Airport Full Body Scanners destroy DNA, page 4

reply to post by Elen__

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Some of that made my brain go-BOING!

But, one thing that I might have gleaned from this, do you think it could be used to categorize or read peoples DNA?

Is this another totally different usage possibility?

Or am I getting totally paranoid?

reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss

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G'day again IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The Rapiscan & ProVision airport screening systems do not utilise THz detection technology.

The Rapiscan & ProVision airport screening systems do utilise:

"Passive millimeter wave imaging".

www.rapiscansystems.com...

The important word to note here is "passive".....it means the system does not emit radiation. Instead, it senses radiation that is emitted naturally from the body.

As written by Magdy Attia, Ph.D. James B. Duke Distinguished Professor
Chair, Computer Science & Engineering Department Director, Technology Center:

Why Passive Millimeter-Wave Imaging?
All Natural objects whose temperatures are above absolute zero emit passive millimeter-wave radiation.
Millimeter-waves are much more effective (Lower attenuation) than infrared in poor weather conditions such as fog, clouds, snow, millimeter-waves have natural appearances.
The amount of radiation emitted in the millimeter-wave range is 108 times smaller than the amount emitted in the infrared range.

www.orau.org...

The "modesty" aspect of the Rapiscan system is covered off as follows:

Rapiscan Systems’ Graphical User Interface (GUI) is an easy to understand tool - operators can identify hidden objects without confusion or delay. With training, a WaveScan 200 user can identify and locate hidden objects in realtime by observing event icons and detection boxes on a fullmotion video images. Each event’s video and passive millimeter
wave images are digitally archived for later review, analysis, or videntiary
use. The JPEG images stored are millimeter wave images with no anatomical detail, thereby addressing privacy concerns.

www.rapiscansystems.com...

Here is a very simple schematic of a passive mm scanning system:



www.maspro.co.jp...

Conclusion:

This system is not a health risk - it is a passive system.

Regarding your questions about THx screening, I will have a look at that now from points of view of regulatory & safety.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 2-1-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by Elen__

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Some of that made my brain go-BOING!

But, one thing that I might have gleaned from this, do you think it could be used to categorize or read peoples DNA?

Is this another totally different usage possibility?

Or am I getting totally paranoid?

G'day endisnighe

I don't believe that would be possible.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not.

reply to post by Elen__

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Thank you for posting that article title & the very interesting extract, Elen.

www.er.doe.gov...

I have read further into this & I note the following:

The development of THz sources, including table-top laser-based sources as well as synchrotrons and FELs, with extremely high THz field amplitudes and with considerable control over the field temporal profile are underway.
These sources will enable control over motions of molecules and ions, including control over collective structure and dynamics, as well as electronic responses.
These features enable THz excitation of material responses whose temporal evolution may be probed with additional THz pulses or with light at other wavelengths.
Thus nonlinear spectroscopy will be conducted using THz excitation pulses. Initial efforts are under way, with most of the early results coming from the physics community studying systems such as Rydberg states of isolated atoms and intersubband transitions in semiconductor quantum wells or quantum dots.

When the author states that synchrotron, FEL (free electron laser), etc... sources will be required to achieve the "brightness" (or "power") required for this type of hypothetical manipulation, this means that sources trillions of times "brighter" (or more more "powerful") than airport scanning systems will be required for this.

Synchrotrons & FEL's costs billions of dollars each & their size makes it slightly impractical to use for screening.

The mention of "table top" systems is noteworthy, in case you are thinking that is a "way in" for airport screening applications. I know a lot about this. For quite some time, a medical (diagnostic & therapautic) & scientific "holy grail" has been to develop a "table top" system that can achieve the "brightness" (or "power") levels of a synchrotron or FEL. There are huge technical problems associated with this. The most recent timelines I have seen discussed in this area are 5-6 years as a minimum. The latest cost estimates I have seen are in the US$5,000,000 - US$10,000,000 range per device & there is certainly no guarantee it will work properly.

Here's 2 pictures of the Australian Synchrotron, which does some of the most advanced medical synchrotron imaging in the world:

www.synchrotron.org.au...

www.synchrotron.org.au...





