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posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 02:47 AM
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I created this thread to clarify some subject matter which has been shared by the user "Unleashed68" in his recent threads on this forum (Gray Area). The two threads are:

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The information I have is not simply subordinate to those two threads but is superior to that which Unleashed68 is able to share, and indeed includes information about the nature of Unleashed68 himself. All in all this is very high level information, and will expound on particular parts of Unleashed68's posts that he only touched on briefly. Much of the information Unleashed68 has shared is redundant in the context of what is often discussed on forums such as these. He did however touch on some points that were unusual even for sites such as AboveTopSecret. That he even briefly brought them into focus is rare enough. It has sparked some curiosity, questions, and interest, which I can answer. He did make it clear that he is holding certain things back. I, however, can give more information.

First, let this be an opportunity to distinguish some certain types of people. Unleashed68's attitude towards the knowledge which he attained is characteristic of a certain type of high level person. He has seen the so-called "spiritual side" of things. But what is this exactly? In his second thread in particular ("Imagine Reality: The Illusion of Life") he goes into detail about "spiritual" matters from his point of view. Now, he is a high level person, but there are other high level people and the information he shared is really from the same general point of view of many others. That is, it focuses on a "hidden" realm "behind" the "material" realm. The so-called "spiritual" realm.

By default we can say that there is the "material" realm and the "spiritual" realm. We can also categorize high level people into those that focus on the material apparent realm and those that focus on the spiritual hidden realm. The spiritual HLs (high levelers) can often see themselves as superior to the physical HLs because they see things which the physical HLs do not. Likewise the material HLs can often see themselves as superior to the spiritual HLs for seeing what is obvious and not being "delusional." However, both of them are inherently flawed, even though people will often value one over the other, usually because they are lacking in an area of the "duality."

Which brings us to the crux of this discussion, and that which is rarely discussed: The realm that is above these two realms.

There is a third general class of high level being, which is above both the high level material and high level spiritual. We could call it Ultra High Level. It is not a "fusion" of the two. The two lower HL classes could actually be grouped with all the levels below them in relation to the Ultra High Level. All the levels below Ultra High Level can be considered flawed, and the two lower HL classes can be considered pure flawed states which are closer to the Ultra High Level.

(continued below...)




posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 03:02 AM
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You should take a look at my most recent post, maybe you would be able to contribute something to it that could help me.



EDIT: SORRY! didnt see the continuing part

[edit on 3-1-2010 by gandhi]



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 04:09 AM
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In Unleashed68's first thread ("True Event: Alien Interaction Nobody has Ever Heard Before Today"), the last being which he described visiting him is characterized to me as an Ultra High Level being.

There are several parts of his description which characterize this being as an Ultra High Level being to me:

1, He described it as being considerably more advanced than what humanity typically calls aliens; that the typical aliens are primitive compared to this being. What is commonly called aliens and commonly discussed on this site as aliens are actually entities which fill the space between the flawed levels of people. They have an intimate relationship with the flawed levels. They are subservient to the flawed levels although the flawed levels do not always accept this and can allow them to appear dominant. The Ultra High Levelers are not subservient to those below them. They have an incredible amount of control and power.
2. Unlike the previous aliens, this being spoke to him in clear English. The low level people are often not aware of the common aliens, so the aliens will often communicate emotionally, according to the typically emotional and latent influence of low levelers. The Ultra High Levelers are much more likely to communicate in a more direct manner. They emanate their own volition and understanding.
3. Unlike the previous aliens who visited him, he found it impossible to describe the appearance of this being. This is a result of a spiritual perception of the Ultra High Level beings, which are superior to the spiritual. This is a distinct result of the flaws which people of both material and spiritual alignment carry. Whereas the common aliens are subjected to the material/spiritual perceptions of the flawed levels, the Ultra High Levelers are not required to defer to the flawed levels, which can result in an indescribable translation.

Also, Unleashed68's general explanation of his perception of the human condition, agendas, conflicts, fate, etc. is not unexpected from one of his kind who has been in contact with an Ultra High Level being.

Ultra High Levelers can be called Taarakians.

I have more expatiation to give on Ultra High Level beings, but I'm going to take a break now and will check on this thread later.

[edit on 3-1-2010 by metalore]



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 04:22 AM
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Taarakians huh? What all this talk about levels? Where did you get this information from?



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 05:40 AM
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Not sure why...but i'll bet you he turns out to be an 'Ultra high leveler'.

Or are you are 'low leveler'.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 06:33 AM
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lol, yeah it sounds like somebody is definetely ultra high!

taarakians, i dont mean to be rude but please, come on this stuff really makes me despair of ats at times.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 07:59 AM
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Sounds Like Stargate to me



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 10:16 AM
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Well Unleashed 68 last post dealing with the human condition really didnt sit well with me. I understand here what Metalore is saying here about a higher high. I cant really question any of that of what either U68 and Metalore trust as these events being true. But I strongly disagree with the position on the human condition. U68's comments about that come off as he has no faith or trust in human will. He supports the continued cover-up of the ETE presence saying that we cant handle the truth or any tiny part of it. I find that to be rather rash.

