reply to post by LeoVirgo
The universe today article discusses an interesting issue about alignments. What it really discusses is measurements taken in 2d and in 3d. In a sense
a photo is a measurement in 2d. When you look at the night sky it appears to be flat. Some constellations are composed of stars that are no where near
each other. They only appear to be near each other on the "flat" surface of the night sky.
The first part of the article is about the 3d position of the Earth and where the solar system is relative to the galaxy. The second part of the
article is about the 2d position of the sun against the "flat" surface of the sky.
I'm sure you were aware that when the zodiac sign is Sagittarius, the current sign, you can't see it because the sun is in that constellation. Of
course, we know the sun really isn't in that constellation in 3d, but in 2d the sun is in the constellation.
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reply posted on 2-12-2010 @ 09:22 PM by stereologist
reply to post by St Udio
The corn and squash prophecy is from a shorter cycle calendar. There are no prophecies associated with the long count calendar, which is the calendar used to claim something in 2012.
The corn and squash prophecy is from a shorter cycle calendar. There are no prophecies associated with the long count calendar, which is the calendar used to claim something in 2012.
reply posted on 2-12-2010 @ 09:28 PM by stereologist
reply to post by Gab1159
There is no evidence for a Planet X. Since the Voyager 2 flyby of Neptune it has been abundantly clear that there is no missing mass within 70AU. That's about 2X the distance to Pluto. Whole sky surveys push that constraint back even further and show that there are no Earth or Mars sized masses within 340AU. That's 8X the distance to Pluto.
This does not rule out an object say half a life year away the size of Jupiter orbiting the sun. But such an object would not have an orbit that enters the orbits of the known planets. Yes there can be other planets, but they would be far, far away and never enter the part of the solar system where the known planets exist.
There is no evidence for a Planet X. Since the Voyager 2 flyby of Neptune it has been abundantly clear that there is no missing mass within 70AU. That's about 2X the distance to Pluto. Whole sky surveys push that constraint back even further and show that there are no Earth or Mars sized masses within 340AU. That's 8X the distance to Pluto.
This does not rule out an object say half a life year away the size of Jupiter orbiting the sun. But such an object would not have an orbit that enters the orbits of the known planets. Yes there can be other planets, but they would be far, far away and never enter the part of the solar system where the known planets exist.
reply posted on 2-12-2010 @ 10:30 PM by nite owl
I believe the gov't has started to prepare without you or i. www.youtube.com... You and i were not invited to whatever is supposed
to go wrong. It must be something big. They hav them all over the world. www.youtube.com... and also,
www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 25-12-2010 @ 10:37 AM by leeangqi
64 my +- 1 or 2 my/ 64 cycles destruction recorded in buddhism sutras...as below stated;
The Buddhists have a divine sequence of 64 great world-destructions, each composed of 4 "immensities", much like the four Yugas or "ages" of Hinduism. The first 7 destructions are by water and affect only our domain of the Heaven of the Radiant Gods. The eighth destruction is by fire, cleansing everything from the Heaven of the Completely Lustrous Gods on down. Then the 7 by water repeat to be followed by a 16th (or second 8th) by fire, as above. This cycle repeats 63 times; but the 64th destruction (the 8th 8) is by wind, demolishing even the Heaven of the Richly Rewarded Gods. Then the cycle of 64 starts all over again. This is most certainly meant by that passage from the Hindu Mahabharata in which it is stated: "The time for the purification of the worlds has now arrived. The period dreadful for the Universe, both moving and fixed, has come."
One of these great cycles is about to end, on or before the year 2012 CE. In all likelihood, we are approaching the simultaneous ending of the current Hindu "Kali Yuga" of 432,000 years and the Mayan "Atautun" of 64,000,000. There was also a "Heracleitus Cycle" in Ancient Greece, lasting for 10,800 years, the length of three Nibiruan "shars". It, too, must be ending. And as far as where we are in the Buddhist cycle of 64 (NB: akin to the Mayan number!), it wouldn't be too far off the mark to suggest that we're possibly on the brink of a Buddhist "destruction by wind".
...continued at this link www.apollonius.net...
The Buddhists have a divine sequence of 64 great world-destructions, each composed of 4 "immensities", much like the four Yugas or "ages" of Hinduism. The first 7 destructions are by water and affect only our domain of the Heaven of the Radiant Gods. The eighth destruction is by fire, cleansing everything from the Heaven of the Completely Lustrous Gods on down. Then the 7 by water repeat to be followed by a 16th (or second 8th) by fire, as above. This cycle repeats 63 times; but the 64th destruction (the 8th 8) is by wind, demolishing even the Heaven of the Richly Rewarded Gods. Then the cycle of 64 starts all over again. This is most certainly meant by that passage from the Hindu Mahabharata in which it is stated: "The time for the purification of the worlds has now arrived. The period dreadful for the Universe, both moving and fixed, has come."