Here's a picture of a free electron laser (the largest one's are hundreds of meters long, the largest one being 2 kilometers long!):



Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


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reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss

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Well... they are starting them up in New Jersey now.
Cheap gas sure, but don't try and reproduce....???

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
reply to post by PreyBird

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Dear G, please actually attempt to refute the cited data by citing other data that contradicts it. Or are you being sarcastic?

But no data has been presented that terahertz is dangerous only a statement saying it is. If somebody stated that 10 foot bright green aliens live on the dark side of the moon and somebody refutes that does the one refuting have to provide evidence??!!??!!!??? That's what you are saying basically asking of "G"

reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss

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G'day IgnoranceIsntBlisss

As I promised, today I've made some enquiries regarding the regulatory & safety info pertaining to these THz & mm wave detection devices.

I am hoping to receive some info during the next day or two.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by PreyBird

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say what?

got anythin' other to say than: your wrong lololololol. im a freemason im also in on all the world secrets lololololololol. your all screwed lolololololol. Im an expert I read the davinci code lololololol.

Even though freemasonry is a catalyst, most members of the satantic cult do not even realise who they work for or the purpose of the task. Even high ranked illuminati would think twice if they knew the real outcome of what they were involved in. all Day long at the lodge, im sure your lodgemasters talk about how crazy conspiracy theorists are and show you all these books or talks and what the "Truth" is. This are not even close to what they seem. Read "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison with an open mind and you might learn something. This will not reveal all I am sure, I have only partially read this book. But apparently John Robison was a high ranking Mason or Bavarian Illuminati. Im sure you know of him... plz respond to this or message me, I need a masonic insider as a friend! So I can get some nice scoops and whats to be

[edit on 4-1-2010 by KilluminatisRex]

Originally posted by MR BOBIts not like X-rays were invented, then a year later they are used on everyone to check their bones...

You're right. But a few years later, one of its first uses was a floor-standing device that you stood on with your feet going into a slot, and you could "see" the bones in your feet by looking through a viewfinder.

Unbeknown to the viewer, their head was getting blasted with an insanely high dosage of the rays, and lots of shoe salespeople working in stores with these machines became ill.

www.orau.org...
www.museumofquackery.com...

Human kind always has the best intentions.

[edit on 4-1-2010 by TheUnCola]

reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss

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Ahh finally, I've been reading in another forum here about the body scanners as well but no-one seems to care about the damage done by these things, only about wether someone might see them naked!
it's scary as hell if you ask me and I have to wonder about what would happen to an unborn baby for a start? Or say someone with heart or kidney troubles, might just be the straw that broke the camels back going through one of these things. I wonder if maybe these scanners will be link somehow into another form of tech say those nasty chips that they are coming out with since as I understand it in practice these scanners can't read very far into the body, which kind of makes them a waste of time to say the lest!

they said these thing were safe too...
but that was before they realised peoples' hair was falling out because they were calibrated by dingbats.

Experts: CT Scans Linked To Radiation Overdoses

ATLANTA -- CT scans can be a lifesaving tool, but they also can cause radiation overdoses. Experts say it’s happening more and more at hospitals across the country and perhaps in Georgia. Miscalibrated machines or operator error is exposing patients to dangerous doses of radiation.

www.wsbtv.com...

and who is calibrating and maintaining the machines that they said couldn't store nudie pix of children, but can, and do store the pix that other countries have determined to be kiddy porn?

If anyone can trust them after they have already been caught lying about child porn no less...

Then their is the story of the screener, who after being teased about his wee wee wee, punched his supervisor in the mellon...
I wonder what they think of the pix of your wife and kids?
Would you sock 'em if you knew?

Screener charged in attack over genitalia jokes
Miami » A Miami International Airport federal security screener has been Arrested for allegedly using an expandable Police baton to beat up a co-worker.
The source of their conflict, Police say: daily ribbing about the size of the screener's Genitalia.
Screener Rolando Negrin's private body parts were observed by his Transportation Security Administration colleagues conducting training on the Airport's full-body imaging

celebrifi.com...

Like aJ says "don't take my word for it do your own research..."
which is why he is the number one internet radio show.



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