Originally posted by halfoldman
In the accepted Old Testament Saul encounters the dead via the "Witch of Endor". Some verses are more specific: Job 4:15, "Then a spirit passed my
face; and the hair of my flesh stood up".
How, why or where does anyone get the message in the Bible that all spirits are "demons"?
Somebody please explain why significant amounts of people believe in aliens and spirits, but only as "demons"?
[edit on 3-1-2010 by halfoldman]
Hope you don't mind if I address this question? I really do not know what Christian call everything not Jesus looking a "demeon." (Greek: Inner
Self) They do. for one who has had the curse of seeing dead people all of my life, this alone drove me far away from anything Christian. Now follow me
here, if a good Christian "sees" Jesus, complete with fair hair and beard, and nicely tanned skin, not that is REAL. Any, and I do mean ANY other
thing, spirit,or whatever, is automatically a demon from Hell, or one of the Devil's minions come to lie you.
I will tell you all a little story here, a true story, believe it or not.
As a small child, about 12-14, we had a large woods to play in, some odd 40 acres. Nice big trees. I had encountered some men out there in the woods,
I though they lived in there. We fought war al the time, they had guns, and ragged clothing, and I too had a gun made of wood, a branch that looked
like a rifle. We would fight all day sometimes, fighting "Yankees." I thought nothing of this, it was like real to me.
One day my mother, herself a Fundamentalist Christian from the word go, called me and I failed to answer, I came in over two hours late for supper,
basically a crime to Mom. She began to question me on what I had been doing, so I just told her. told her the whole story, about the men, the war we
were fighting, all of it. Mom became convinced that I was possessed my demons. A call to the preacher brought him and one other man, and two women to
our house for three days in July. they tried their best, I have to give them that much, to pray out the demons in me, truth be known, there were none
After I left the church, many years went by and those men were, and are still with me. In time of danger, I see them. If something big is happening,
they are there. Others have seen them, all of my family, and more than a few friends. I believe they actually saved my life on two occasions, once in
a car wreck, and once when a car fell from the lift to the floor in a flash, hands came out of nowhere to pull me to safety. These men served with me
in the Civil War, there is not one doubt in my mind of this.
I often see the dead, at hospitals, nursing homes, which I avoid like the plague, and places where the old life and work. They are not demons, they
are dead people.
Now on to the rest of my story. I became a Wiccan a long time ago. when i cast my first magick circle, and began to chant, I called out to the Goddess
to join me, and a beautiful Feminine figure appeared in my circle, all in white she was, and this was no demon either. she practically bled love out
to me, and I never felt so loved before. Would a demon exert love?
I have also see ET beings too, several times. Christians tell me there are demons too.
IMHO, everything Spirit is anything
but a demon. I think, operative word, think that people who are really evil, really angry, really hateful,
upon death they may stay here in this plane, and this is a demon. Satan, Devil, are made up by whoever made up the bible stories of them. If you want
a People to FEAR, you have to have an Enemy for them to fear. There is nothing to fear from the dead, or from ET, or from any loving Spirit. Just show
it love, and if it stays, it is good, if it runs away, it is not good. It's that simple, folks.