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reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 12:26 AM by AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by CHA0S


Star & Flag. Good Thread. However, if we are in group D now. On a planet that has 7 billion humans, in which 95% of them are in struggling below poverty or worse... How can that be considered "easy"living?

AAC


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 01:12 AM by CHA0S
reply to post by someguy420


I like to think that they aren't extinction periods but they are more like spontaneous evolution periods. I heard David Wilcock put it like this... During those periods the earth passes through the photon belt receiving a different type of light energy. I also agree that this higher frequency energy interacts with all types of life. In a sense communicating with it. If the frequencies of the Earth and the Cosmos are what molded life. ("And the word Was god") Then it's safe to assume that if the earth frequencies are changed, that would change the way the earth creates the organisms on it. I also find it fascinating how this photon energy can alter DNA, I truly believe that this is the "shift" we are supposed to go through.
Another poster started to get into this...and I think you could be right...because the 62My cycle is actually a biodiversity cycle...and I feel 2012 will be for the good...it will be the end of one stage...and our transitioning into a new stage of evolution...but I really have no idea...all I know is something extremely significant is very likely to happen around 2012...


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 03:05 AM by OzWeatherman
Originally posted by CHA0S
reply to post by OzWeatherman


Considering that 1 alautun is 63 million years, and the Mayans havent even had a their calender for that period of time.....your thinking is flawed.
That's the whole reason I think 2012 is going to be significant...as I've explained numerous times now...


63 million years ago, the Mayan calender didnt exist. So how can the 63 million year period have elapsed to end in 2012? For one alautun to end in 2012 it must have began 63 million years ago.





Well I've stated a few times now why I think 2012 WILL be a significant year. If you accept that the Mayans couldn't have possibly worked out the length of our galactic cycle at their current level of advancement, you must conclude that some higher force, an advanced alien species perhaps, gave them this information. In this case, we can expect they gave them this info for a purpose and that it is fairly precise. And it probably wasn't just the Mayans that were visited by "sky Gods"...as another poster said:
Mayans, Nostradamus, Hopis, Chinese, Hindus and possibly Egyptians all predicted it.


Fair enough, but you havent presented anything on the short term and mid term calenders and the significant figures and periods that are associated with those. People dont realise that there are more than a couple of calenders at work here, yet because one of them ends everyone thinks a significant event is coming?

I cant wait til that date...and hopefully I can get the first "I told you so" thread out



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reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 03:39 AM by CHA0S
reply to post by OzWeatherman


63 million years ago, the Mayan calender didnt exist. So how can the 63 million year period have elapsed to end in 2012? For one alautun to end in 2012 it must have began 63 million years ago.
That's a good point...I never really thought about that...but wouldn't that mean they didn't start the calender from its beginning? Did they in fact adjust it ahead so that they were in sync with the galactic cycle? And wouldn't that just add more significance to the 2012 date? Why wouldn't they just let the calender run from start instead of essentially right near the end?


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 03:52 AM by serbsta
Firstly, the 'Mayan' Calendar isn't originally Mayan at all. The system of cycle counting was in fact borrowed from the Olmec and Toltec peoples, but it may in fact be much older than either of these aswell. This adds no credence to any theory about doomsday scenarios, in fact it heavily detracts from them. The Meso-American Calendar was a calendar just like the ones used in Western society today.

Dr. Karl can tell you what I mean:

"...when a calendar comes to the end of a cycle, it just rolls over into the next cycle. In our Western society, every year 31 December is followed, not by the End of the World, but by 1 January. So 13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan calendar will be followed by 0.0.0.0.1 – or good-ol' 22 December 2012, with only a few shopping days left to Christmas."

Source

You can I suppose, use a car odometer as a better substitute...

...as each section of the odometer reaches 9 and then clicks over to 0, the next number to it starts a new cycle, so that when all the numbers again reach 0 all the way across the odometer - the last number will change from 1 to 2 and the new cycle starts all over again.

www.greatdreams.com...

Don't get me wrong, the ancient Meso-American cultures were great astronomers and had a surprisingly detailed knowledge of the heavens, but 12/23/2012 is a date which holds no more significance to the Maya/Olmec/Toltec than this last December 31st had for you.


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 03:55 AM by Horza
Sorry ... I am totally confused by this thread.

What information has been posted that shows that 2012 is a significant date???

The 64 million year significance between 1 alautun and the solar systems wobble around the universe is a coincidence at best and most likely has no connection at all considering the time periods being discussed.

It is generally accepted that the solar system is moving away from the galactic plane with 30 million or so years to go before it crosses it again and so will not be passing through the plane in 2012.

Here is a quote from an article the OP posted
And if they’re right, we have time to prepare for the next major event, since the Solar System has just passed the mid-plane of the galaxy. The next peak occurs in ten to twelve million years, assuming the KU theorists are onto something.

Source

So by quickly doing the math:

Assuming by peak they mean when the solar system reaches the apex of its up and down wobble, we passed through the galactic plane aprox 4 to 6 millions years ago ... which, in the galactic terms we are talking in, means we have "just passed" through the plane.

The Hopi, the Hindu and the Mayan's did not mention anything of any substance about 2012 (I can't find anything about the Chinese and Nostradamus is too confusing for me so I won't comment either way on those)

Jon Major Jenkins might have mentioned something of interest to some people but he is neither Hopi, Mayan, Chinese ... he may be Hindu or the reincarnation of Nostradamus, I am not sure ... but he charges money for his info so we can't take anything he says about enlightenment seriously.

Was there anything else in this thread?

If there was I missed it.

Could someone please post a summary ... or did I just do that?


reply posted on 4-1-2010 @ 03:57 AM by Alienmojo
Originally posted by CHA0S
reply to post by Sean48


Well, thank you for that brilliantly insightful statement...but you made no attempt what so ever to provide a valid argument and debunk the points I am making here.

I don't think he needs to... just like the Cosmic Convergence where everyone said we were going to have mass earthquakes and everyone had the math to prove it.... and guess what? Nothing happened.

This will also be a non-event.

It has already been proven that the Mayan's never intended their calander to show an 'end-time event.' It was only the end of one calandar and the beginning of another one. People just love to make up bs to scare people and get famous. I'm not saying you are... you were doing your research. However, I think I will be justified in 2012... otherwise I'll be dead and it won't matter much anyhoo.

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