Are they seriously calling the body scanners "rapiscans?"

Like... rape-scanners?

I know it's rapid-scan, but come on, this is too much to just be a coincidence.

Anyone that doesn't consider being forced to show your naked body to strangers rape is a complete idiot.

Tie this in with how the "christmas plane bomber" plot was obviously a set up/ploy by our governments, and the way they're constantly rubbing their evil doings in our faces, and we've got ourselves a pretty cut-and-dry case of new world order BS.


I'm urging anyone that reads this to post something about it on their social networking profiles/bulletins/whatever.

I'll copy/paste the bulletin I put out for all my friends on myspace to see...

Subject: Would you let strangers take fully nude pictures of you?

Body: That'd almost be like rape, right? If it was something you didn't really want to do...

So what if it was mandatory if you wanted to fly anywhere through major airports?

And what if the company raping yo.. taking the pictures of you naked named their cameras "rapiscans?"

Sounds pretty ridiculous, but it's exactly what's happening. Watch this video to see a few demonstrations of what I'm talking about...
www.yourfilehost.com...

The things can see through all of your clothes, layer by layer, down to the pores in your skin, and they're trying to make them mandatory in all airports.

Pretty awesome right?

They blur the images so that the resolution is only good enough to detect foreign objects, and the operator is never co-located with the scanner, so they don't know who they are scanning. I would be more concerned about another source of public exposure to radiation. We get enough from cell phones, microwave ovens, and the doctor's office. Now we have to zap everyone who flies? I bet it's just a HAARP conspiracy to experimentally charge humans with RF radiation to study the human auroral effect.

This may be off topic, but don't care... comparing body scans to Rape is loathsome... it doesn't come close to the level of Rape and the ramifications of such a thing. Why doesn't it surprise me that a male wouldn't know this? or so cavalierly make such a comparison?

Originally posted by LadySkadi
This may be off topic, but don't care... comparing body scans to Rape is loathsome... it doesn't come close to the level of Rape and the ramifications of such a thing. Why doesn't it surprise me that a male wouldn't know this? or so cavalierly make such a comparison?

So if you couldn't leave your city without having full-body naked images taken, you wouldn't feel the least bit violated?

You really think that because I'm a guy I can't "understand" how bad rape is?
Obviously having naked pictures taken of you isn't the same as being held down and sodomized, and I'm sorry you can't understand my way of making analogies. Why doesn't it surprise me that a female would be overreacting to such an obvious concept? By the way, that's a bit of sarcasm.

Originally posted by John_Brown
They blur the images so that the resolution is only good enough to detect foreign objects, and the operator is never co-located with the scanner, so they don't know who they are scanning. I would be more concerned about another source of public exposure to radiation. We get enough from cell phones, microwave ovens, and the doctor's office. Now we have to zap everyone who flies? I bet it's just a HAARP conspiracy to experimentally charge humans with RF radiation to study the human auroral effect.

So... You didn't watch any of the video to see the clearly defined naked guy and pieces thereof, and are basically pulling the little green men, tinfoil hats, nutter conspiracy theorist card?

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Trauma is trauma, and people are people, so why try to characterize rape as a special trauma that only women can understand, or imply that men are insensitive, or that a scanner's invasion of privacy cannot constitute a trauma on par with "rape"? Some people may feel that this does constitute rape.

Why don't you give us an honest expression of how you have come to feel the way you do about this issue instead of dropping a cavalier comment full of anger and resentment?

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So if you couldn't leave your city without having full-body naked images taken, you wouldn't feel the least bit violated?

I don't know. From the images I've seen, even from the link you provide, those pictures are computer generated and don't appear to be realistic or of a caliber that would make me feel "violated" though I'd probably be a bit embarrassed. Again though, embarrassing things happen everyday and I have yet to see an image from one of these scanners that makes me feel unduly violated.

You really think that because I'm a guy I can't "understand" how bad rape is?
Obviously having naked pictures taken of you isn't the same as being held down and sodomized, and I'm sorry you can't understand my way of making analogies. Why doesn't it surprise me that a female would be overreacting to such an obvious concept? By the way, that's a bit of sarcasm.

