Originally posted by Adono86Let’s get one thing straight, it’s coming. It is inevitable given the current predicament of society on
this planet. The final war is coming and this time there is no room for error and defeat would signal the end.
To start, I do not agree with this bleak assessment that the final war is coming. Final wars have been spoken about for centuries and how many times
have members on this board posted about the coming final war. I would certainly agree that we are looking at times where hard decisions will have to
The battlefield won’t be in our cities it will be in the middle east.
Based on events in the US recently, it will not just be the Middle East. Countries in the West as you call them have been subject to attack by
radical Muslin elements.
Everyone on here has been saying Israel will attack Iran. They won’t, the U.S and Europe will attack Iran and Israel will deal with Lebanon
and Syria. This attack is coming it’s just not happening until it’s all ready giving the West the best possible chance of winning the war. To do
this you need staging bases for Air, Land and Sea.
So what is your basis for this assertion? Nothing I have seen indicated that the US and Europe will launch an open attack on Iran. The US is too
heavily involved in Iraq and Afghanistan, same with the UK. The only major elements of these two countries that could be used would be the navy and
air force, as these are less committed to the actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. A naval and air campaign will not be enough to subdue Iran and control
the country. Even, if the opposition in Iran does come to the fore, it will not be enough to control the country. This will require boots on the
ground. And just how much support do you think that Europe will give? The US and UK have found it difficult to get serious support for the troop
surge in Afghanistan, a campaign that has hit not only The US and UK, but Spain, and who knows that the French have stopped but not declared to the
rest of the world.
If we take your argument that the West will not attack until the best possible chance for victory, then we are looking at 12 months.
Iran is surrounded and with land and air units on either side (Iraq and Afghanistan) There is just one thing missing. Naval support. True Iraq
has a coast but it is small and too vulnerable from Iran so now we’re hearing about Yemen. Yemen is the key here and whilst no doubt we will be told
that were going in to help them out but look at the strategic location of Yemen. You have a staging base for a fleet that can launch attacks all over
Iran and is well away from them and therefore the west will have total superiority with the four main strengths in war. Land, Air, Sea and Tactical
Naval support is far from the issue here. With the US carrier fleet, there is no need to have close land based naval support. Of course, the further
away the carrier is, the less time in country, but with refuelling, assets can be kept available. And why does Naval support need to come from
carriers? These assets can be launched and serviced from ground bases just as easily as carriers, so have access to a coast for Naval support is not
a precondition for an attack on Iran.
And if we go back to your assertion that Israel will deal with Lebanon and Syria, why the need to tactical nukes to deal with Iran. If the US wanted
to use tactical nukes, why does it need Israel? And do you believe that Israel will use its tactical nukes with out the expression permission of the
This was is not going to start until the West is ready. The one thing that they all know when that first shot is fired is that all hell will
break loose and Russia and China will most likely get involved. If they don’t then they sign their own death warrants as an ideology. Whoever wins
this war goes onto space exploration due to having the resources to do so. Defeat is not an option. The U.S already have bases all over the middle
east apart from in Syria, Lebanon and Iran but we need some real muscle and more bases because once the U.S and its allies have the area under control
then it’s all about keeping hold of them.
So this attack on the Middle East is to ensure that the West has the resources to go into space? We have the resources to expand our presence in
Space, if we stopped spending on military campaigns around the world. How much do you think the US and UK have spent on its actions in the Middle
East? More than enough to fund a major expansion in space.
And why would Russia and China getting involved if the West attacks Iran? The West already has bases on Russia’s borders. Russia is more
interested in maintaining its power as a regional power, and today, the US is still the only global military superpower, and if Russia stepped up to
take the West on, I guess there are peoples still within Russia who might use this as an opportunity to rise up and declare their independence from
Russia, so I do not see Russia taking up arms. Did the US attack the USSR directly when they invaded Afghanistan? So why would Russia attack to
defend Iran? And more importantly, can Russia make a difference except with e nuclear attack?
And why would China get involved directly? Or are you suggesting that China’s involvement is indirect?
Saudi Arabia can supply the world with petroleum along with Venezuela for the next 50 years or so but America and its allies needs the oil in
Iraq, Iran and the Caspian sea. Russia and China have enough to last themselves for a while and so does America but the last thing this world needs is
another key player coming onto the world stage... the last thing the powers that be need is an Islamic super power. That is Iran.
So this all about stopping Iran becoming an Islamic super power? The US and The West has years of experience in destabilising countries and there is
an active opposition movement in Iran. One factor that you seem to have missed. Will the other countries in the region allow Iran to become a
regional superpower? With Saudi Arabia just sit back? I think not, and The West has been supporting Saudi Arabia as a balance to Iran and I do not
see that balance being upset.