Fox News Guest "If you are an 18-28 year old muslim you should be stripped searched"

Originally posted by ModernAcademia


It's not racial profiling, it's just profiling????

It's been pretty well established that AQ profile of one of their suicide lackeys fits a certain criteria. To not pay closer attention to those that fit that profile (Male, Muslim, Fundamentalist, Age 18-30, with ties to other known radical Fundamentalist Muslims) is to be ignoring the Elephant in the room.

If most terrorist that try to blow up planes were 70 year old white Pentecostal females, I would expect them to get similar treatment. Until AQ moves away from it's current batch of lackeys (It's tried intentionally to recruit non Arab's for this very reason) it makes sense to focus more attention on those that fit the current criteria of an AQ Bomber/Highjacker.

I am not saying search all Muslims, but those that fit the criteria I laid out, should get run through a fine tooth comb.

Originally posted by Viper2097

Originally posted by Kaploink
Are you kidding me?

Could you imagine the outrage if this was being done to all Christians entering another country. Perhaps to make sure that the Christians entering the country aren't carrying any weapons that they may be used to kill doctors that do procedures they don't agree with.

All Christians are not doctor murderers. Likewise all Muslims are not terrorists.

Oh and P.S. No, All Muslims are not terroists.. But yes... All terroists are Muslims.

You can't be serious? You actually believe some stormfront white power quote like that??
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And there's a lot more then just those.

Wow it never ceases to amaze me how many people on a site with the slogan "deny ignorance" seem to just believe everything they see on tv. Some of you buy right into the fear inducing crap they play on televsion like believing all muslims are terrorists...etc. Rediculous.

Also I was just thinking about this, how do you tell if a airline passenger is a muslim? lol. Are they just going to be going by names or something? This whole thing is quite rediculous.

Peace


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double post, sorry mods.

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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
I think this happens a lot to all kinds of people in london, but my bro is muslim and this happened yesterday so why not share.

My bro got roughed up and strip searched yesterday simply for an accident.
He accidently broke something in a public toilet and hurt himself, so he was bleeding.

Police see him, he doesn't struggle, but they cuff him up tight push him to the ground and the policeman pushes his knee on my bros head hard, all the time my bro is calm and asking why he's doing that.




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Umm thats some BS. Sorry to hear that happened to your brother. I mean I just read your story and am just shaking my head at the rediculous behavior of these cops. He wasnt doing anything he simply accidently cuts himself and gets that kind of treatment? BS!

Peace out

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I guess parents are scared. After 9/11 I wouldnt blame them. There is nothing I wouldnt do to protect my children. Im not supporting what they are doing, But I can understand the fear which is among these parents.

Originally posted by Viper2097

Oh and P.S. No, All Muslims are not terroists.. But yes... All terroists are Muslims.

Timothy McVeigh, the Unibomber and I all had the same Imam.

Originally posted by pavil

Originally posted by ModernAcademia


It's not racial profiling, it's just profiling????

It's been pretty well established that AQ profile of one of their suicide lackeys fits a certain criteria. To not pay closer attention to those that fit that profile (Male, Muslim, Fundamentalist, Age 18-30, with ties to other known radical Fundamentalist Muslims) is to be ignoring the Elephant in the room.

Actually, I think the elephant in the room would be - how are airlines supposed to know your religion, how fundamentally you take, and what ties you have. If you can tell me that, I am all on board.

Few points- I'm from Northern Ireland, and when the troubles were happening, anyone on a flight from NI was automatically dealt with differently than a flight from anywhere else in the UK, and I don't recall any victimhood yapping.


There is no doubt that Muslim terrorism is beyond compare in terms of terrorism related to any particular religion (without 100% perfection either way, as this is the land of man), however much of this is just about state control of us all.

Also, with increasing Muslim populations in Europe and the US the threat is increasingly home grown- how dare our establishment permit mass immigration and then try and curb our freedoms on the excuse of terror in the airlines

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Why just 18-28 year old males? Why not everyone?

Targetting a specific demographic leaves glaring holes, targetting the entire population just takes away once believed freedoms. Welcome to the land of the free...well, unless we think you might be a terrorist.

Originally posted by links234
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Why just 18-28 year old males? Why not everyone?

Targetting a specific demographic leaves glaring holes, targetting the entire population just takes away once believed freedoms. Welcome to the land of the free...well, unless we think you might be a terrorist.

I agree with the thinking about restricting our freedoms, but specifically on who to target, let's disregard white grannies

Until the muslims stop their 1,400 year long Jihad to dominate the world, then I say go ahead and strip search them before boarding a plane. It is a minor inconvenience and will stigmatize the followers of Allah. Perhaps then, when the harsh light of reality shines upon them, they will reform their brutal and misogynistic culture.

Why should we always be the victims? I am tired of the endless gyrations people put themselves through in an effort to appease the ever gaping maw of Islamic Imperialism.

Free Constantinople!

Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
Until the muslims stop their 1,400 year long Jihad to dominate the world, then I say go ahead and strip search them before boarding a plane. It is a minor inconvenience and will stigmatize the followers of Allah. Perhaps then, when the harsh light of reality shines upon them, they will reform their brutal and misogynistic culture.

Why should we always be the victims? I am tired of the endless gyrations people put themselves through in an effort to appease the ever gaping maw of Islamic Imperialism.

Free Constantinople!

