Quake Watch 2010

reply to post by Roald

Take a deep breath: Believe it or not, scientists are not always right. We really put them up on a pedestal, though, don't we? We quote scientists as experts, buy things if they're "scientifically proven" to work better.

Do we? I certainly don't. Half of them have not got a clue what they are doing and most of the other half spend their time quoting endless references to the other half and call these exercises in copying 'scientific papers'. Toilet papers most of them. One minute the so called 'experts' tell us one thing, and then they change their mind and tell us something else. Possibly 10% are genuine scientists who actually do make discoveries. The rest should be pensioned off because frankly we would not miss them.


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reply to post by PuterMan


Thanks for the mid-day chuckle. Actually, I'm rolling and my eyes are tearing!! How right you are - must have missed that sentence earlier. I don't do so well before coffee. Anyway, Thanks for that as I sit here doing Dreaded Policy's looking at a Very Yellow Map.

[edit on 10-3-2010 by Anmarie96]

I was looking for something else and came across This on earthquake depths.

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Excellent tips, posted in another thread by "Marshmallow_snake" thought it would get a lot of attention here....


EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: "TRIANGLE OF LIFE"

My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.

I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries...

I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.

The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide under something.

Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the "triangle of life".
The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the "triangles" you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building.

TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY

1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.
2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake... It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.
3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.
4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on The back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.
6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!
7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads - horribly mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.
8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked.
9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway... The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.
10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.

Spread the word and save someone's life... The Entire world is experiencing natural calamities so be prepared!

"We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly".

In 1996 we made a film, which proved my survival methodology to be correct. The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul, University of Istanbul Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten mannequins did "duck and cover," and ten mannequins I used in my "triangle of life" survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we crawled through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the results. The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under directly observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and cover.

There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my method of the "triangle of life." This film has been seen by millions of viewers on television in Turkeyand the rest of Europe, and it was seen in the USA ,

reply to post by freetree64


I have read this article before. At first it made sense to me and I almost posted it in another thread. Then after thinking on it and having questions, I of course surfed the web on the theory. Appears to me that this is not the safest method. I am having computer problems at the moment so google him and read the results.

en.wikipedia.org...
science.howstuffworks.com...
www.earthquakesolutions.com...

[edit on 10-3-2010 by Anmarie96]

let me get this in before I get cut off again -

you never really know where the pocket would be (triangle) - i thought about what he said for days and days after getting e-mailed to me - you never know where the pocket will be - there will always be pockets but they are not predictable at all in imo - imo he used those pockets that occure at random spots to promote him self = bad magic

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reply to post by freetree64


Excellent post. I read it to my con. I'm not in an earthquake prone area, but I will pass it on to friends in Haiti and Chile

reply to post by zachi


Thanks, and glad to help. I also wanted to put this seismo image up from the quake that hit in Northern California earlier I believe it was a 3.5 or so, it sure is recording in what seems to be an unusual fashion, unless i'm wrong, any thoughts everyone...

quake.usgs.gov...

Magnitude 3.0 - SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL, CALIFORNIA
2010 March 11 05:30:10 UTC

Location
34.415°N, 119.971°W

Depth
2.7 km (1.7 miles)

Distances
10 km (6 miles) W (270°) from Isla Vista, CA
15 km (9 miles) W (259°) from Goleta, CA
24 km (15 miles) SSE (154°) from Santa Ynez, CA
25 km (15 miles) W (268°) from downtown Santa Barbara, CA
164 km (102 miles) WNW (285°) from Los Angeles Civic Center, CA

earthquake.usgs.gov...

Was three in that area today

3.0 2010/03/11 05:30:10 34.415 -119.971 2.7 SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL, CALIFORNIA

2.6 2010/03/11 03:29:52 34.364 -120.007 5.5 SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL, CALIFORNIA

3.5 2010/03/11 01:39:38 33.247 -116.707 2.7 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

Roughly about 2 hours apart

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USGS downgraded this to a 5.6

NEW
Magnitude 5.6 - SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION
2010 March 11 06:22:19 UTC

Location
57.290°S, 28.114°W
Depth
309.1 km (192.1 miles)

Distances
85 km (50 miles) SW of Visokoi Island, South Sandwich Islands
215 km (130 miles) NNW of Bristol Island, South Sandwich Islands
625 km (385 miles) SE of Grytviken, South Georgia
3405 km (2120 miles) SSE of BUENOS AIRES, Argentina

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Magnitude 5.8 - SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION
2010 March 11 06:22:02 UTC

Magnitude
5.8 (Preliminary magnitude — update expected within 15 minutes)

Location
57.026°S, 27.846°W

Depth
120 km (74.6 miles) set by location program

Distances
50 km (31 miles) SW (226°) from Visokoi Island, South Sandwich Islands
233 km (145 miles) NNW (340°) from Bristol Island, South Sandwich Islands
2013 km (1251 miles) ESE (119°) from STANLEY, Falkland Islands
2728 km (1695 miles) ESE (116°) from Punta Arenas, Chile

earthquake.usgs.gov...

