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Bill Cooper , 'insectlike' beings from a totally incomprehensible culture

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posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 03:12 AM
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Good job in completely ignoring the fact that he threatened to open fire on authorities. You do not have to speculate as to all the reasons it would not make sense when he gave us all the answer himself. Keep up the delusion though.




posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 03:20 AM
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Your post has inspired me to create the following piece of modern art. I had a thought and then thought 'I must make art of this!"
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*I think it captures the mood and vibe of the current Cooper fan base.





posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 03:25 AM
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Nice work Exubie


Some posts in this thread are devoid of content or thought. It's like toddlers at the nursery...pinching, sulking and name calling. Pretty funny really


Bill Cooper should used as a caution to people that they should never turn their brains off. Plus too open-minded and the birds come and eat the brains! Ewwww



posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 03:40 AM
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One of the most annoying things about Cooper was how when someone would post some completely original idea, he would say "Yeah...I read about that during my stint with CINPACFLT..."


I even thought he was going to say it about Bob Lazar...

"Yeah... during my stint at CINPAFLT I read some documents about this kid who had just been born...."




Edit: I think it was when he tried it with O.H. KRILL, that BS was first called on that line. (Except at paranet, I think he'd been booted by then)



[edit on 24-1-2010 by Exuberant1]



posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 03:45 AM
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Geeze Ex does that make you a piece of disinfo trash



Ocker



posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by ocker
reply to post by Exuberant1
 


Geeze Ex does that make you a piece of disinfo trash




You are too if you agree with me.


I always fancied you for an agent of the secret government....




Edit:

Here is another of my Kandinsky-inspired modern Art pieces on Cooper:




He was a man before his time...




[edit on 24-1-2010 by Exuberant1]



posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Lillydale
reply to post by zatara
 


Good job in completely ignoring the fact that he threatened to open fire on authorities. You do not have to speculate as to all the reasons it would not make sense when he gave us all the answer himself. Keep up the delusion though.


Thanks,.....I like you too. Here we go again...who is doing the speculating here? Were you there when it happened? Think before you turn your knickers in twist.



posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by zatara
Why not use common sence and ask yourself why Bill Cooper would open fire on the police? He was a smart man and aware of his situation with the government and what they can do to turn things in their favour.

Was Bill Cooper suicidal....depressive....or even drunk? He knew that shooting at cops would give them a reason to take him out....as paranoid as he was.


You ignore the fact Cooper stated on his website that any attempt to serve a warrant would be met with armed resistance. Why do the Cooper fans continually ignore this and act surprised that he shot a cop? Why do you ignore this and pretend it was out of character for him? Why do you ignore this and try to tell us he was set up?

It's delusion and desperation.



posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by zatara
Thanks,.....I like you too. Here we go again...who is doing the speculating here? Were you there when it happened? Think before you turn your knickers in twist.


It is not speculation. It has nothing to do with what Cooper said the day he was shot. He stated on his website and other venues that any attempt to serve a warrant would be met with armed force.

Again, why do you continue to ignore this? It is very telling.



posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
Edit: I think it was when he tried it with O.H. KRILL, that BS was first called on that line. (Except at paranet, I think he'd been booted by then)


You're right. He tried claiming he had seen the so-called OH Krill documents, invented by John Lear and company, while working at Naval Intelligence. Lear called Cooper on this and Cooper accused him of being a disinfo agent. Score one for Cooper, he managed to actually get something right, sort of.

Cooper claimed to have seen a lot of things while working for the Navy, stuff that makes little sense for the Navy to have. Why would the Navy have access to who really killed JFK? I'd like to see the Cooper buffoons explain that one.



posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by zatara

Originally posted by Lillydale
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Good job in completely ignoring the fact that he threatened to open fire on authorities. You do not have to speculate as to all the reasons it would not make sense when he gave us all the answer himself. Keep up the delusion though.


Thanks,.....I like you too. Here we go again...who is doing the speculating here? Were you there when it happened? Think before you turn your knickers in twist.


YOU! You are still the one doing the speculating. I merely mentioned something that DID happen and can be confirmed. You ignored it because it might poke a hole in your fantasy. Sorry pal but calling my recitation of a fact "speculation" is wonderful demonstration in your lack of ability to listen to any side other than your own.



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 12:59 AM
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This is surprisingly ridiculous; never thought I would see people bashing on Bill Cooper? Wow. This is ATS right? Bill simply put out information to the public whether they were right or wrong, crazy or not JUST like all the strange wacky stories here on ATS.

I remember watching some videos of him presenting information about secret governments and ufo's. When a lady got up and rejected his stories he said (forgive me I forgot the exact quote) "I don't expect any of you to believe what I'm saying to be the truth." He continues on and said something along the line of "read about everything, listen to everyone, but believe nothing unless you can prove it with your own research." To me that is no doubt a very sincere response and tells a great deal about his character.

What makes me sick is seeing immature labeling those who's arguing for Bill "Bill Cooper worshiper" "Cooper's idiots" "Cooper's fanboys". To me you have no base in debating anything and only discrediting yourself.

Lillydale, I believe you have enough intellectual capacity to do your own research on Bill Cooper to come to your own conclusion, if you want that is.. my intuition tells me you don't.



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 01:02 AM
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Were you an adult during the late 1980s to early 1990s? (When Cooper was spewing his BS)

I just want to know if you are coming late to the game. Maybe you haven't heard that the man was a liar and has been debunked thoroughly.


