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Dinosaurs and humans (giants) coexist in ancient times?

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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 08:09 AM
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There was an ancient, vanished, civilization that has fought, hunted, raised, mounted and breeded dinosaurs? Who was? They have left traces of their existence on this planet?
It is possible that exist very ancient stones, particularly hard, with designs and carvings that they would not have to exist? Who would have carved, some thousands (millions?) years ago, and practically in perfect way, scenes of hunting with men and dinosaurs together? But also carvings of geographic maps, constellations, opticians instruments, transplants of organs and flying objects?
Some new scientific discoveries seem astonishing and confirm this thesis: men and dinosaurs coexisted themselves.



This finds has profound ramifications for the Creation/Evolution debate. Evolutionary scholars have admitted that if dinosaurs and humans lived together in the past, then this completely destroys the theory of evolution and we must rescribe our history on this planet.

But also from others place in the world there are misterious relics, pictograms, geogliphs that they do not find an explanation.

First Step: The Khmer temple.
Deep in the jungles of Cambodia there are ornate temples and palaces from the Khmer civilization, The Angkor Wat Empire. One such temple, Ta Prohm, abounds with stone statues and reliefs. Almost every square inch of the gray sandstone is covered with ornate, detailed carvings. These depict familiar animals like monkeys, deer, water buffalo, parrots, and lizards. However, one column that seems the “evolutionary of life on Earth column” contains an intricate carving of a Stegosaur creature. But how could artisans decorating an 800 year old Buddhist temple know what a dinosaur looked like if Western science only began assembling dinosaurs skeletons in the past two centuries?

(Pictures of Don Patton)






And:
Who has carved in the cliff of a mountain this enormous figure of beyond 100 meters of height in the middle of the Atacama desert in Chile, the most dry, barren and ancient desert of the planet?

(The Atacama Giant).


ICA Stones and a preistoric lost civilization



The stones themselves are composed of “andesite”, a very, very hard mineral that would make etching quite difficult with primitive tools . They are covered with a natural varnish that is created by bacteria over thousands of years. The etching is made by scraping away this dark varnish to reveal the lighter mineral beneath. According to some reports, examinations of the stones show that the grooves of the etchings also bear traces of additional varnish, however, indicating that they are very old.





Italian Tv program "Voyager" on the Ica Stones and the last scientific analisys




Collections from “El Toro” archeological site


www.creationists.org...

What the Bible Says About Giants
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown." Gen 6:4

2 Samuel 21
In still another battle, which took place at Gath, there was a huge man with six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot--twenty-four in all. He also was descended from Rapha. When he taunted Israel, Jonathan son of Shimeah, David's brother, killed him.

Numbers 13:33
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Deuteronomy 2:11
Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims.

Deuteronomy 2:20
That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;

Deuteronomy 3:11
For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

Deuteronomy 3:13
And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.

About the Meganthropus
en.wikipedia.org...

Dinosaur and Men footprint
www.omniology.com...

www.omniology.com...

www.omniology.com...




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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 08:23 AM
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Mods: Do you please fix the videos? thanks



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Thanks for sharing, S & F.

I just watched a story on this over the weekend. I think it was on the History Channel. Continued evidence that history is wrong. I bet there is much more to find.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 09:59 AM
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Thanks Julie.


I think that many of these clues shown the truth about the REAL history of the Life on this planet. The Stegosaur in the Khmer temple is really really awesome!



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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It is absolutely amazing the things that are discovered. If this is indeed true, then I guess most history books will need to be thrown out. Kinda gives a new view to "the land of the lost" series.

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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:16 AM
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Im just being curious but does anybody know what dinosaur remains might have looked like a quarter million years ago. Were they all petrified the way they are today or were they at that time still remians of a dead animal? How long does it truley take for something to petrify?

www.icr.org...


Wood can also be petrified in field settings. During one field experiment, researchers dangled a block of wood down inside an alkaline spring in Yellowstone Park to see what effect this hot, silica-rich environment would have. In just one year, substantial petrification had occurred. I recently read an advertisement in a magazine for real "hardwood floors." The company was petrifying wood commercially. The point is, it does not take long ages to petrify wood, it just takes the right conditions.


www.ncsec.org...


Petrification occurs by the replacement, recrystallization or
permineralization of the original plant or animal parts. (Permineralization
just means that mineral material fills the voids in the fossil-to-be rather
than replacing or recrystallizing the original materials). In almost every
case, ground water is the agent that causes petrification and silica and
calcite are the main replacing minerals.

How long it takes for petrification to occur depends on a lot of factors
like pH and temperature, but all things being equal, groundwater saturated
with calcium carbonate(calcite)acts the fastest because calcite is more
soluble than silica or other petrifying minerals. In the parking garage
where I work, which is only 3 years old, 4 inch stalactites have already
formed from rainwater leaching calcium carbonate out of the concrete
floors.

