Originally posted by equistar
[edit on 29-1-2010 by equistar]
E - Why did you say this?
Z - But you insist on everyone changing the existing "covenant" because you don't like it. Earlier you stated if you don't like it, move.
Z - I said because that is what you want. You want to interpret the Constitution to fit your prejudices, and intolerance.
E - I don't want to change the Constitution, Progressives do. Progressives want a federal government that override state laws. Take for example
marijuana laws in CA, the federal government wants to criminalize someone for doing something that is legal in their own state. The citizens of that
state voted for personal possession, for medicinal marijuana, Federal government has no jurisdiction on that ruling, it is unconstitutional for them
to arrest people. for that reason.
Z - Glad you picked that particular example. Has any President beside Obama ordered the DEA, not to interfere with California Marijuana Legislation?
Z - Progressive = good
Z - Recessive = bad
E - If people of a state decide they do not want a federal healthcare system applied to their state they have that right and if the federal government
says screw you you have to do as we say because we know what's best for all the stupid people then that is unconstitutional.
Z - Right, and when your less than progressives get sick, who pays? Why me of course. I saw on TV today some States asking for help from the FED due
to a snow storm. Who pays? Me. My State has no Snow problems, we have infrastructure to deal with it. But I don't mind paying because all the
Conservatives in those States are Americans, and no matter how misguided they are, the FED will come to their aid, like it's supposed to.
E - Bring me back to a time where there was no Federal Reserve, no fractional banking, where everyone knew the President was there to secure borders
and defend the nation not become it's nanny. The smaller the government the easier the people can control the corruption.
Z - "I wish I was in Dixie!"
E - Make your statist type of government work in just one state and then maybe I'll think about it in mine.
Z - Name one culture that has survived based on your ideology. I asked you this before, why are you not answering? My version works pretty well in
E - I'm not the one trying to change the Consttution, you are, especially when you boast about limited freedom to oppress me, how the hell is that
liberty for all?
Z - You don't understand freedom. I'm not free to oppress you. I like that because you would oppress me if you could. You want to change the meaning
not the text. But of course, to get you back to the good ole days, we'd have to eliminate a few amendments don't you think?