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reply to post by berkeleygal


Yeah where the hell are the sandwich islands? That seems to be an unusual location for a quake.

reply to post by ExPostFacto

Way the heck down below Africa!

"Earthquakes in diverse places"

reply to post by berkeleygal


It got me perked up as there is a prediction of an earthquake in antartica that will kill someone. Then I see this 5.6 and wonder hmmm could that prediction not be so crazy anymore.

reply to post by ExPostFacto


Who predicted that?

Here on ATS?

spooky music starts playing...

Magnitude 4.6 - NICARAGUA
2010 March 11 06:57:20 UTC

Location
12.191°N, 86.873°W

Depth
138.5 km (86.1 miles)

Distances
25 km (15 miles) S of Leon, Nicaragua
55 km (35 miles) SE of Chinandega, Nicaragua
65 km (40 miles) W of MANAGUA, Nicaragua
1545 km (960 miles) ESE of MEXICO CITY, D.F., Mexico

Looky here

Minor quake in Burma Sai Zom Seng Mizzima Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:44 EST Chiang Mai - There was a tremor in Burma's new jungle capital city of Naypyitaw last Friday afternoon following a minor earthquake. There were no damages, according to officials of the Meteorology department. "There was an earthquake but we have not released a statement," an official of the Meteorology department in Naypyitaw told Mizzima. Other government officials in Naypyitaw, when contacted, said they felt the quake though there were no damages. The Meteorology department refused to provide further details on the quake.

www.sott.net...

HMMMM

It's disconcertingly quiet from USGS

I wonder if the Sandwich Islands one could be a product of the movement of the south American continent after Chili quake.
The island appear to be near a plate boundary connecting Antartica with S. America.
earthquake.usgs.gov...
earthquake.usgs.gov... rica.php
"The South Sandwich Trench is a deep arcuate trench in the South Atlantic Ocean lying 100 km to the east of the South Sandwich Islands. The trench is produced by the subduction of the southernmost portion of the South American Plate beneath the small South Sandwich Plate. The South Sandwich Islands constitute a volcanic island arc which results from this active subduction." (en.wikipedia.org...)

reply to post by ExPostFacto

Not really a strange place. Subduction zone and many active or recently active volcanoes. (Edit: sorry Zenius did spot your posting) Freezing bloody cold though. Much contested in the past between Argentina and Britain. Argentina had a naval base on the most southerly for a while until the Brits sent the navy in and removed them.

The past year's quakes.

Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
11/03/2010 06:22:19,-57.2896,-28.1144,5.60,309.10,South Sandwich Islands region
28/02/2010 16:13:49,-58.2420,-8.0048,5.40,35.00,east of the South Sandwich Islands
11/02/2010 01:18:52,-57.4882,-25.6885,5.00,66.40,South Sandwich Islands region
08/02/2010 12:08:31,-56.1583,-24.5203,5.10,35.00,South Sandwich Islands region
03/02/2010 02:18:26,-58.9531,-25.6948,5.20,35.00,South Sandwich Islands region
30/01/2010 04:28:22,-56.0039,-27.8545,4.90,102.30,South Sandwich Islands region
18/01/2010 14:27:31,-55.9960,-27.6983,4.90,38.10,South Sandwich Islands region
05/01/2010 04:55:39,-58.1734,-14.6891,6.70,10.00,east of the South Sandwich Islands
31/12/2009 07:59:20,-55.6312,-27.1196,4.90,10.10,South Sandwich Islands region
24/12/2009 22:04:53,-55.4166,-26.7578,5.30,21.00,South Sandwich Islands region
17/12/2009 22:57:29,-55.4694,-26.8899,5.00,29.20,South Sandwich Islands region
16/12/2009 03:40:27,-55.4753,-26.9586,5.50,31.90,South Sandwich Islands region
05/12/2009 00:20:07,-56.1002,-27.6557,5.00,76.60,South Sandwich Islands region
02/12/2009 23:13:58,-56.1264,-26.7219,5.40,35.00,South Sandwich Islands region
03/11/2009 11:30:05,-56.9181,-24.9815,5.40,10.00,South Sandwich Islands region
04/10/2009 22:06:01,-57.6181,-25.3452,4.90,35.00,South Sandwich Islands region
15/08/2009 21:14:18,-56.1409,-27.5826,5.00,77.60,South Sandwich Islands region
12/08/2009 14:50:15,-57.6290,-25.3062,5.50,38.20,South Sandwich Islands region
04/08/2009 21:08:33,-56.0606,-27.5956,4.10,133.60,South Sandwich Islands region
03/08/2009 23:00:34,-56.4756,-25.5471,4.80,23.60,South Sandwich Islands region
15/06/2009 03:41:27,-59.2977,-26.1911,5.10,42.40,South Sandwich Islands region
14/06/2009 22:10:03,-56.1037,-27.7761,5.00,18.90,South Sandwich Islands region
14/06/2009 20:25:15,-58.9396,-25.1140,5.50,10.00,South Sandwich Islands region
09/06/2009 15:15:35,-56.2603,-26.5257,5.20,90.40,South Sandwich Islands region
30/05/2009 06:48:00,-60.7917,-26.4041,5.50,35.00,South Sandwich Islands region
28/05/2009 21:07:47,-55.8734,-28.1826,5.30,97.30,South Sandwich Islands region
15/05/2009 06:12:09,-56.1004,-27.0602,4.70,127.40,South Sandwich Islands region
13/05/2009 23:02:45,-55.9001,-26.8918,5.30,42.70,South Sandwich Islands region
05/05/2009 09:05:23,-56.3435,-26.4964,5.10,35.00,South Sandwich Islands region
05/05/2009 06:16:07,-58.6943,-25.1345,5.10,35.00,South Sandwich Islands region
02/05/2009 22:27:07,-58.9711,-25.5578,4.80,45.80,South Sandwich Islands region
27/04/2009 04:34:42,-56.3686,-26.8500,5.00,10.00,South Sandwich Islands region
16/04/2009 14:57:06,-60.1866,-26.8448,6.70,20.00,South Sandwich Islands region
12/04/2009 12:37:14,-56.1871,-27.1499,4.90,119.90,South Sandwich Islands region
11/04/2009 17:14:36,-59.6212,-26.2690,5.10,65.10,South Sandwich Islands region
04/04/2009 18:39:17,-56.0019,-27.7349,5.50,87.30,South Sandwich Islands region
03/04/2009 09:11:45,-59.5481,-26.1107,5.10,10.00,South Sandwich Islands region
20/03/2009 16:01:17,-58.7156,-24.8759,5.10,47.30,South Sandwich Islands region
12/03/2009 05:18:08,-60.7596,-23.8701,5.20,10.00,South Sandwich Islands region
03/03/2009 06:05:03,-56.2987,-27.0455,5.20,133.90,South Sandwich Islands region
28/02/2009 14:33:06,-60.3943,-24.8633,6.30,10.00,South Sandwich Islands region

It is an interesting area (if you like that sort of thing)


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Magnitude 5.1 TONGA


Date-Time

* Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 12:31:26 UTC
* Friday, March 12, 2010 at 01:31:26 AM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 15.349°S, 173.303°W
Depth 32.8 km (20.4 miles)
Region TONGA
Distances 80 km (50 miles) NE of Hihifo, Tonga
240 km (150 miles) SW of APIA, Samoa
675 km (420 miles) NNE of NUKU'ALOFA, Tonga
2655 km (1650 miles) NNE of Auckland, New Zealand

7.2 Libertador General Bernardo O higgins Chile

reply to post by fromtheheart66

You beat me to it! My Firefox browser nearly shook itself to bits!

Okay, here's the data from USGS:

Magnitude 7.2 - LIBERTADOR O'HIGGINS, CHILE
2010 March 11 14:39:48 UTC

Versión en Español

* Details
* Summary
* Maps
* Scientific & Technical
* Tsunami

Earthquake Details
Magnitude 7.2
Date-Time

* Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 14:39:48 UTC
* Thursday, March 11, 2010 at 11:39:48 AM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 34.290°S, 71.950°W
Depth 35 km (21.7 miles) set by location program
Region LIBERTADOR O'HIGGINS, CHILE
Distances 110 km (70 miles) W of Rancagua, Chile
130 km (80 miles) NNW of Talca, Chile
140 km (90 miles) SSW of Valparaiso, Chile
150 km (95 miles) SW of SANTIAGO, Chile
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 12.5 km (7.8 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST= 54, Nph= 54, Dmin=597.7 km, Rmss=1.13 sec, Gp= 72°,
M-type=teleseismic moment magnitude (Mw), Version=7
Source

* USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID us2010tsa6

Link here.

Not too uncommon to get a very large aftershock around a week a two after the main quake. Let's hope this one doesn't take any more lives.

Mike


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