One of these great cycles is about to end, on or before the year 2012 CE. In all likelihood, we are approaching the simultaneous ending of the current Hindu "Kali Yuga" of 432,000 years and the Mayan "Atautun" of 64,000,000. There was also a "Heracleitus Cycle" in Ancient Greece, lasting for 10,800 years, the length of three Nibiruan "shars". It, too, must be ending. And as far as where we are in the Buddhist cycle of 64 (NB: akin to the Mayan number!), it wouldn't be too far off the mark to suggest that we're possibly on the brink of a Buddhist "destruction by wind".
...continued at this link www.apollonius.net...
reply posted on 2-1-2011 @ 10:14 AM by stereologist
reply to post by leeangqi
There is nothing there linking 2012 to any of these proposed cycles. It is just supposition that these cycles are in any way related or when the cyclic times start/end. it is just supposition that any of these cycles exist. In fact, what we do observe about the world is that there are no cycles.
There is nothing there linking 2012 to any of these proposed cycles. It is just supposition that these cycles are in any way related or when the cyclic times start/end. it is just supposition that any of these cycles exist. In fact, what we do observe about the world is that there are no cycles.
reply posted on 2-1-2011 @ 11:18 AM by -W1LL
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by leeangqi
There is nothing there linking 2012 to any of these proposed cycles. It is just supposition that these cycles are in any way related or when the cyclic times start/end. it is just supposition that any of these cycles exist. In fact, what we do observe about the world is that there are no cycles.
the earth has NO cycles really? you really believe that. almost all of you posts here are supposition and contradictions you should give up while youre not ahead.
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reply posted on 2-1-2011 @ 12:08 PM by stereologist
reply to post by -W1LL
Even the year is not a true cycle. The length of the year changes over time. Give up while you can.
The non-astronomical cycles is what I was referring to. These claims of cycles are unsubstantiated rubbish.
the earth has NO cycles really? you really believe that. almost all of you posts here are supposition and contradictions you should give up while youre not ahead.
Even the year is not a true cycle. The length of the year changes over time. Give up while you can.
The non-astronomical cycles is what I was referring to. These claims of cycles are unsubstantiated rubbish.
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reply posted on 2-1-2011 @ 12:33 PM by GunzCoty
reply to post by MrXYZ
Maybe i can clear the "the calendar ends" up for you.
When "most" people say "the calendar ends" they mean that the cycle ends and the Mayan (as well as others like the Hopi) have said when a great cycle ends a new world is born or old destroyed.
What i mean is in one ancient culture or another a we have had 4-5 worlds/Suns come and go. And they believe 2012 will be another "cleansing of the earth".
We know the world will not end as the calendar will not end,just reset. As you may have heard people say "the world will end as we know it" (sometimes referring to the bible) that only tells us what may have happened.
Has the world as we know it ended? Or will it end if the Sun gives off and "EMP" that wipes out all our technology? Think about that, if that happened the world as we know it would end many would die the world would be a mess. But it would not "end".
And is that not possible in 2012? (or now for that matter).
It does not end but it is the cycle that ends.Then you have people who say the calendar ends and believe it does. lol
Maybe i can clear the "the calendar ends" up for you.
When "most" people say "the calendar ends" they mean that the cycle ends and the Mayan (as well as others like the Hopi) have said when a great cycle ends a new world is born or old destroyed.
What i mean is in one ancient culture or another a we have had 4-5 worlds/Suns come and go. And they believe 2012 will be another "cleansing of the earth".
We know the world will not end as the calendar will not end,just reset. As you may have heard people say "the world will end as we know it" (sometimes referring to the bible) that only tells us what may have happened.
Has the world as we know it ended? Or will it end if the Sun gives off and "EMP" that wipes out all our technology? Think about that, if that happened the world as we know it would end many would die the world would be a mess. But it would not "end".
And is that not possible in 2012? (or now for that matter).
It does not end but it is the cycle that ends.Then you have people who say the calendar ends and believe it does. lol
reply posted on 2-1-2011 @ 01:27 PM by MrXYZ
reply to post by GunzCoty
Simply put, we have no scientific evidence that would suggest anything will happen...
Simply put, we have no scientific evidence that would suggest anything will happen...
reply posted on 2-1-2011 @ 03:56 PM by GunzCoty
reply to post by MrXYZ
To say "we have no scientific evidence that would suggest anything will happen" Is a "yes and no" at the same time we have it but cant pin-point it to a year or day. The video you posted is confusing. What this man is talking about has nothing to do with 2012 and i agree with him on some of what he says.
