I would not call that child abuse, but brainwashing, which is almost as bad. And every child in this world is brainwashed.

Shame on us.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 06:20 AM
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I am a christian and I believe that Jesus/Yeshua
died on the cross to pay my sin debt to God.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 06:33 AM
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Of coarse I believe in Jesus! He was once a living breathing person, just like me and you.


You do realize of course that there is no evidence of this ?

There again I suppose that would depend on which jesus you are talking about.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by etherical waterwave
Atheism is not a teaching, it's just saying no to all the things you should say yes to. It allows murder and stealing and cheatery and heartbreaking. Thus chosen death.

Really? So it's impossible to be moral without the fear of doom in the afterlife hanging over your head? This is, quite possibly, one of the most ignorant and bigoted statements I've seen on this subject. Maybe you should educate yourself before making posts like this. After all, most atheists were religious or at least involved in religion at some point in their lives, so they have seen both sides of the issue. How many people who condemn atheists have even made an attempt to understand their point of view before damning them to hell or calling them immoral animals? Not many, I'd wager.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 06:40 AM
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My evidence would never be accepted by you!
I believe in the Bible,the Torah and my own
feelings.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by nicolee123nd
 


I am a christian and I believe that Jesus/Yeshua
died on the cross to pay my sin debt to God.



Kind of an insane belief .

A No one died the omnipresent creator of all that there is cannot die.

B The crucifiction (yes I'm aware of the spelling) was his own idea you had no say in whether it took place or not so it had nothing to do with you,.


C Perhaps you should rephrase your statement to -

I am a christian and I believe that Jesus/Yeshua
died on the cross to pay my sin debt to Jesus/Yeshua.

D There is no solid evidence that the jesus myth ever actually occurred.

In conclusion -

It is totally appalling and repugnant that little children are taught to believe that the psychotic god that appears in the bible is an actual real entity monitoring their every thought.

Child abuse ? Most defiantly yes it is.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 07:16 AM
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However, children should be taught all religions.


Why on earth would one choose to teach children about all the different flavored invisible men that live in the sky ?



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 07:19 AM
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Atheism is not a teaching, it's just saying no to all the things you should say yes to. It allows murder and stealing and cheatery and heartbreaking. Thus chosen death.


What a load of complete and utter garbage . (apart from cheatery whatever the hell that is )

Atheism is purely not believing in the existence of your god pure and simple atheism doe not in anyway allow murder or stealing, when will you people learn to think or at the very least grow up,



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
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My evidence would never be accepted by you!
I believe in the Bible,the Torah and my own
feelings.


So this is good enough justification to teach it to little children as fact ?

If your god asked you to kill me would you do it ?



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 07:37 AM
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You have asked me this question before.I don't think
that God would ask me to kill you,smack you,maybe!

Please don't ask this question again,it doesn't have anything
to do with the thread topic.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 07:47 AM
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You have asked me this question before.I don't think that God would ask me to kill you,smack you,maybe!


I didn't ask you whether you thought your god would ask you to kill me, I asked you would you do it if he did, you cannot know whether he would or would not.

So- - - I your god asked you to kill (or smack if that makes it easier) me would you do it ?





Please don't ask this question again,it doesn't have anything to do with the thread topic.


It has "everything" to do with this topic, little children are taught that there is an invisible man in the sky that they must both love and fear .Sometimes the invisible demands that those who believes he is real should maim or kill other people !!!

This is most definitely child abuse !!

If your husband monitors every single move you make and keeps you in fear of his absolute authority this is known as domestic violence ! This behavior is taught to children but is not to be considered abusive ???



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 07:59 AM
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The "fear" you are referring to is a misinterpretation
of scripture.The meaning of the word has changed
over the past few centuries.
Fear of the Lord is to be in awe or respectful to the Lord.
A little knee bending wouldn't hurt either.



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by mamabeth
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The "fear" you are referring to is a misinterpretation
of scripture.The meaning of the word has changed
over the past few centuries.
Fear of the Lord is to be in awe or respectful to the Lord.
A little knee bending wouldn't hurt either.


M, the punishment for not fearing the lord was death there is no misrepresentation, yahwhejesus was to be feared in every sense of the word period.

By the way "Knee bending" is also a misrepresentation of grovelling .

So, If god told you to kill me would you do it ?

Why are you afraid to answer this question in an honest yes no manner ?
edit on 20-10-2010 by The Djin because: no reason in particular



posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 08:54 AM
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I can't answer this question because the Lord
hasn't asked me to perform the task of killing
you.
I don't want to violate any T&C rules either.



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