So if we accept the fact that petrification occurs as a continuum (in other
words, a gradual process from partial to complete
replacement/recrystallization/permineralization), and we assume the
replacement material is calcite under ideal chemical conditions,
petrification can certainly occur just a few hundred years or even less.

I hope this answers your question! Please let me know if you would like
any clarification or additional information.

John W. Bebout, Ph.D., Sr. Technical Specialist, Oil and Gas, Fluid Minerals Group, Bureau of Land Management



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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 10:58 AM
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Some interesting ICA Stones.

Triceratops mounted by men (giants)


Men (giants) devoured by dinosaurs


The Hunt


The Pyramid of the Sun


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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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The Inca stones have long ben found to be false.
Fellow was creating them in his house, still does in fact, and sells them to tourists.
If you look at them over a distance of time, they change shape a bit, in concurrent with contemporary changes of how dinosaurs looked.


As far as the Ta Prom Stego is concerned, based on the previous discussions on it, it's been shown the pattern that looks like the plates of the steg are part of the pattern of the image, remove them and it looks dead on like a chameleon from there.

now, why they have a imprint of the dinosaur skin, which is not the skin itself preserved, but a imprint, much similar to dinosaur mummies, no sure.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:39 AM
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humans love to procreate, so where are all the giant human fossils??

not to mention evolution, the rise of mammals etc. this talk is crazy.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:42 AM
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It seems that Climatologists, Geologists, Biologists and Zoologists have all been bull shotting the public for the past 1-200 hundred years.

It is clear they have deceived mankind and they need to be punished!

bring out the crowd and pitch forks!
olo



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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Are you telling me that whatever killed the dinosaurs DID not killed Humans ??

Fishy ..



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 01:28 PM
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To defy the rigidity of the dogmas of the modern era can be dangerous, above all in many academic circles, and assume that the origin of the man in ages more ancient one than that orthodox one, can put us in ridicule, especially if it advances the idea that the man has lived to the time of the dinosaurs. If some brave one dares to expose such “heresies”, these are considered "absurdities" and it is made to pass from stupid.



posted on Feb, 2 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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Just now watching a show on the Atacama Desert - all the life (old and knew) being found in one of the most inhospitable places on Earth, in the last 23,000,000 to 11,000 years.

Amazing stuff.



posted on Feb, 2 2010 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Imagir


The stones themselves are composed of “andesite”, a very, very hard mineral that would make etching quite difficult with primitive tools .


Just so you know, Andesite is NOT a mineral. It is a 'collection' of minerals....and yes, it is an important distinction.



posted on Feb, 2 2010 @ 02:22 PM
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You are right, en.wikipedia.org...
Andesite is not mineral but Rock.
Dark, Volcanic, and Hard... Rock.



posted on Feb, 2 2010 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by JBA2848
Im just being curious but does anybody know what dinosaur remains might have looked like a quarter million years ago. Were they all petrified the way they are today or were they at that time still remians of a dead animal?


First let's get something straight. Fossilization almost always differs from petrification (a rare type of fossilization) and if you hung a dinosaur in a mineral well (per the example in your quote,) you'd get a rotten dinosaur.

That being said, given the fact that the last dinosaur died around 60 million years ago, it's most likely that a quarter million years ago (59 and 3/4 million years after the last one died,) dinosaur fossils looked exactly the way they look today.



How long does it truley take for something to petrify?


If you mean fossilize, it depends on the type of fossil.

Petrification is specifically organic material being converted into stone when it is invaded (and replaced) by silica.

Fossilization covers a whole bunch of other things - including an animal rotting away in the ground and the resulting void later being filled with some other substance which eventually hardens into stone - almost exactly like making a cast.

In the case of this latter example, what part would you be referring to when you say petrification? I mean, the animal is long gone so it's remains are never actually fossilized at all. So, do you mean how long does it take for sand to become sandstone? What if the void gets filled with lava? Then the "fossil" is done in a couple of days.

See, it's not cut and dried.

BTW, that ain't no therapod print in the pic in the OP. It's obviously a fake.

Harte



posted on Feb, 2 2010 @ 02:55 PM
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Oh look, another dinosaur meets human footprint rock, that has been removed from its source, looks manmade, and doesn't match the footprint patterns of either a person or a dinosaur.

And the ica stones. When are people going to get tired of the "zomg it's a hard rock, you can't touch it with anything!" stuff? The guy wraps these rocks up in goat turds and coffee, bakes 'em, and then uses dentist tools to scrape off the resulting patina to give us flintstones pebbles.

And surprise, your major source is the bible.

Meh



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