So um....like I said. How are the airlines supposed to know who is a Muslim and who is not? Let's just say that everyone agrees with your sentiment. OK, now what. How are they supposed to know who is a Muslim?

Originally posted by LillydaleSo um....like I said. How are the airlines supposed to know who is a Muslim and who is not? Let's just say that everyone agrees with your sentiment. OK, now what. How are they supposed to know who is a Muslim?

They can never fully know this, maybe it means targeting nations where islamic insurgency is particularly potent.............................unfortunately this would include the UK (where I live), we grow/import our own Islamic nutters

Originally posted by Lillydale
So um....like I said. How are the airlines supposed to know who is a Muslim and who is not? Let's just say that everyone agrees with your sentiment. OK, now what. How are they supposed to know who is a Muslim?

They will probably start with Muslim looking people coming out of terrorist harboring countries,

the problem is what happens when the terrorists start using white muslims for their bombings or even women, uh oh, then we have to start strip searching everyone that comes out of those countries, this is going to be very expensive, oh well, more jobs at airports!!!!

Anyways i dont know why anyone would be talking about freedoms being lost, you have no freedoms in the first place, USA is a communist country, and no i dont mean "its becoming a communist country", it is right now and has been for years, and i like it that way

Originally posted by tankthinker
Anyways i dont know why anyone would be talking about freedoms being lost, you have no freedoms in the first place, USA is a communist country, and no i dont mean "its becoming a communist country", it is right now and has been for years, and i like it that way

well it isn't "communist", though it certainly does have socialist elements built into policy and planning- why anyone would be like to live under a communist rule though, is quite baffling

Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
I was going to say that there really isnt a need for everyone to be going through these scanners... there are only one group (at this moment in time) trying to blow up airliners and these groups of people should all go through the scanners... not everyone!

It really isnt fair that every living person should go through the scanners and have touch down searches when it is a minority group causing this...

What happens in the next moment in time when a white man does it?

Then they'll have to start putting all White males through the scanner who fit the group!!

This isn't a White/Black/Brown thing.... it's a Religious thing!!

Originally posted by blueorder
well it isn't "communist", though it certainly does have socialist elements built into policy and planning- why anyone would be like to live under a communist rule though, is quite baffling

hmmm, your right communist wasnt a good word, i meant more along the lines of totalitarian!!! and no im not just saying that because im some patriot that is antigovernment (i love the government), i actually live in canada so... lol
anyways if you look at the law deep enough and understand how the courts really work, you will see the totalitarian regime in almost all countries, the best part is that people gave up their rights all by themselves, they actually sign off their rights and freedoms, and they dont even realize they are doing it

btw. the ones who would want to live under communist rule are those who rule the communist country or at least those who were dirt poor in a democratic system

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

You spend so much time speaking ill of other countries but then end up wanting to stoop to their level?????

If you consider your nation better than these countries then how can you say "why can't we do it, they do it too"

If you want to debate with me, Debate me on things that I have actually said, If your argument is strong, You wont need to make things up that I have said.

Where did I speak ill of other countries? Oh, and whose level is it that I am supposedly stooping to?
I dont want to put words in your mouth but it seems to me as though you are saying that other countries are at a level below mine or yours, and that is the level that I am stooping to? hmm.. If that IS indeed what you are saying then I would ask you this: Who is speaking ill of other countries? It seems to be you...

Where is it that I said that I consider my nation to be "better" than another? I don't even recall saying what country I live in?

Oh, And where did I imply that my country should be implementing the polices of other countries?

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
A few words, native americans and indian reservations
do you wish to rephrase your question now?

Actually no, But I will try to qualify, Although that may be hard because, instead of actually putting forth a statement or a question, You have just said two nouns, which, well... I will try to give you a specific answer to a cryptic question which is always hard.

Are you going to sit there and tell me that native americans didn't take their tribes into other tribe's territory and commit genocide to claim it as their own? Hmm...
Yes, Yes.. I know its PC to blame "whitie" for everything wrong with the world but you could probably use a different example, even if you have to go further and further back into history than you already did with the 2 nouns that you managed to spell out.

And regarding Indian reservations... You do now that an Indian Reservation is a GOOD thing right? as in... Native Americans WANT them, Did you think they were prisons or something? Cute...

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
So you are under the assumption that all muslims have women covered from head to toe?????
If so you really need to get out more.

Again, when using a rebuttal, Remember that there is no point in making one if you have to construct your own argument from my side of the debate.
To answer your question: "Am I under the assumption that all muslims have women covered from head to toe?" Umm.... No? huh?

Originally posted by Viper2097
Oh and P.S. No, All Muslims are not terroists.. But yes... All terroists are Muslims. s

I put this quote in after a "p.s." to separate it from the rest of my post, It is an old joke and wasn't intended to be taken literally. I am quite surprised that the vast majority of replies to my post have been aimed at this one quote and not at the serious things that I wrote.
In saying that, I DID write it and I shouldn't hide behind the old "I was only joking line"
I do realise that it was inappropriate and I am big enough to admit it, I understand that these topics can get very heated and putting stuff like that in my post doesn't do me any favours when I would like to be taken seriously. Im sorry to anyone that I may have offended.

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F airport scanners, round up muslims and put microchips up their butts. Unless they collectively as 1.6 billion muslims can turn in Zawahiri then microchips, anal.