I understood your analogy. I'm making the point that the analogy is overused by the majority of males and that overuse serves to diminish the truth of Rape. That's all. I don't see it as over-reacting (yes, I got the sarcasm too). I'm under no illusion that my point will stop the analogy, but had to be made.

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Just because the technology was presented one way in a video doesn't mean that is the only way it can be implemented or used by our authorities. There have been a number of solutions to the privacy issue thrown about, like having medical doctors do the scanning, blurring, same-sex screeners, etc.. The folks who developed this technology are aware of the privacy issue, and the market drives their solutions.

It is still a huge invasion of privacy, regardless of the safeguards, and I wonder where people are on the spectrum of experience in terms of "rape" or simply embarrassing.

I was only joking about that HAARP thing. Maybe I should start a thread.

Has anyone been through one of these Rapiscans? Please Report!

reply to post by John_Brown

Why don't you give us an honest expression of how you have come to feel the way you do about this issue instead of dropping a cavalier comment full of anger and resentment?

Wasn't anger or resentment being expressed. An observation. A point made about a flawed analogy (that was IMO)... See above for an answer to the rest of your statement.

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Are planned airport scanners just a scam?

New technology that Gordon Brown relies on for his response to the Christmas Day bomb attack has been tested – and found wanting

By Jane Merrick

Sunday, 3 January 2010
www.independent.co.uk...

The explosive device smuggled in the clothing of the Detroit bomb suspect would not have been detected by body-scanners set to be introduced in British airports, an expert on the technology warned last night.

The claim severely undermines Gordon Brown's focus on hi-tech scanners for airline passengers as part of his review into airport security after the attempted attack on Flight 253 on Christmas Day.

The Independent on Sunday has also heard authoritative claims that officials at the Department for Transport (DfT) and the Home Office have already tested the scanners and were not persuaded that they would work comprehensively against terrorist threats to aviation.

they wouldn't have worked anyway

Thanks for the link.

Has anyone been through one of these Rapiscans? Please Report!

Not my experience, but that of a fellow bike rider...

This recent filed attack has brought up the talk of those full body scanners, which reminded me of this... a month or so back i went through the Tulsa airport. They had these full body scanners. In the media they say the places that they were testing them at made them purely optional but that's 100% LIE. there was nothing explaining the equipment or saying it was optional, that it could see your body or anything or the sort. They also then patted everyone down like a cop would even AFTER they full body scanned everyone! Not just me, everyone. Also while waiting for my flight a handful of f16's or some military type fighter planes where buzzing around the airspace... WHAT on earth is so high risk about Tulsa? It's not even a big airport.

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Here's the way I see it:

If these scanners can save lives and keep a terrorist from blowing up a plane, then I'm all for it. Would I let some random person take nude pics of me? Hell no, but I'm sure most of the people operating these scanners aren't really getting that much enjoyment out of it. If said operator got to sit there and scan super models all day, it might be enjoyable to have such a job, but being all kinds of people fly on planes and therefore get scanned... 90 year old woman, 500 pound men, I don't think the scanner operator is getting off from doing this. That's the way I see it. I really don't see what the big deal is. It's not like you have to stand there and take your clothes off and it's not like the scanned image of you is posted on some huge screen for everyone to see. I just don't understand why people get upset over these things. I don't even like looking at myself naked, but I honestly don't have a problem with going through these scanners.

I used to be a flight attendant a couple years ago. There are some real nutjobs that fly on planes. Anything that can be done to insure my safety or the safety of the ones I love, is ok with me.

I really don't see how this can even be compared to rape at all. Rape is a horrible, traumatic experience. Having some person take a look through your clothes, just to make sure you aren't going to go blow somebody up, isn't rape and I really don't see why it would be all that traumatic. They're not just looking at you, they're looking at all kinds of people.

With all this said, I'm not really just aiming this at you OP. I do like you so I don't mean to sound all bitchy, lol. Just stating my opinion is all.

[edit on 1/3/2010 by gemineye]

Originally posted by gemineye
...I'm sure most of the people operating these scanners aren't really getting that much enjoyment out of it. If said operator got to sit there and scan super models all day, it might be enjoyable to have such a job, but being all kinds of people fly on planes and therefore get scanned... 90 year old woman, 500 pound men, I don't think the scanner operator is getting off from doing this.