The recent Norway spiral incident, followed by the Tetrahedron over the Kremlin all in the same day. The recent video of the guy in Mexico who ask a bus driver to stop so he could film a bell shaped UFO releasing hundreds of spheres that went dancing around the sky. I mean if those events that were witnessed by masses of people didn't cause a "panic" or frenzied state then whats the problem? The Billy Miere account to this day has to be the most hard evidence of these beings at what ever level of evolution they are at visiting us on a huge scale. Billy didn't freak out. He hasnt "lost his mind".

To me U68 support of suppression only leads to the condition he describes that we humans are in and that totally dismisses this question about low, mid, or high level beings. Its dosent matter. If it did then all the ETE's that visit us from other planets would be subject to the same "condition". These human ETE's would have to come in contact with these higher level ETE's at some point. So why arent they going crazy or "not handling the truth"? So basically the reason this "condition" exist is due to the suppression of KNOWLEDGE.

Im pretty sure when disclosure happens there are going to be a large group of people like U68 has stated that will break down. I do agree with that to that degree. However there will also be a large, very large number of people who already have a general idea about these guys and will not affect them one bit. If anything "we" will be the ones to help comfort those who just couldn't handle it. It all boils down to knowledge. And its been trickled down in movies and television shows for years now about all this stuff. Humans are very resilient and tenacious. We have survived some horrific events and we are still here. Humbug!!!! Humans can take anything!

Obviously these guys that visit us have grown up in a very dynamic Galactic/Universe society. That's visible through our own ancient history. So we have obviously been keep from this Universe society in a rather big way. And Im pretty sure there are hundreds more planets just like Earth with humans just like us at this very stage of evolution. They are going through the same issues we are and are probably having this very same discussion on a forum just like this, hahaha. This "condition" has to be wide spread, but it must be something that can be overcome other wise ETE's and UFO' really wouldn't exist.



posted on Jan, 3 2010 @ 03:33 PM
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I will now discuss a profound concept: The nature of Ultra High Level beings.

It is a concept that can be great and/or terrible. It is a concept which is so pervasive, that lower level beings repeatedly base their flawed knowledge of higher truth on it, only to create a flawed truth as a result of their own inherent flaws. It is a concept which can be wonderful or awful. Beings of lower material and spiritual alignment are constantly creating flawed representations of this concept because of their inherent flaws. As the appearance of Ultra High Level beings to the spiritual high level beings is indescribable, so too is the pursuit of material/spiritual aligned beings to define the truths of the Ultra High Level beings based on their own flawed understanding inevitably futile, misleading, disgusting, and the cause of so much flawed assumption. People of material/spiritual alignment so easily and often "backslide" into the flawed truths based on the flawed realms which they are relegated to. Theirs is by default a disgusting distortion. When they actually are confronted by the force of knowledge which an Ultra HIgh Level being carries, their reaction can be not unlike that of Unleashed68.

How is the nature of Ultra High Levelers described? Even though people of material/spiritual alignment are constantly creating flawed truths, they are also inevitably "brushing up" against Ultra High Levelers. Sometimes they are made aware of it. Often they are not aware of it. Even though people of material/spiritual alignment are flawed and see themselves and their surroundings through a flawed spectrum, the Ultra High Level beings see these lesser people in ways which the lesser people themselves do not see themselves.

Let us consider the people that we see everyday. Let's say we see a woman. The woman interacts with her surroundings and with us. Eventually the woman leaves our presence and we do not see her anymore. When we saw the woman, she was wearing clothes. Maybe she had a pet animal. We naturally assume that she was being exposed to the air which surrounds as. We naturally assume that, like all people, there are microscopic creatures on her skin, on her body. That she is composed of tiny living cells and bacteria. That they are on, in, and around her.

Now, this woman leaves our sight -- perhaps she turns a corner and we do not see her anymore. Perhaps the woman was dressed very nicely and attractively. We assume that once a being or entity or object leaves our sight that it continues to live its existence as we expect others to live their lives. We know people and hear people speak of what they have done, what they are doing, and what they will do. Many of these things are assumed to be done away from our presence. We assume that people will go home to an abode of some sort, that they will get into bed, sleep, eat. We might assume they will have sex with a spouse in private. So many of us know each other and confirm to each other that when we are away from each other, we continue to act of our own accord and pursue our own interests. We tell each other these things, and expect each other to believe these things, and we expect all the people in the world operate this way, and that whether they are our friends, enemies, or strangers, every person, entity, or object is constantly living and going about their business.

But is this the truth? When the woman turns the corner and we cease to sense her, is she really continuing to live as we have come to believe? Perhaps we have every indication that she must live somewhere, that she must eat something, that she must have money -- otherwise how could she live? Surely this woman can't be single? A virgin? Do we somehow have every indication that she is not?

When she walks around the corner and has left our vision, is she around the corner?

(continued below...)