[edit on 26-1-2010 by Exuberant1]



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 01:19 AM
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TPTB First discredit you, make you out as a "nutjob" and "dangerous" than do with you what they want because they know nobody will defend or care what happens to you.

Question: William Cooper was on his own property was he not? Hello, he didn't go to the police they came to him.

Read "Dark Rivers Of The Heart" by Dean Koontz.

The media can make you out to be the most vile mf when in reality you're not. In Bill Coopers case, it appears he was a hot . and wouldn't take any c$%# from anyone.

This link is a free ebook, Bill Cooper's legacy. www....(nolink)/?mnhltmmyzqn

It's a insightful book.

Personally I feel Bill Cooper knew too much, was set up and executed.



Details are still sketchy on what caused the Cooper shootout on November 5, 2001, but a fax sent from the Apache County Sheriff's office sheds some more light on the subject. William Cooper was fatally wounded during a late night gunfight. Contrary to what was reported earlier, it was not a SWAT raid, but a simple confrontation between police and Cooper. One Apache County deputy, Robert Martinez was critically wounded in the exchange. Here's what we know so far:

According to the Sheriff's report, several deputies were positioned outside the Cooper residence to serve a warrant for Aggravated Assault and two counts of endangerment. Cooper had stated numerous times in the past that he would not surrender to law enforcement via his website and shortwave radio. Obviously, law enforcement took him seriously. The showdown began at approximately 12:15 pm local time.

After leaving his residence in his vehicle, the report states that Cooper confronted plain clothed deputies a short distance away. "As Cooper drove back to his residence, deputies attempted to stop him using a fully marked patrol vehicle to block the driveway. Cooper refused to stop or comply with verbal orders by the deputies", according to the report.

Cooper then drove around the patrol car to evade the arrest, and the report stated that he tried to run over one of the deputies en route back to his residence. Cooper was then followed a short distance to his residence where this time he was confronted by uniformed deputies. "After refusing once again to comply with the deputies orders, Cooper exited his vehicle and began running toward the house, firing shots with a handgun toward the deputies", the report said. No where in the report did it mention that Cooper only had one leg - the other lost in combat long ago. Cooper died on the scene.

When Deputy Martinez took a . shot, officers returned fire, the report said. According to the Sheriff's office, "the surgery on Martinez went well" , but the condition is still critical. There was a positive history written up about Martinez in the report, but nothing positive about Cooper, of course.

Cooper had made it known that he would take action against law enforcement from years back stating, "trespassers will be shot on discovery." He also denied violating any laws during that period as well. Cooper has a history of harassing and threatening local residents with deadly force, according to the report. He was recently charge with aggravated assault and endangerment, as well as wanted by the U.S. Marshall's Service on unrelated felony charges. Cooper had spent the last month challenging the government's claims about what caused the destruction of the World Trade Center on September 11.
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...


If you reveal too much valuable information and that information messes with TPTB you end up dead..............research



[edit on 26-1-2010 by ofhumandescent]



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 01:33 AM
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The media can indeed villify people. It's a sad modern fact. Fortunately, existing friends and acquaintances of that person can use the media to express their feelings too. Even moreso with the internet. In Cooper's case, they also have nothing positive to say.

ATS members often suffer from what I call 'Russian Doll Syndrome.' They always think there's more underneath the surface. Sometimes a person is just what they appear to be. As famous crazy Freud said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 01:45 AM
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I want two boxes of Popeye's butterfly shrimp. That's some good lovin.......



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by innocenttdreams
Lillydale, I believe you have enough intellectual capacity to do your own research on Bill Cooper to come to your own conclusion, if you want that is.. my intuition tells me you don't.


LOL. What???? I have. Did you read anything other than the thread title before bothering to post? I am not sure how you missed all that but go back to the beginning of the thread and this time, READ the posts within it. Comment again when you get done and perhaps you can make some sense...or you can leave my name out of it if you have nothing useful to add.



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
I just want to know if you are coming late to the game. Maybe you haven't heard that the man was a liar and has been debunked thoroughly.


Are you even playing the right game?

William Cooper helped me quite a bit. Nobody can say Cooper was worthless.
Maybe what you think is a lie is simply something said in terms you can't understand. I think Cooper knew even more than he let on. I think some people were afraid of him.



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
TPTB First discredit you, make you out as a "nutjob" and "dangerous" than do with you what they want because they know nobody will defend or care what happens to you...


What the hell are you babbling about? The "media" did not care about Cooper one bit. The only people he knew about him were inside the UFO and conspiracy communities. You continuously claim that Cooper was somehow discredited by the "powers-that-be" when it was Cooper himself, through his actions, that discredited him. You claim he was set-up and executed when the very text you quote shows he did exactly what he said he was going to do.

What sort of delusion are you living in?


Originally posted by ofhumandescent
Question: William Cooper was on his own property was he not? Hello, he didn't go to the police they came to him.


Being on your own property does not grant you some sort of legal immunity. You are still subject to the law.



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by Cabaret Voltaire
William Cooper helped me quite a bit.


Oh, this should be good. Please, indulge us...


Originally posted by Cabaret Voltaire
I think some people were afraid of him.


Cooper was a small man in life and no danger to anyone except for those in his immediate presence. He is far more frightening in death, not for his actions or rhetoric but for the minds he attracts. These people are all too willing to accept his words, accepting them at face value no matter any contradictions. These people are all too willing to ignore, forgive and justify his actions, however heinous. They are willing to suffer through any rationalization so that Cooper is right in their eyes. All this for no other reason than he was saying what they want to hear.



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