I don't really get this line of thinking.

If I had to look at giant naked old people all day long, that would make the somewhat attractive ones look even better, and the really attractive people would be bonus points.
Sounds childish, but I'm a guy, and that's how my brain, and most brains I know, work.

People that look at porn constantly don't just stop liking porn, they stop liking certain kinds of porn.

Paying people to subject others to this kind of humiliation can only lead to bad things if you ask me.

[edit on 3-1-2010 by alaskan]

Main Entry: rape Function: noun : unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception

Hmmm, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, and deception...
Sounds a little familiar, almost like the spell every tv show, daytime or latenight, has been casting for the past decade, who also happen to be making jokes of about the subject of this thread...

And because 97% of you have either forgotten or never learned it in the first place...

US Constitution, Bill of Rights, Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[edit on 5-1-2010 by alaskan]

Talk about a Freudian slip. That is quite the epic coincidence.

What are the odds that those two words would match up randomly AND share a bizarre connection of meanings.

The odds are like astronomical actually.

I am completely blown away by the synchronization of it all connecting so well.

Rapiscan! What a perfect and fitting name. Cracks me up.

If there is a God this is a really twisted sense of humor indeed.

Rapiscans....I thought that was the name for the alien anal probes...

I can't believe that such a BIG deal is being made about this...it's just imaging...it's not like these images could be mistaken for Playboy centerfolds...wonder how these same people feel about thermal imaging? Now that will show your "junk" in better detail than this little piece of technology.

Are you serious? Did you watch the video I linked to? Have you looked at anything more than the name of these things before giving up and assuming they're nothing special?

Are you seriously comparing a thermal image to things as clear/clearer than this...


?

Show me one thermal image from the past twenty years that rivals the detail on the guy's cockandballs in the video I linked in the original post....

Now think about how your mom, grandma, wife, daughter, sister, brother, husband, son, or grandpa would feel about having complete strangers take that kind of picture of them and the ones they love.


You're disgusting if you can defend this kind of thing.


Remember when people said it was ridiculous to think that our emails could/would be sold to governments/corporations? Celebrities and children are about to make a lot of sick people a lot of money...

[edit on 5-1-2010 by alaskan]

Originally posted by alaskan


Tie this in with how the "christmas plane bomber" plot was obviously a set up/ploy by our governments, and the way they're constantly rubbing their evil doings in our faces, and we've got ourselves a pretty cut-and-dry case of new world order BS.

Yeah, they sure found an excuse to have these things implemented everywhere rather quickly. Fishy Fishy. Of course I've seen this # for years and now have the ability to see right through all of the bull#.

Originally posted by alaskan
Are you serious? Did you watch the video I linked to? Have you looked at anything more than the name of these things before giving up and assuming they're nothing special?

Are you seriously comparing a thermal image to things as clear/clearer than this...


?

Show me one thermal image from the past twenty years that rivals the detail on the guy's cockandballs in the video I linked in the original post....

Now think about how your mom, grandma, wife, daughter, sister, brother, husband, son, or grandpa would feel about having complete strangers take that kind of picture of them and the ones they love.


You're disgusting if you can defend this kind of thing.


Remember when people said it was ridiculous to think that our emails could/would be sold to governments/corporations? Celebrities and children are about to make a lot of sick people a lot of money...

[edit on 5-1-2010 by alaskan]

Not to mention that they "destroy DNA" Everything has a purpose nowadays.

Someone has already said it, but it MUST be reiterated:
If you think body scans and rape are even REMOTELY similar, you need a bit of help.

Originally posted by captaintyinknotsIf you think body scans and rape are even REMOTELY similar, you need a bit of help.

Really?

All the children, toddlers to 12 year olds, know exactly what's happening when they go through airport security?

Are they really consenting to having naked images taken?

Again, there's a huge difference between physical rape and what I'm talking about, but if you were to set up a haunted house next halloween with these things at your doors without explaining to people that you'd be seeing them naked, you'd end up in prison.

Stop arguing BS semantics, paying people to inspect their 'subjects' nude is exactly what we're supposed to be fighting against.

[edit on 6-1-2010 by alaskan]