He seems to be talking about what some people (maybe a lot) think (without researching) but there is a "Galactic Alignment" but it is not a "every year" thing it occurs only once every 26,000 years (+/- 18 years).
And there is a "magnetic pole reversal" happening now (has been for years now) but it has happened in the past and we don't know how long it will take. Could speed up and happen next week next year or in 10 years. As to what that means is unknown could be just your compass becomes outdated but could be much much more.
He never talks about many things science sees happening today that can be very bad for mankind (but we can not pinpoint it to a year let alone a day in that year) And this" nibaru " or planet X crap? what is with that stuff anyway?
Why do people think that hack Z.Sitchen said anything about nibaru (spelling) and 2012? Did he not say a 13,000 or 130,000 year cycle? Or something like that? Putting it way past 2012 or an i incorrect?
To say "we have no scientific evidence that would suggest anything will happen" Is a "yes and no" at the same time we have it but cant pin-point it to a year or day. The video you posted is confusing. What this man is talking about has nothing to do with 2012 and i agree with him on some of what he says.
He seems to be talking about what some people (maybe a lot) think (without researching) but there is a "Galactic Alignment" but it is not a "every year" thing it occurs only once every 26,000 years (+/- 18 years).
And there is a "magnetic pole reversal" happening now (has been for years now) but it has happened in the past and we don't know how long it will take. Could speed up and happen next week next year or in 10 years. As to what that means is unknown could be just your compass becomes outdated but could be much much more.
He never talks about many things science sees happening today that can be very bad for mankind (but we can not pinpoint it to a year let alone a day in that year) And this" nibaru " or planet X crap? what is with that stuff anyway?
Why do people think that hack Z.Sitchen said anything about nibaru (spelling) and 2012? Did he not say a 13,000 or 130,000 year cycle? Or something like that? Putting it way past 2012 or an i incorrect?
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reply posted on 2-1-2011 @ 04:38 PM by MrXYZ
reply to post by GunzCoty
Last Niburu thread I read some people were claiming Niburu is really a brown dwarf and that's why we can't see it yet...because it's obviously dark...get it?
Look, most of that 2012 stuff is based on the Mayans. And like Neil DeGrasse Tyson ("that guy in the video"...and a very bright astro-physicist) said correctly: Why should we trust (arguably incorrect) interpretations of Mayan remains in the first place?
Yes they were pretty savvy when it comes to astronomy, but they also believed the world to be flat, square-shaped, resting on the back of a crocodile that swims in a lilly pond...and that lilly pond is held up by 4 trees that all have a different color.
I mean, comon'!! For crying out loud, they sacrificed humans so the gods would be merciful!!! Basically, all those 2012 people buy into the same crap the "repent now!" crazy people on Times Square and Speaker's Corner have been shouting for decades. It's quite sad really to see so many gullible people
Last Niburu thread I read some people were claiming Niburu is really a brown dwarf and that's why we can't see it yet...because it's obviously dark...get it?
Look, most of that 2012 stuff is based on the Mayans. And like Neil DeGrasse Tyson ("that guy in the video"...and a very bright astro-physicist) said correctly: Why should we trust (arguably incorrect) interpretations of Mayan remains in the first place?
Yes they were pretty savvy when it comes to astronomy, but they also believed the world to be flat, square-shaped, resting on the back of a crocodile that swims in a lilly pond...and that lilly pond is held up by 4 trees that all have a different color.
I mean, comon'!! For crying out loud, they sacrificed humans so the gods would be merciful!!! Basically, all those 2012 people buy into the same crap the "repent now!" crazy people on Times Square and Speaker's Corner have been shouting for decades. It's quite sad really to see so many gullible people
reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 01:05 AM by Fiberx
reply to post by CHA0S
We recently passed the mid-plane of our galaxy. If we must rise or fall to a peak or trough in the cycle for the cosmic ray theory to be in force we must have millions of years left until that time. If one cycle is mid -> top, top -> mid, mid -> bottom, bottom -> mid , that is 4 legs in the complete cycle. Having just left the mid we should have ~16 million years before we reach an outer extreme.
Maybe the Mayans meant 16,002,012?
We recently passed the mid-plane of our galaxy. If we must rise or fall to a peak or trough in the cycle for the cosmic ray theory to be in force we must have millions of years left until that time. If one cycle is mid -> top, top -> mid, mid -> bottom, bottom -> mid , that is 4 legs in the complete cycle. Having just left the mid we should have ~16 million years before we reach an outer extreme.
Maybe the Mayans meant 16,002,012?
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