reply to post by Ghost in the Machine
Your post is a common argument and has two aspects to it so it might be a long post, but the argument is simply based on a few myths that have come
about to due to lack of information.
The first common myth is that a person that's never heard of Jesus will automatically suffer in Hell. Actually the NT tells us those that have never
heard of Jesus will instead be judged by their own moral laws or codes then in that case and that God has revealed himself to us through nature and
our own hearts (our own feelings of guilt and such).
I leave the looking up of that on Google to you, because my post will already be long, but there is scripture to support that. There are sections of
the Bible that explain this and why they should go out spreading the Gospel and they actually cover this very question right in the Bible.
The next step is to understand who Jesus was talking to. Jesus was talking to the Jewish people and telling them following their own moral code (which
had become even more complex over the years when God told them not to add or subtract a single word from it) was never going to get them into Heaven,
because it was so complex, that if they were ever judged by it, it would result in death for all of them. A much easier way is to believe in Jesus
first so they can be forgiven when they mess up.
It's not unlike our own legal system where we have so many complex laws it is estimated that the average "law abiding citizen" actually breaks up
to one law a day. Jesus was saying you'll never make it. Just believe in me instead and let my teachings and the Holy Spirit guide your heart from
So why go around teaching people about Jesus? Well, do you really want to be judged by your own moral code? You'd be making the same mistake that the
Jewish people that Jesus was talking to was making. Think about what it is? Write down your own list of what you think the 10 commandments should be.
Write down 10 rules that you would give to a child to tell them how to live their life. Then go down the list and you'll see you've probably broke
one or more of them at one point in your life. I've never met a person that's actually passed this test. It's much easier to get into Heaven by
believing in Jesus than it is to pass your own moral code. It's not impossible, but why bother? Just believe in Jesus.
And if someone has broken one of their own laws, and Jesus wasn't real, then how do you fix it? When it comes time for god to judge you what do you
do? Get punished for some mistake you made ages ago? One mistake and you're out? We don't believe in forgiveness anymore? Jesus provides grace and
forgiveness which the law did not.
But Hell is for those that have had the truth revealed to them and choose to reject it anyway and so choose to be judged by the law. Not for those
that have never been given the chance to hear it and have never been given a choice.
The second aspect is the unfairness argument. Isn't it unfair that God would send one to Hell for rejecting him? Well, the purpose of the argument is
to be subversive and try to make people stop believing in God by showing he's unfair somehow. It's a common atheist argument.
However, the flaw in logic is, you can't prove God isn't real by proving he his unfair. He may very well exist and simply be a jerk, but more
importantly let me explain why the unfairness argument doesn't really tell us anything.
What if you worshiped Jesus all your life only to find out he wasn't real and you were worshiping a false god and not the real God? What happens? Do
you go to Hell then if the Islamic god was the right one? Or the greek god Zeus was the right one?
Let's assume that you do, what does that mean? That means that whoever the real god was, he was just as unfair as the Christian god was wasn't he?
Not only does the Christian god send you to Hell if you don't believe in it, apparently all the other gods do the same thing!! So, it doesn't sound
like any of them are fair are they?
But let's assume there is a fair god. Let's assume that when you get to Heaven and you find out you were worshiping the wrong god the fair god says,
you know what? It happens all the time. It's not your fault, you had it wrong, but oh well. Come on in anyway brother!
Okay, if that's the case then the Christian god would be wrong, but the correct god would let you in anyway so it wouldn't even matter. So, in that
case your best bet would still be to stick with Christianity. Why?
Because in Christianity god has made it really easy on us and all you have to do is believe in Jesus and try to be like him even if you fail it. One
of the easiest religious ever. And to top it off, if your god turns out not to be real, the fair god will let you into Heaven anyway, you can't lose
But if the Christian god is real your bases are still covered right? The only time it becomes a problem though, is if all the other gods are just as
unfair as the Christian god, but very few of them have provided an easy out like the Christian god has. Sounds to me like the Christian god is one of
the fairest of all actually.
[edit on 4-1-2010 by tinfoilman]