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 02:47 AM
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and?? I think your on to something interesting... go on

I believe the best insult to this arrogant god is to not have children.
We will choose not to have any more offspring.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 02:56 AM
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Come on man, get off of it, .... I know that your " unleashed" I just read his " last " thread about how he is supposed to dissapear after thursday or something....... let me guess, your going to take his place ??

you need to accept what has happened to you and stop looking for a source of self esteem online.

You claim to be this and that but your just angry and hurt.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
reply to post by metalore
 


Come on man, get off of it, .... I know that your " unleashed" I just read his " last " thread about how he is supposed to dissapear after thursday or something....... let me guess, your going to take his place ??

you need to accept what has happened to you and stop looking for a source of self esteem online.

You claim to be this and that but your just angry and hurt.


Great find mate! You hit the nail on the head.

I was wondering when he would open a new avatar and start posting things to corroborate his own rubbish - much like the supporting comments posted by a few "others" (same person as Unleashed).

He thinks that volumes of rubbish speak as if they were fact.

When in FACT, volumes of rubbish sound like volumes of rubbish - no matter how many times they are said.

Did you miss Xenu's ship picking you up unleashed - or did they pick you up, wipe your memory.. install a new psyche (with the same old notions) and give you a new name to post with on ATS?

ATS has seen the likes of this before and no doubt it is not going to end.

Heck - he could have waited more than a day before making up a new alter ego to support his "information"...



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 06:41 AM
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Careful guys.... metalore registered before Unleashed (i know he could have planned it that way).

Let the mods take care of it you might unwittingly derail a legit thread.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
reply to post by metalore
 


Come on man, get off of it, .... I know that your " unleashed" I just read his " last " thread about how he is supposed to dissapear after thursday or something....... let me guess, your going to take his place ??



Nice pick up mate!

If you check metalore's posting history, it's been a 'sleeper profile' since February of last year (2009). The first post since then was the 03-01-10. Perhaps to slightly overlap with Unleashed's alleged departure.. which is interesting. Smoke & Mirrors?

Another thing I noted by looking at metalore's posting history is that he never partook and any of Unleashed'd threads... which is odd for someone so eager to continue his work.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I will be reporting this to the staff for further inquiry as they can cross reference IP's.

IRM


[edit on 15/1/10 by InfaRedMan]



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 07:54 AM
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What happened to the fact that each member has the right to express themselves on ATS and the fact that members aren't allowed to discuss other members. Have the rules changed?

2) Behavior: You will not behave in an abusive, hateful, intolerant, bigoted and/or racist manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.

2d.) Forum Gangs: You will not engaged in an organized collaboration with other members to disrupt thread topics or interrupt the flow of normal collaborative discussion

2g.) Board Wars: You will not use these boards to organize "attacks" on other boards, blogs, or discussion groups, and similarly, you will not organize such attacks against this board. Doing so will result in removal of your post(s) and immediate termination of your account.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:13 AM
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They are probably on to something... But... There also a little upset that they were named out as "sandcastle" kickers.

Was an apt analogy as they did walk in and kick Unleashed's thread, after multiple people had chimed in and said they liked it..

A definite "ganging up" occurring here.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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I belong to no gang thank you very much! We are simply individuals that share the believe that the Op is taking advantage of people. We are not affiliated to each other in any way.

You can't get rid of people that don't share your ideology by proclaiming them as a gang. If that was the case, there would be no one left at ATS!

IRM



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:43 AM
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No one is sending him donations, flowers or postcards. The odd "blue star" and a flag here and there..

It's a definite call for help IMO and if people say they "support him" and that "yah, you've had a rough life", it just might lift his spirits up and bring him out of his "supposed deluded state".

You're just presenting him with more of the same ridicule/resistance that hes seen throughout his life, causing him to develop elaborate theories about people "out to get him"..

So......I say you're getting taken advantage of.. He's looking for that same pattern that hes always seen throughout his life, you're providing the necessary fuel for his dialectic..

And, you did gang on him a bit..




[edit on 15-1-2010 by RingsWithinRings]

[edit on 15-1-2010 by RingsWithinRings]

[edit on 15-1-2010 by RingsWithinRings]



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by RingsWithinRings
And, you did gang on him a bit..


I'm hardly a part of a gang mate!

Anyways... there's no further need to defend myself as I've already told you the truth, and that's more than I can say for some others.

Nuff Said!

IRM

[edit on 15/1/10 by InfaRedMan]



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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I would have to say that an Ultra High Level being would be from a higher sephiroth.

The Tree of Life contains ten centers (possibly 10 dimensions) called sephiroth. In a numerological sense, the Tree of Sephiroth has significance. Between the 10 Sephiroth run 22 channels or paths which connect them, a number which can be associated with the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet.
www.crystalinks.com...

www.crystalinks.com...

Check here too, for the Flower of Life, which I also believe is related to these 10 dimensions of time/space that we live in.
www.floweroflife.org...

Taking into account just the Dream world we all experience while sleeping, it is quite easy, with some research to conclude that there are many slightly different dimensions. Knowing this brings one to a higher plane in mind and body. this is called "Walking between the Worlds," if the reader has ever heard these words before.



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